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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vudu15 on September 01, 2014, 10:19:11 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68wwjGcUK7U&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68wwjGcUK7U&feature=youtu.be)
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:aok
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Wow the Icons and tank dar see right through terrain and buildings? :headscratch: How many quarters did you have to put in? :rolleyes:
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4 I think.
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Pay2win is so lame.
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You can win without dropping a single penny, yea it helps....but it doesn't help a person who sucks no matter how much money they have invested. If you cant drive or use the tank you'll die just like everyone else.
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i play WOT and yes i did have a premium account at one time. It was my birthday and i was curious! Sue me! now i'm back to the regular old account and still enjoy the game. Oh and yeah i win quite a bit to lol :banana:
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You can win without dropping a single penny, yea it helps....but it doesn't help a person who sucks no matter how much money they have invested. If you cant drive or use the tank you'll die just like everyone else.
I beg to disagree. Gold ammo and the ability to load faster, turn faster and see through walls pretty much makes the game as unfair as it gets.
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I beg to disagree. Gold ammo and the ability to load faster, turn faster and see through walls pretty much makes the game as unfair as it gets.
premium account wont let you load faster, turn faster or see thru walls. and gold ammo can be bought with credits. I buy a premium account with wot when it's on sale. it costs about 7 bucks a month for a full year. think I paid about 85 bucks for a full year around the 4th of july. last time I bought gold was about 2 years ago.
semp
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premium account wont let you load faster, turn faster or see thru walls. and gold ammo can be bought with credits. I buy a premium account with wot when it's on sale. it costs about 7 bucks a month for a full year. think I paid about 85 bucks for a full year around the 4th of july. last time I bought gold was about 2 years ago.
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Yeah? You can use gold to achieve 100% skill to your crew, then you can attach special skills to the crew and boost them further with paid perks such as chocolate etc. We must be playing a different game - after all you have 100 yard disappearing tanks also that I've never seen in the game :devil
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Yeah? You can use gold to achieve 100% skill to your crew, then you can attach special skills to the crew and boost them further with paid perks such as chocolate etc. We must be playing a different game - after all you have 100 yard disappearing tanks also that I've never seen in the game :devil
if you want to, you can use gold to upgrade skills to 100%, me I prefer to grind, or transfer my crews from other tanks once they become elite. by the time I get to tier 6 most of my tanks are on their second or 3rd skill. as for chocolate bars... etc you can buy those with coins. and the skills and perks can all be attained using the old fashioned way, grind it.
and seriously you never seen a tank appear or disappear at 100 meters in wot :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl. it's part of the mechanics. not one person hasnt seen it happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6A23iDin6A
semp
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if you want to, you can use gold to upgrade skills to 100%, me I prefer to grind, or transfer my crews from other tanks once they become elite. by the time I get to tier 6 most of my tanks are on their second or 3rd skill. as for chocolate bars... etc you can buy those with coins. and the skills and perks can all be attained using the old fashioned way, grind it.
and seriously you never seen a tank appear or disappear at 100 meters in wot :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl. it's part of the mechanics. not one person hasnt seen it happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6A23iDin6A
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So now you changed your mind and gold CAN be used in order to gain an advantage such as 50% increase in camoflage or '6th sense' detecting unseen enemies. How shocking.
The tank was completely obstructed by a cover it never disappeared anywhere. Also the player may have used camouflage special skill on one or more of crew members to increase the effect of coverage. What's next, you call on AH and WT glitchy because planes disappear into clouds? LOL!
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So now you changed your mind and gold CAN be used in order to gain an advantage such as 50% increase in camoflage or '6th sense' detecting unseen enemies. How shocking.
The tank was completely obstructed by a cover it never disappeared anywhere. Also the player may have used camouflage special skill on one or more of crew members to increase the effect of coverage. What's next, you call on AH and WT glitchy because planes disappear into clouds? LOL!
no, a premium account wont let you load faster or gain advantage over those with no premium account when having the same tank and same skills/perks. for example a guy with premium account and 50% cammo skills is the same as a guy with no premium account and 50% cammo skills. only difference will be that the premium account lets you get to 100% faster due to that 50% increase in earned xp and coins.
and you are right the guy in the video didnt dissapear when the other tank was at 50 meters he just went hiding behind a small bush and could not be seen, but wait isnt it the same as dissappearing? just a play on words isnt it. and that was due to the game mechanics.
semp
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no, a premium account wont let you load faster or gain advantage over those with no premium account when having the same tank and same skills/perks. for example a guy with premium account and 50% cammo skills is the same as a guy with no premium account and 50% cammo skills. only difference will be that the premium account lets you get to 100% faster due to that 50% increase in earned xp and coins.
