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Title: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
Got my computer back up and running but when I go to run the game it goes to black screen . Every thing runs fine , video's and so on but it well not run any game . When this happens the PC is still running but just the monitor goes to black screen . Any idea's . Thanks <S>
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Skuzzy on August 15, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Were you sure to install all the native motherboard, sound, and video card drivers?

Running DXDIAG will tell you if something is missing.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 11:08:43 AM
I think so Skuzzy . How do I run DXDIAG been a long time .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Skuzzy on August 15, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
Start->Run->DXDIAG
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 11:29:13 AM
It's telling me no problems found . I just can't figure this out .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: The Fugitive on August 15, 2014, 11:34:39 AM
After you run it there is a button to save the information.  Save to your desktop..... it will save as a text file. Copy and paste the first  third of the report here, up to and including Sound Devices.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
Thanks men . here you go .

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/15/2014, 11:23:54
       Machine name: GEORGE-B588286F
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.130704-0421)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/17/11 20:45:13 Ver: 04.06.04
          Processor: AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor            ,  MMX (2 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
             Memory: 3068MB RAM
          Page File: 526MB used, 4426MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce GTS 250
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0615&SUBSYS_059210DE&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0013.2101 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 4011264 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 11015392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4555-11CF-5B7B-9F2503C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0615
        SubSys ID: 0x059210DE
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_18497892&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6378 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 5/24/2011 07:34:04, 6345832 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6378 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 5/24/2011 07:34:04, 6345832 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
-----------
        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4397
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/8/2013 19:55:06, 5376 bytes

Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 11:47:56 AM
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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 05:43:22, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f03
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 05:43:22, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.6311)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.6311)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.6311)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.6311)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 430.1 GB
Total Space: 466.3 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3500630AS

      Drive: H:
 Free Space: 2.3 GB
Total Space: 10.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3500630AS

      Drive: I:
      Model: ATAPI iHAS324   A
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/14/2008 07:00:00, 62976 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B6F&DEV_7023&SUBSYS_70231849&REV_01\4&57875EE&0&0048
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\EtronXHCI.sys, 0.00.0000.0104 (English), 7/28/2011 22:40:55, 64256 bytes

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_81681849&REV_06\4&3252B7A8&0&00AB
   Driver: n/a

Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 11:50:42 AM
ystem Devices
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     Name: Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B6F&DEV_7023&SUBSYS_70231849&REV_01\4&57875EE&0&0048
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\EtronXHCI.sys, 0.00.0000.0104 (English), 7/28/2011 22:40:55, 64256 bytes

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_81681849&REV_06\4&3252B7A8&0&00AB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0615&SUBSYS_059210DE&REV_A2\4&26B22A24&0&0010
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 183296 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\nvdrsdb.bin, 11/23/2013 01:32:38, 1121684 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\CPLInstallerCache\NvCplSetupInt.exe, 1.00.0001.0000 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:32, 77894144 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\license.txt, 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 21898 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:44, 57344 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 11015392 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:22, 4011264 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:24, 2555392 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:24, 17551360 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:36, 7700480 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:36, 2003744 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:36, 2786592 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdata.data, 11/23/2013 01:32:36, 2294284 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvinfo.pb, 11/23/2013 01:32:38, 17018 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:40, 20209664 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvopencl.dll, 6.14.0013.2101 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:40, 6324224 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispco3232101.dll, 2.00.0031.0004 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:36, 1024288 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispgenco3232101.dll, 2.00.0017.0002 (English), 11/23/2013 01:32:38, 893728 bytes

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1605&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C5
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1604&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1603&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1602&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1601&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1600&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C0
   Driver: n/a
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 15, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
Based on a very quick overview and limited knowledge this caught my eye:
Quote
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Your monitor simply may not be able to handle 75Hz in games. Most modern lcd monitors run at 60Hz although there are exceptions. If I understand the rest correctly, you're also using a resolution other than the native one, making me suppose your monitor is of the 4/3 type instead of the widescreen you're using. You either have black blocks above and under the picture or your image is flattened sideways, making people and everything else look very slim. Try the 1600x1200 @ 60Hz in Windows' monitor settings.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 12:09:49 PM
ok Bizman . I do that now brb . I finely get off dial up and now this errrr

