Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Slade on September 13, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
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Hello,
I think it would be cool if there was a message that displayed how many kills in a row you get. That is inclusive over multiple sorties of course.
Not all of us need or use the rearm pad.
Thanks for considering,
Slade :salute
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Does in a row mean kills over sequential sorties until the sequence is ended by failing to land?
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Does in a row mean kills over sequential sorties until the sequence is ended by failing to land?
That or death before next kill. What ever makes the most sense.
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Fighter Ace had this listed next to the player's icon - they were called Aces. For every 5 kills, a * would appear by your name. It was a great way of adding an element of competition.
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I think this is a interesting idea, but not sure what purpose it would serve.
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If there's one thing this game needs, it's more incentive to only engage when you have every possible advantage, and run immediately when you lose it.
Wiley.
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If there's one thing this game needs, it's more incentive to only engage when you have every possible advantage, and run immediately when you lose it.
Wiley.
It probably would have that effect for some, but only the ones who do it already so what difference would it make.
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I agree that having 'a name in lights' is attractive to some players, including potential new players in the future. We currently only acknowledge individual successes once a month.
I quit Fighter Ace in 2000, so my memory is a little dodgy. Wasn't the player call sign displayed as part of the A/C icon in game with the 'rack' tagged onto the end of it?
As a general rule, if I remember correctly, the largest racks (sometimes over 50 kills) were worn by the guys we love to hate here. There's nothing like an icon that looked like "Xabbaras **********" to clutter up your gun sight. Especially when the pilot in question was picking the edges of a furball all night.
Since we don't display call-signs on icons, just the A/C type, you could put something like that on the in-game roster, perhaps. I wouldn't look at it anyway. Obviously, I don't care too much about scores and 'racks', but others might like it.
I also remember the notion of military ranks in Fighter Ace. It took the average jasper about 3 hours of killing newbies in the training arena to make General although the majority of players earned it properly over time.
I'm all for things that will bring folks back to this game. Even this, I suppose. But I'd like to see new ideas not inspired by games that folded. How does War Thunder acknowledge their successful players today? <--- a serious question. Since Gaijin is really the same Russian designers and coders from 'Fighter Ace', are they doing 'racks' and such? I really don't know.
:salute
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Since Gaijin is really the same Russian designers and coders from 'Fighter Ace', are they doing 'racks' and such? I really don't know.
Really? I wasn't aware of this.
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As a general rule, if I remember correctly, the largest racks (sometimes over 50 kills) were worn by the guys we love to hate here. There's nothing like an icon that looked like "Xabbaras **********" to clutter up your gun sight. Especially when the pilot in question was picking the edges of a furball all night.
:salute
If you got more than 5 it went to number form so _Bruv_ *50.
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Really? I wasn't aware of this.
I did some sleuthing this morning to refresh an old and tired memory.
Perhaps there's some slight speculation in my definitive comment. The trail is Mark Vange "Maverick" - VR1 - Microsoft - Ketsujin Studios - perhaps Gaijin Entertainment. VR1 used Russian developers (late of the demised Russian space shuttle program) to develop Fighter Ace. Vange is more than an entrepreneur and was among the pioneers of MMO. My speculation is that, because talented developers don't simply go away and the similarities of War Thunder to FA with regard to art, flight models and game play is inescapable, the same guys provided the foundation to both games.
So, in honesty, I can't prove what I asserted. However, I think it makes sense and would welcome comment from those who know more about it than I do.
If you got more than 5 it went to number form so _Bruv_ *50.
I'm sure you are correct, but I believe your example represents the final evolution of the kills display in FA. To the original post: would we want in-game icons in Aces High to display a callsign and a running kill count?
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I'm sure you are correct, but I believe your example represents the final evolution of the kills display in FA. To the original post: would we want in-game icons in Aces High to display a callsign and a running kill count?
Speaking for myself, no.
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I'd like to think too that, compared to many other changes, this would be an easier one to write code for.
Thanks again for considering it. :salute
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cool, more excuses for challenging each other to the da?
semp
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No thanks. It will encourage more timid flying.
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It wouldn't do anything but make the ego's bigger, clutter up the icons and increase smack talk on 200. We all ready know who is good, they tells us everyday. :devil
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Hi Kenai!
been busy with work, see you in the cartoon skies soon!
~S~ Buck
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Fighter Ace had this listed next to the player's icon - they were called Aces. For every 5 kills, a * would appear by your name. It was a great way of adding an element of competition.
I would love that
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Nothing more than a way to encourage vulching and avoiding actual ACM. Back in Airwarrior there was some sort of announcement after each kill and everyone knew it meant nothing as the guys racking up the numbers were all hovering over a field in the VoD vulching.
If it matters to you, keep a pen and paper handy and write it down yourself
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Nothing more than a way to encourage vulching and avoiding actual ACM. Back in Airwarrior there was some sort of announcement after each kill and everyone knew it meant nothing as the guys racking up the numbers were all hovering over a field in the VoD vulching.