You can increase crew skill with chocolate, coffee etc. condiments that you can buy. You can make your tank run faster and turret turn faster with gold (120 octane gas) etc. Are you claiming to have no knowledge of such features?
and you are right the guy in the video didnt dissapear when the other tank was at 50 meters he just went hiding behind a small bush and could not be seen, but wait isnt it the same as dissappearing? just a play on words isnt it. and that was due to the game mechanics.
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From your earlier posts you left the impression that WOT somehow sucks because tanks disappear for no reason in a similar fashion like planes and players used to disappear in WW2OL for example. You made this argument in discussions that involved theoretical game limitations imposed by map sizes, graphics detail levels and amount of players.
If your claim is that tanks are sometimes obstructed and invisible by other objects such as bushes or trees in WOT, then we can both agree.
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You can increase crew skill with chocolate, coffee etc. condiments that you can buy. You can make your tank run faster and turret turn faster with gold (120 octane gas) etc. Are you claiming to have no knowledge of such features?
how often do you play? you can buy all of this with coins and without using any gold.
From your earlier posts you left the impression that WOT somehow sucks because tanks disappear for no reason in a similar fashion like planes and players used to disappear in WW2OL for example. You made this argument in discussions that involved theoretical game limitations imposed by map sizes, graphics detail levels and amount of players.
If your claim is that tanks are sometimes obstructed and invisible by other objects such as bushes or trees in WOT, then we can both agree.
and I do understand the mechanics of the game and why they use them. their maps are only like 1k meters by 1k meters. and this arent theoretical game limitations these are facts imposed by map sizes graphic detail and amount of players.
semp
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What... Is Belarus an enemy of Finland too? :confused:
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You can increase crew skill with chocolate, coffee etc. condiments that you can buy. You can make your tank run faster and turret turn faster with gold (120 octane gas) etc. Are you claiming to have no knowledge of such features?
All of these things can be bought with gold or credits. The only real advantage to using premium is it increases the rate you gain exp and credits. You can get plenty of gold through events and clan wars. You do not know what you are talking about.
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All of these things can be bought with gold or credits. The only real advantage to using premium is it increases the rate you gain exp and credits. You can get plenty of gold through events and clan wars. You do not know what you are talking about.
No, you don't know what you're talking about. There are many perks that can only be paid by gold. 120oct gas is one example. You can get only 100oct using credits.
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and I do understand the mechanics of the game and why they use them. their maps are only like 1k meters by 1k meters. and this arent theoretical game limitations these are facts imposed by map sizes graphic detail and amount of players.
semp
That's total BS. The map size is a design choice and it has nothing to do with technical limitations. WOT has short rounds with matched up players and having a large map would be really detrimental to gameplay because it would mean that players could wander around for hours in the slow tanks without finding a single enemy. The compact maps are designed to give instant action while allowing some strategic moves.
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Lol what are you feeding that "female dog"
Russian Children :rofl
Ahhhh I have to watch more
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No, you don't know what you're talking about. There are many perks that can only be paid by gold. 120oct gas is one example. You can get only 100oct using credits.
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Consumables (http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Consumables)
From the WOT Wiki...
100-octane Gasoline 5,000 credits
105-octane Gasoline 50 Gold or 20,000 Credits
Could you tell me more about this 120 oct gas? You seem so knowledgeable and I can't seem to find info about it anywhere.
I'm no cheerleader for WOT but accurate info is helpful.
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http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Consumables (http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Consumables)
From the WOT Wiki...
100-octane Gasoline 5,000 credits
105-octane Gasoline 50 Gold or 20,000 Credits
Could you tell me more about this 120 oct gas? You seem so knowledgeable and I can't seem to find info about it anywhere.
I'm no cheerleader for WOT but accurate info is helpful.
You are correct I apologize. It's 105 oct and it seems that on the selection menu it shows only gold as option but once you select it, it lets you to switch it to credits. I was under the impression that it was available only for gold. In practical terms these 'perks' can only be maintained with gold anyway since having them installed during battles makes you bleed credits faster than you can earn them.
But that fact doesn't remove the gold-only premium tank types which are a bit like perk planes in AH.
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You are correct I apologize. It's 105 oct and it seems that on the selection menu it shows only gold as option but once you select it, it lets you to switch it to credits. I was under the impression that it was available only for gold. In practical terms these 'perks' can only be maintained with gold anyway since having them installed during battles makes you bleed credits faster than you can earn them.
