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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: xxIENAxx on August 24, 2014, 05:57:08 PM
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Hey guys, i need your help.
The 24th has been my Anniversary (23 years) and because (also this past year), i have been such a great and wonderful husband ;), my wife would like to give me a present. Well, this time i wish some books about German Aces and/or the Bf 109. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance. :salute
IENA
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A Higher Call: An Incredible True Story of Combat and Chivalry in the War-Torn Skies of World War II by Adam Makos
http://www.amazon.com/Higher-Call-Incredible-Chivalry-War-Torn/dp/0425255735
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look at victoria's secret books. pretty sure you can find something there :).
semp
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STUKA PILOT.
No contest.
Second only to SAMURAI! as the greatest book from "the other side" of the conflict.
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A Higher Call: An Incredible True Story of Combat and Chivalry in the War-Torn Skies of World War II by Adam Makos
http://www.amazon.com/Higher-Call-Incredible-Chivalry-War-Torn/dp/0425255735
This a great one.
But my favorite one this year is Unbroken..
here is the movie trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrjJbl7kRrI
About a Olympic runner who becomes a bombider and durning a mission crashes into the sea. Set the world record for time survived at sea only to be captured by the japs.
On a May afternoon in 1943, an Army Air Forces bomber crashed into the Pacific Ocean and disappeared, leaving only a spray of debris and a slick of oil, gasoline, and blood. Then, on the ocean surface, a face appeared. It was that of a young lieutenant, the plane’s bombardier, who was struggling to a life raft and pulling himself aboard. So began one of the most extraordinary odysseys of the Second World War.
The lieutenant’s name was Louis Zamperini. In boyhood, he’d been a cunning and incorrigible delinquent, breaking into houses, brawling, and fleeing his home to ride the rails. As a teenager, he had channeled his defiance into running, discovering a prodigious talent that had carried him to the Berlin Olympics and within sight of the four-minute mile. But when war had come, the athlete had become an airman, embarking on a journey that led to his doomed flight, a tiny raft, and a drift into the unknown.
Ahead of Zamperini lay thousands of miles of open ocean, leaping sharks, a foundering raft, thirst and starvation, enemy aircraft, and, beyond, a trial even greater. Driven to the limits of endurance, Zamperini would answer desperation with ingenuity; suffering with hope, resolve, and humor; brutality with rebellion. His fate, whether triumph or tragedy, would be suspended on the fraying wire of his will.
In her long-awaited new book, Laura Hillenbrand writes with the same rich and vivid narrative voice she displayed in Seabiscuit. Telling an unforgettable story of a man’s journey into extremity, Unbroken is a testament to the resilience of the human mind, body, and spirit.
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Grizz vs m00t: Late 1944 Lethality in a Bf109-K4
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A couple books about German aces;
The German Aces Speak: World War II Through the Eyes of Four of the Luftwaffe's Most Important Commanders By Colin Heaton
Gunther Rall: A Memoir, Luftwaffe Ace & NATO General By Jill Amadio
A Higher Call: An Incredible True Story of Combat and Chivalry in the War-Torn Skies of World War II By Adam Makos
The last one was by far the best.
Obie
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GUNS UP . It's about a machine gunner in Vietnam . Very good read . I know it's not what your looking for but you should check it out .
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A couple books about German aces;
The German Aces Speak: World War II Through the Eyes of Four of the Luftwaffe's Most Important Commanders By Colin Heaton
Gunther Rall: A Memoir, Luftwaffe Ace & NATO General By Jill Amadio
A Higher Call: An Incredible True Story of Combat and Chivalry in the War-Torn Skies of World War II By Adam Makos
The last one was by far the best.
Obie
That book by Amadio was horrible. She has no idea what flying is like.
Sorry.
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Schnaufer: Ace of Diamonds was a good read.
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That book by Amadio was horrible. She has no idea what flying is like.
Sorry.
Agreed. The Gunther Rall book was not very well written. The other two are very good though. Here's another one to consider:
The Star of Africa: The Story of Hans Marseille by Colin D. Heaton
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The Blond Knight of Germany is another good one.
ack-ack
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If you want to buy something beyond the standard "noble heroes of the air" stuff, try two books by Johannes Steinhoff himself:
Messerschmitts Over Sicily: Diary of a Luftwaffe Fighter Commander
From a review:
"War in the air: no knights in shining armour
Great book! Not only did Steinhoff write a lucid account of the desperate struggle of a shrinking air force against overwhelming odds, he also proves to be a engrossing writer who is able to convey the increasingly cynical thoughts of the fighter pilots and to bring home the pressure of the daily missions with an almost statistical certainty of death or captivity in the end.
(...)
Steinhoff shows how the fighter pilot is always alone in his battle, no-one at his side and how this grates at the nerves. Not fear, but anxiety is the word he uses for this state of mind."
The Final Hours: A German Jet Pilot Plots Against Goering
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Thank you guys. :salute
IENA
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Ones that I like from German perspective with much 109 action described therein:
The First and the Last, by Galland
JG26: Top Guns of the Luftwaffe, by Caldwell
Also, congratulations on your 23rd anniversary -- <S> to you and your wife!