If it matters to you, keep a pen and paper handy and write it down yourself
There seems to be some strange ideal that all AHers should be subscribed to. A set of rules that seems to state that how one can, and should play the game.
Thats not a good way of looking at things.
Some people really do like to fly for score. Myself sort of included (i don't like the current scoring methods) I think it is fun to see how well I can stack up to the other players.
I very much love the ability to rearm. I want to see just how far I can go, how far I can take it against human opponents before one of them gets me. This was one of my biggest complaints of AWIII, there was no ability to rearm. So if I take a 109k in that game I could only expect a few kills at best. A F4U gave alot more ammo so I could get more, and thats what I mostly flew. Because of that.
Some fly for score.
Some fly for killstreaks. <--as is relevent in this post
Some fly for intense dogfights
Some fly for the thrill of hunting bombers over the strats.
Some fly to be that bomber
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
The point is that it should not matter, because every players flying and fighting style and their enjoyment of the game is different. What is wrong with that? The diversity of allowing a player to play the game how they want is why I play Aces High.
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Your point is exactly correct MK-84. People play different ways. Adding something that only reinforces one way to play would be detrimental to the diversity of game play. To that end, if you want to fly for a kill streak so be it. But don't impose it on the rest of us by having some message coming across the screen telling us about it.
Since I like to fly into a crowd and die often, is it ok that we reward that too? Do you really need to see "CorkyJr has died on 101 sorties in a row"? Or would it be better if I just kept track myself? :)
The point is the same. Artificially rewarding or encouraging one style of play over another would be detrimental to the game overall.
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Adding something that only reinforces one way to play would be detrimental to the diversity of game play.
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I bet you that I fly a more diverse set of planes each month than almost anyone (go check - month-after-month). P-40s to LA5s. My HUGE tendency is to fly non-uber planes. This places me in a very diverse set of scenarios and ACM possibilities. Your accusation lacks any effort of fact finding before the post.
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But don't impose it on the rest of us by having some message coming across the screen telling us about it.
That being said, I wonder if this type message could be disabled. Just like how stars are visible or not.
AH, please augment this wish to have the option to disable the message for those that dont want to see it.
Thanks all for your posts. :salute
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I would love that
As would I, but it seems we're most likely in the minority overall. Most players here seem to hate any kind of objective measure of competition.
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That being said, I wonder if this type message could be disabled. Just like how stars are visible or not.
AH, please augment this wish to have the option to disable the message for those that dont want to see it.
Works for me.
Now that I think of it, it would be nice to have that option in order to disable the "Heroic Player has landed 10 kills in an La7" sort of message, too.
- oldman
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As would I, but it seems we're most likely in the minority overall. Most players here seem to hate any kind of objective measure of competition.
With respect, I have to point out that objective measures are readily available in two places. One is the ranking next to callsign on the roster pop up. The other is the score tab on the main HTC page. Less objective and more subjective are the 'outcome stats' displayed in the text buffer at landing.
I'm not sure that an icon-based 'measure of competition' would represent anything more than a 'BadAzz Badge'. However, if this is what the Aces High community at large needs then let's try it.
A wise man once said something about pouring gasoline on a fire...but I don't know what that means.
:salute
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I bet you that I fly a more diverse set of planes each month than almost anyone (go check - month-after-month). P-40s to LA5s. My HUGE tendency is to fly non-uber planes. This places me in a very diverse set of scenarios and ACM possibilities. Your accusation lacks any effort of fact finding before the post.
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That being said, I wonder if this type message could be disabled. Just like how stars are visible or not.
AH, please augment this wish to have the option to disable the message for those that dont want to see it.
Thanks all for your posts. :salute
I bet your reward is already there in the challenges you provide for yourself. I doubt you need the rest of us to give you an "attaboy" for your efforts though :)
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Aces High is like golf; no matter how bad a** you think you are the only real person you're playing is against yourself.
If you want to limit yourself fly fast late war aircraft with a firewalled throttle, never take risks, vulch fields and so on. I'm certain you'll land kills and maybe that will appease the internal inadequacies you may suffer from. Regardless, flying like this and beating your chest about your skill level in the game is a pointless exercise as the community can see the bullcrap for what it really is.
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I think folks can take a simple wish and project all kinds of things into it.
I certainly can keep track of it myself. In fact in my early days of playing this game I'd used an Excel spreadsheet and tried to examine and learn from each sortie.
AH, if the community wishes to have this wish so as only the player achieving x kills in a row sees it that is fine with me. On the side, if most want it displayed so be it. I am good either way.
I think it is harmless. I also think stats\score is only really useful for eaches own use and not as a comparison on how good one is ...but that is just me.
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We had this long time ago, was announced in the chat buffer
XXX had kill #1 in P-51D
XXX had kill #2 in P-51D
XXX had kill #3 in P-51D
etc
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Hi Kenai!
been busy with work, see you in the cartoon skies soon!
~S~ Buck
Hey Buck
Give me a yell the next time your on :salute
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The achievement system already tracks streaks.