EDIT: I don't have that option I got 1360 x 768 next step down . I well try that brb

EDIT again . That setting make's every thing fuzzy looking
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 15, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
Alright, then I misunderstood the MaxRes, although on my rig it shows the native resolution as max. This makes me curious, why I'm asking a couple of measurement questions: How high and wide is your screen inside the bezel? And if you divide the bigger number with the smaller, do you get 1.333 or 1.778?

Anyway, try with the highest resolution with 60Hz if it works.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
Alright, then I misunderstood the MaxRes, although on my rig it shows the native resolution as max. This makes me curious, why I'm asking a couple of measurement questions: How high and wide is your screen inside the bezel? And if you divide the bigger number with the smaller, do you get 1.333 or 1.778?

Anyway, try with the highest resolution with 60Hz if it works.
You have just lost me there . Can not find  the size and the only option I have is the 75Hz .

EDIT: I know it's a 19 inch widescreen and that's about it .

Don't understand why every thing else run's fine . Video's and so on .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 15, 2014, 12:55:03 PM
OK, no need to measure anything, 19" widescreen is the information I was looking for. BTW a ruler or tape measure would have done the trick, nothing more special than that. You should be able to lower the Hz value, though. Have you tried other drivers? Here's the link to the latest ones: http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/340.52/340.52-desktop-winxp-32bit-english.exe (http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/340.52/340.52-desktop-winxp-32bit-english.exe)
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 12:59:48 PM
I put a tape on it . It's 16 x 10 . Not sure about the driver , downloading it now .

EDIT: I thought you was looking for the size in a folder some where .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: FLS on August 15, 2014, 01:01:16 PM
Can you run other games?

If yes and it's an old AH installation try renaming the settings folder to "old settings".

Your DXdiag shows your monitor as 1600x1200 max res which is not a widescreen aspect ratio.
You may want to reinstall your video drivers.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 01:02:58 PM
No , it well not run any game .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 01:04:15 PM
I can still hear the game after it goes black screen but with popping going on .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: FLS on August 15, 2014, 01:11:16 PM
Try Bizman's link. Make sure you have the correct drivers for your video card.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
Ok FLS . Just got it downloaded . wish me luck
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 01:43:25 PM
No joy . Doing the same thing . Black screen .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Skuzzy on August 15, 2014, 01:51:02 PM
Have you tried manually setting the refresh rate to 60, in Windows?  DirectX should honor that.  By default it is set to automatically detect it, which it does not appear to be doing.

Right-click on the Windows desktop, select "Screen Resolution", then click "Advanced Settings".  Select the "Monitor" tab.  You should be able to manually set the resolution there.

What type of cable are you using to connect the monitor to the computer?
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 15, 2014, 01:56:04 PM
After updating the drivers, did you try to set the refresh rate to 60?

Another attempt would be to first uninstall all of the nVidia drivers through Control Panel->Add/remove Programs, reboot and reinstall the latest ones. If still no avail, using some driver cleaner to really get rid of any old drivers might do the trick.

And as Skuzzy asked, cables... Are they well seated, does twisting them change anything, have you removed them lately and accidentally twisted a pin while replugging?
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Have you tried manually setting the refresh rate to 60, in Windows?  DirectX should honor that.  By default it is set to automatically detect it, which it does not appear to be doing.

Right-click on the Windows desktop, select "Screen Resolution", then click "Advanced Settings".  Select the "Monitor" tab.  You should be able to manually set the resolution there.

What type of cable are you using to connect the monitor to the computer?

It well not let me Skuzzy . Not sure about the cable . This system has run before . Fan quit on the video card and I had to replace it . Then I cleaned up the hard drive to get all the crap off I had on it .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 02:00:33 PM
After updating the drivers, did you try to set the refresh rate to 60?