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If you want to buy something beyond the standard "noble heroes of the air" stuff, try two books by Johannes Steinhoff himself:
Messerschmitts Over Sicily: Diary of a Luftwaffe Fighter Commander
From a review:
"War in the air: no knights in shining armour
Great book! Not only did Steinhoff write a lucid account of the desperate struggle of a shrinking air force against overwhelming odds, he also proves to be a engrossing writer who is able to convey the increasingly cynical thoughts of the fighter pilots and to bring home the pressure of the daily missions with an almost statistical certainty of death or captivity in the end.
(...)
Steinhoff shows how the fighter pilot is always alone in his battle, no-one at his side and how this grates at the nerves. Not fear, but anxiety is the word he uses for this state of mind."
The Final Hours: A German Jet Pilot Plots Against Goering
A Higher Call: An Incredible True Story of Combat and Chivalry in the War-Torn Skies of World War II by Adam Makos
http://www.amazon.com/Higher-Call-Incredible-Chivalry-War-Torn/dp/0425255735
Yes. All three of these are must reads.
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I realize it's WWI...but.
"The Day The Red Baron Died" By Dale Titler.
Read about the pilot that all the WWII pilots dreamed to be like....and he was the one that took "Boelke's Dicta" and added to it when he ran the Jagdgeschwader.
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(http://www.bookloveroxford.co.uk/sites/default/files/aviation1%20052.jpg)
:lol
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If you like reads about WW2 air combat, then these three books:
First and foremost: I Flew for the Fuhrer (http://"http://www.amazon.com/I-FLEW-FOR-THE-FUHRER/dp/1848326483")
I found this book at the RAF Museum in London about 15 years ago. I've ben a WW2 aircraft buff for 40+ years and it's hands-down the best I've ever read. Written from a first hand, very personal level.
Next, take your pick: Aces Against Germany and Aces Against Japan.
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Horrido! Fighter aces of the Luftwaffe. :aok
http://www.amazon.com/Horrido-Fighter-Luftwaffe-Toliver-Constable/dp/B002NEAETS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1409015746&sr=8-3&keywords=Horrido+fighter+aces+of+the+luftwaffe
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Visit the Schiffer books website and go through the Luftwaffe section. 181 books to choose from. I like the unit histories myself :)
http://www.schifferbooks.com/military-catalog-959/military-aviation-history-693/aviation-german-luftwaffe-ww-ii-715/?zenid=886d91a4f8ec872487cfdce99b6b2ae1
Or you could go to Eagle Editions and do the same thing
http://www.eagle-editions.com/library-of-eagles.html
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Did I miss someone mentioning Lipfert's bio book?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Diary-Hauptmann-Helmut-Lipfert/dp/0887404464
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WOW ! ok where do I start , lol .
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Surprised at the pan of Amadio's book on Rall.
Having met Rall briefly back in the 90's, I got a sense that he was less about war stories and more about character. His force of will in conversation was almost a physical thing. Because of that, I think Amadio simply wrote the book that Rall demanded - less operations and more about his life and family.
I liked Knocke, Rudel, and Galland books.
Thanks for the tips on the other titles. Adding to read list.
:salute
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Blond Knight of Germany, the autobiography of Eric Hartman. By to toliver and constable and By Colin d Heaton and anne-marie Lewis. The star of Africa. The story of Hans Marseille. The 2 best 109 pilots I can think of..
And great reads..
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A Higher Call or Messerschmitts over Sicily by Steinhoff are both excellent.
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I'm currently reading Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand. They're making a movie based on it, shaping up to be a good one.
Others I've read:
1) the Bomber Boys by Travis L. Ayres
2) the Faustball Tunnel by John Hammond Moore
3) Four Came Home by Carroll V. Glines (autographed by Robert Hite)
4) a Higher Call by Adam Makos
5) to Kingdom Come by Robert J. Mrazek
6) Masters of the Air by Donald L. Miller
7) Night of the Intruders by Ian McLachlan
8) Spitfires Over Malta by Paul Lovell (dang near was able to get this one autographed as well, but he was out on "holiday" when my sister picked this up for me while visiting Dover Castle in England).
9) the Victors by Stephen Ambrose
10) the War in the Air edited by Gavin Lyall
Edit: oh yeah, and American Sniper by Chris Kyle
My next read will be Leading with Honor by Lee Ellis (autographed at an ACF convention in Savannah, GA)
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GUNS UP . It's about a machine gunner in Vietnam . Very good read . I know it's not what your looking for but you should check it out .
I enjoyed this book so much, I joined the Corp and asked for that MOS.
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I enjoyed this book so much, I joined the Corp and asked for that MOS.
Yeah , it's a killer book . I mite have to read it again . Been a long time .
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I don't have any suggestions but wow, 23 years is great! Congratulations!
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I enjoyed this book so much, I joined the Corp and asked for that MOS.
I can not remember who the writer was do you ?
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I can not remember who the writer was do you ?
John Clark. I think the book it read "Johnny Clark".
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John Clark. I think the book it read "Johnny Clark".
Cool , Thanks <S>