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Title: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: Randy1 on September 12, 2014, 02:08:35 PM: Nice pictures and some neat looking almost planes that might have used the Alison V-1710.

http://www.enginehistory.org/Convention/2009/Presentations/AHx4_WWII.pdf (http://www.enginehistory.org/Convention/2009/Presentations/AHx4_WWII.pdf)
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: DaveBB on September 13, 2014, 10:30:24 AM: The B-42 would have saved lots of (American) lives had it been designed earlier. A postwar study found that besides escort fighters, a bombers most important defensive weapon was speed.
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 13, 2014, 11:41:05 AM: Very interesting, thanks for sharing! :rock
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: glzsqd on September 13, 2014, 11:43:27 AM: Alison wonder land ;)
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: Someguy63 on September 13, 2014, 11:53:33 AM: Quote from: glzsqd on September 13, 2014, 11:43:27 AM
Alison wonder land ;)

:lol

Alice IN Wonderland?
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: Randy1 on September 13, 2014, 01:56:55 PM: The part count between the Allison and the Rolls Royce Packard engine was interesting.
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: streakeagle on September 13, 2014, 09:52:15 PM: "P-38 with radials is a bad idea", tell that to Grumman with the F7F. Though I like the looks of a B-17 with inline, so maybe an F7F would be pretty cool with sleek inlines, too.
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: Karnak on September 14, 2014, 01:16:43 AM: Quote from: DaveBB on September 13, 2014, 10:30:24 AM
The B-42 would have saved lots of (American) lives had it been designed earlier. A postwar study found that besides escort fighters, a bombers most important defensive weapon was speed.
De Haviland knew that at the start of the war and demonstrated it during the war.
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: bozon on September 14, 2014, 01:36:52 AM: Quote from: Karnak on September 14, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
De Haviland knew that at the start of the war and demonstrated it during the war.
Except almost no one believed de Havilland either - "Freeman's folly" and all.

I always imagined the day he pitched this idea to the top RAF brass something like this:

- "I have this great new idea that will make out bomber force much more efficient!"
- "OK, what is it?"
- "Instead of a 4-engined all-metal bomber with lots of guns you all want so much, I'll build a tiny 2 engine bomber."
- "Really? how many gun turrets?"
- "None what so ever!"
- "What will it do against fighters than?"
- "Nothing! I'll make it so fast that fighters will not catch it"
- "Sure you will..."
- "Yes! and we can use the same airframe to build photo-recce, fighter and fighter bomber versions! Isn't that awesome?"
- "This is getting silly. Any other bright ideas?
- "Yes! I'll build it out of Balsa and Plywood!"
- "Get the F### out!"
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: Greebo on September 14, 2014, 02:11:17 AM: Thanks for that Randy, very interesting.
Title: Re: World War II and the V-1710
Post by: pipz on September 14, 2014, 06:31:08 AM: Quote from: bozon on September 14, 2014, 01:36:52 AM
Except almost no one believed de Havilland either - "Freeman's folly" and all.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's sounds pretty accurate doesn't it. :D