Another attempt would be to first uninstall all of the nVidia drivers through Control Panel->Add/remove Programs, reboot and reinstall the latest ones. If still no avail, using some driver cleaner to really get rid of any old drivers might do the trick.

And as Skuzzy asked, cables... Are they well seated, does twisting them change anything, have you removed them lately and accidentally twisted a pin while replugging?

yes I tried but have not used a driver cleaner .

EDIT: All cables look good .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
Ok , I manage to run the refresh rate to 60 from the NVDIA Panel and it's a black screen .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Skuzzy on August 15, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
It well not let me Skuzzy . Not sure about the cable . This system has run before . Fan quit on the video card and I had to replace it . Then I cleaned up the hard drive to get all the crap off I had on it .

What do you mean, "it will not let me"?  Is the drop down list not available at the panel?

If so, that means Windows has no idea what type of monitor is connected to the computer.  Have you tried going to the monitor manufacturer's WEB site and see if they have an INF (driver file for the monitor) driver for the monitor?
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
What do you mean, "it will not let me"?  Is the drop down list not available at the panel?

If so, that means Windows has no idea what type of monitor is connected to the computer.  Have you tried going to the monitor manufacturer's WEB site and see if they have an INF (driver file for the monitor) driver for the monitor?
Skuzzy I manage to set it through the NVDIA control panel but when I do it goes to black screen .
I well try going to the monitor manufacturer's web site . This is just crazy when it well run every thing else fine but just no games . I'm starting to think it's the video card . Becouse when the fan quit on it it , it run hot before I replaced the fan .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Skuzzy on August 15, 2014, 02:46:51 PM
Skuzzy I manage to set it through the NVDIA control panel but when I do it goes to black screen .
I well try going to the monitor manufacturer's web site . This is just crazy when it well run every thing else fine but just no games . I'm starting to think it's the video card . Becouse when the fan quit on it it run hot before I replaced the fan .

Just because it is set in the NVidia control panel does not mean it is set in DirectX.  Run DXDIAG again and see if the refresh rate has changed to 60Hz.

It very well could be the video card is having a problem.  There are two distinct modes for video cards.  Windows desktop and 3D.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 15, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
Just because it is set in the NVidia control panel does not mean it is set in DirectX.  Run DXDIAG again and see if the refresh rate has changed to 60Hz.

It very well could be the video card is having a problem.  There are two distinct modes for video cards.  Windows desktop and 3D.

I see . No it has not changed .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 15, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
You can set it in Windows without using the nVidia control panel, if my memory serves me right. Just right click on an empty field of your desktop, choose Properties->Settings->Advanced-> Display(?) to find the good old Windows Refresh rate drop down menu.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 15, 2014, 06:46:57 PM
Flench you said you cleaned your computer up? did that include removing Aces High and doing a fresh install?

is it possible his Videocard has burned up a component or popped a capacitor that affects the 3D side of it?

I also noticed his hardware acceleration for sound is set to FULL on WinXP SP3, might want to turn it back to 3/4  in DirectX ( DXDIAG )

Also, for a healthy WindowsXP install, your page file used should be around 100 MB's used, yours is above   500 MB's used...

Flench, I have some spare Nividia Videocards laying around if you need one.....

Hope this helps

TC

Title: Re: PC help
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 15, 2014, 06:53:46 PM
something else to try, since you was able to run the DXDIAG report, it shows this:

Quote
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

rerun your DXDIAG, but this time go to the video tab at the top and run the test in order that are available to do, and see what comes up, run this

DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run



it might show you where your problem is....

just a thought...  good luck


TC
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2014, 11:07:00 AM
Bizman , I tried that .

TequilaChaser , I well try to rerun DXDIAG and do what you said and see what we get . I'm pretty sure it's the video card but why well it run video's so well ? I mite have to take you up on a video card .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 16, 2014, 11:22:57 AM
whatever I can do to help Flench, just let me know.....