Fair enough. There was a time where you needed gold to buy certain items but you can obtain gold through clan wars or events instead of paying for it. The point being is you can pay to advance faster but you are not paying to win. Bottom line is you can do just as well as anyone else without paying any money for the game or items in the game. You just better play well or you will lose credits on higher level tanks since they are less profitable to run.
But that fact doesn't remove the gold-only premium tank types which are a bit like perk planes in AH.
Please point out the gold only premium tanks that are like perk planes in AH. In my experience owning several of them and all I have ever known from forums and talking to those who own the ones I don't have, the truth is they are for the most part equal to and mostly inferior to non gold tanks of their tier. The real benefit of these tanks is they earn more credits per battle and just recently have increased exp earnings for the crews. You can also transfer crews from similar non gold tanks without penalty to help train them up. In short, your statement here, too, is factually inaccurate. In AH, perk planes are perked because they are superior in many regards to non perked planes. The perk costs help regulate their use. In WOT, almost all the gold tanks have average win rates but have earnings and exp bonuses. You can not buy gold tanks and increase your win rate through them. You can only gain better exp and credits bonuses vs non gold tanks of the same tier.
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Fair enough. There was a time where you needed gold to buy certain items but you can obtain gold through clan wars or events instead of paying for it. The point being is you can pay to advance faster but you are not paying to win. Bottom line is you can do just as well as anyone else without paying any money for the game or items in the game. You just better play well or you will lose credits on higher level tanks since they are less profitable to run.
Please point out the gold only premium tanks that are like perk planes in AH. In my experience owning several of them and all I have ever known from forums and talking to those who own the ones I don't have, the truth is they are for the most part equal to and mostly inferior to non gold tanks of their tier. The real benefit of these tanks is they earn more credits per battle and just recently have increased exp earnings for the crews. You can also transfer crews from similar non gold tanks without penalty to help train them up. In short, your statement here, too, is factually inaccurate. In AH, perk planes are perked because they are superior in many regards to non perked planes. The perk costs help regulate their use. In WOT, almost all the gold tanks have average win rates but have earnings and exp bonuses. You can not buy gold tanks and increase your win rate through them. You can only gain better exp and credits bonuses vs non gold tanks of the same tier.
Perhaps you're right. The game must be full of cheats then because they do stuff that's not possible using any of my tanks. Especially the rapid fire weapons seem to penetrate every armor even the heavys without problems.
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There is nothing that will convince you. You are making a religious argument. I'm just trying to point out the facts for the benefit of all. In all honesty, you can criticize the game in many respects, just like any other. Your points so far though have not been based on facts. Most all of the criticisms of the game mechanics are not unfair if you understand the game mechanics. They are equally fair and unfair to all equally. Now, if you just suck, then don't blame the game.
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There is nothing that will convince you. You are making a religious argument. I'm just trying to point out the facts for the benefit of all. In all honesty, you can criticize the game in many respects, just like any other. Your points so far though have not been based on facts. Most all of the criticisms of the game mechanics are not unfair if you understand the game mechanics. They are equally fair and unfair to all equally. Now, if you just suck, then don't blame the game.
Yeah and nobody cheats in online games. Heard that before lol.
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Someone cheats at pretty much every game. That does not change my point.
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Someone cheats at pretty much every game. That does not change my point.
The fact remains that using money you can achieve things easyer and faster and without money you have to work and spend hours to achieve the credits. So the pay to win aspect is absolutely correct.
If AH was pay to win, you could buy perk points with money and fly around in a Tempest all day.
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The fact remains that using money you can achieve things easyer and faster and without money you have to work and spend hours to achieve the credits. So the pay to win aspect is absolutely correct.
If AH was pay to win, you could buy perk points with money and fly around in a Tempest all day.
In the case of WOT, you can play the game in it's entirety without paying a dime if you choose. You can not do that with AH. I'm not criticizing the AH business model, I'm just saying you are unjustly belittling another business model based on bias.
You can obtain plenty of gold without paying a dime for it. If you choose not to obtain gold through clan wars or events, you can pay for it. Having gold makes some things easier but there is nothing you can obtain with gold that you can not earn otherwise. You can't buy anything with money that you can't get through other means. Your example is flawed. By definition it is not a pay to win game.
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The fact remains that using money you can achieve things easyer and faster and without money you have to work and spend hours to achieve the credits. So the pay to win aspect is absolutely correct.
If AH was pay to win, you could buy perk points with money and fly around in a Tempest all day.
you are wrong again. if you have a premium account you get 50% more xp and 50% more credits. but if you suck you arent gonna advance faster than somebody that takes the time to learn and shoots without missing and doesnt have a premium account. to get more xp and more credits you actually have to cause damage.
semp