TC
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Thanks TequilaChaser , Got to be the video card . Only thing it can be .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 16, 2014, 01:58:17 PM
is it possible his Videocard has burned up a component or popped a capacitor that affects the 3D side of it?
Worth checking, but unfortunately the GTX250 seems to use the type that doesn't bulge or leak. OTOH they don't seem to fail as often as the regular ones.
I'm pretty sure it's the video card but why well it run video's so well ?
Videos don't have to make that much calculation, they are like "as is" whereas a game does all kinds of tricks in the background like lighting, shadows, skinning and whatnot. T&L, transform and lighting is somewhat of an overall term for that. To clarify, on a video you see an image of what has happened. Every shadow, shine, glow and reflection has actually been there, visible for the camera eye and captured on the "film". In a game all of this gets created at the very instance and it changes every time you move your viewing angle. I suppose long grass swaying in the wind with the sun shining low like in the morning or evening is among the most challenging tasks for a video card, calculating the angle of every single straw and leaf and their relation to the light source and other straws casting shadows 60 times a second.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2014, 05:34:48 PM
Thank you Bizman . I understand now .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 17, 2014, 08:25:14 AM
I got to hurry up and get in game to keep me off the forum , lol .
Update though TequilaChaser is going to fix me up with another video card . Got to be what it is . I took it all apart [PC] yesterday and rechecked every thing . All look's good .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: The Fugitive on August 17, 2014, 09:02:00 AM
I got to hurry up and get in game to keep me off the forum , lol .
Update though TequilaChaser is going to fix me up with another video card . Got to be what it is . I took it all apart [PC] yesterday and rechecked every thing . All look's good .

Did you run the tests TC suggested? Those are the 3d test and should tell you flat out if the card can or can not run 3d graphics.
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 17, 2014, 09:11:43 AM
Good Morning Flench,

I'll have that list of videocards for you here ( well in a pm ) within next hour or so, sir...

Then, hopefully the water heater will have recovered...looks like I'll be going to the dang ER today, not gonna make it 'til tomorrow to see my doc... I rolled/twisted my right foot/ankle and torqued my right kneecap... I've done had 2 previous right knee operations already...this crap happened last Weds. and is getting worse by the hour...heh

What one does trying to not step on their dogs, heh

Have it to you soon

TC
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Bizman on August 17, 2014, 09:30:50 AM
Nicely described, TC! I could almost feel the pain myself, although my current sciatica helps empathizing. Get well soon!  :salute
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 17, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
Did you run the tests TC suggested? Those are the 3d test and should tell you flat out if the card can or can not run 3d graphics.

Yes I run the test and all looked fine .Now I think I did it right .

TequilaChaser , man I screw up one like that around 8 year's ago and I can turn hard or something and it pop out like . Has a torn legmen in it now . I know your pain . Can't walk or anything . s u c k s .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 31, 2014, 05:04:29 AM
Update : That's what the problem was , the video card . Many thanks TequilaChaser for the card's . See you all in game .
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 31, 2014, 06:37:30 AM
Good Morning Flench,

good to hear that you're up and running.....

now if I can be any help at all, let me know and we will work on tweaking that Windows XP SP3 OS ( operating System ) of yours

as I posted about it earlier, a well cleaned and tweaked windows XP machine should be running after start up and at idle with anywhere from 23 or 24 processes in use down towards 18 to 16 processes in use.............. I personally ran mine anywhere between 18 to 20 processes and my pagefile was right around 90 to 100 MB's used

I am not sure if Black viper's website is still up or not, but you can give it a try

www.blackviper.com   His website has been referred by many here to other AH players, on going and learning what to tweak/turn off and what not to tweak or not to turn off......

Let me know if I can be of any more help to you...... If I come across a better Video card that I do not need, I'll hold on to it for you......

best of Luck to ya! 

<S>

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: PC help
Post by: Flench on August 31, 2014, 10:34:56 AM
GREAT ! Blackviper.com is still up .
Thanks for the link and all the help Johnny <S> .