The arguement that this wish would encourage diversity is flawed in my opinion. It does the exact opposite. Plus, having that attached to a players icon would have unintended consiquences for the people who enjoy this style of fighting by painting a big bullseye on their back. Other players would want the chest thumping rights to be the guy who ended that players run.
There's a simple question to ask yourself while playing. "If everyone did this, would the game be any fun?" If the answer is "no" you shouldn't live by whatever it is you're doing.
In the case of recognizing and encouraging kill streaks, a larger population of players than we already have would be encouraged to pick and run in an effort to preserve their score. This is not good for the game as a whole. Try to imagine an arena where all the players are afraid of combat and chose not to engage in it unless they are guaranteed a win. I have a pilots license. I don't come to AH for the scenery.
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There's a simple question to ask yourself while playing. "If everyone did this, would the game be any fun?" If the answer is "no" you shouldn't live by whatever it is you're doing.
Many a player thoroughly enjoys flying bombers mostly or even all the time. If everyone did this, of course the game would quickly become shallow and boring, even for the bomber guys without having anyone to attack them. Does that mean nobody should fly bombers anymore? ;)
A lot of different play styles & goals can mix up for a good gameplay which would never work if literally everyone did one of them them all the time.
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Now this is a fantastic idea. Can we have little fake paper medals in the post too?
We don't require any further incentives for people to play in a timid fashion to preserve stars next to their names. I give this a huge and grotesquely hairy -1
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We don't require any further incentives for people to play in a timid fashion to preserve stars next to their names. I give this a huge and grotesquely hairy -1
on the contrary it already happens everyday. An idea that might help some people focus on aerial combat rather than throwing their cartoon plane into bases or each other or the next capture.
Sporting rocks or killing someone with them was very satisfying and increased determination. IMO.
Icons and achievements can be turned on or off same could be done for this. Of course there are loads of other things that I'd rather see first.
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Sporting rocks or killing someone with them was very satisfying and increased determination. IMO.
Hmmm...I was more inclined to agree with some of the posts stating otherwise but I can see your point. Maybe it would work...
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A lot of different play styles & goals can mix up for a good gameplay which would never work if literally everyone did one of them them all the time.
Agreed. Which, in my opnoin, is why we don't need to incentivize a certain style that lends itself to exactly that end.
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the game would quickly become shallow and boring, even for the bomber guys without having anyone to attack them.
If that was truly the case, then why do bombers fly so damn high they might as well be flying offline? There are very few individuals that are willing to climb that high to intercept, or worse yet wait around for the bomber that might pass by (and hoping he doesn't simply bail out outside of range).
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-1 on any Icon change that shows a kill streak or player ID.
+1 to a message shown when you lose the killstreak but with one caveat. The minimum killstreak message shown is 50.
No, seriously.
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If that was truly the case, then why do bombers fly so damn high they might as well be flying offline? .
What means "so damn high" in this context?
Most bombers in this game do things I'd call tactical work (attack on bases) and generally come in at an altitude up to 15k. (Many prever to stay below the first wind layer starting at 14k) Which in my book is not that dam high at all, and ensures that you are quite probably being attacked by fighters. Some do fly higher, though, but generally at or around 20k only.
25k+ Raiders are quite rare in all forms of base centered combat, they are only prevalent in long distance strat runs.
When I go buff hunting at peak hours near very large battles (which tend to increase the combat altitudes), 20k is more than enough to be higher than like 9 out of 10 bombers that come along. In most cases, much higher.
For the record, the average bomber sortie duration for bombers is less than 20 minutes... you don't get very high in that time. And only about one in three bombers gets home to land his mission.
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I think current kill streak could quite easily be displayed in the player score report via roster.
Re attaboy's for kill streaks upon landing.... Would we not end up with the buffer full of them? ( given they were carried over every successful landing)
Totally agin recognition of enemy pilots or competency via icon. Part of ACM/SA is determining the skill of your opponent/s. Leave that sort of thing in the DA.
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I think the problem is we will have way too many messages announcing kill streaks, since every sorty you land with even a single kill will be announced.
semp
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I think the problem is we will have way too many messages announcing kill streaks, since every sorty you land with even a single kill will be announced.
semp
two victories is the minimum for the system to display a "landed kills" message
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I think the problem is we will have way too many messages announcing kill streaks, since every sorty you land with even a single kill will be announced.
semp
Then set it to 50 minimum for the kill streak message. Think you would see a lot then? So many it would be annoying?
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I thought about this. There really is no harm in a kill streak message. None. There is also no absolute that people will or will not change their flying habits if this message or even one showing the status of the 11 year sunspot cycle (or anything in between) is displayed.
I say enable a message to be displayed for kill streaks and for the peeps that cant handle it give them an option to disable it. They can already choose to not tune on to 200.
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(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/snailstreak_zps98f90af5.png~original)
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I will not reward this disgusting travesty of a picture of me with any kind of a comment. :old:
Oh, wait... :bhead
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An interesting likeness, Arlo.
I see it in my nightmares.
:cheers:
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Apologies. Random net search and boom. The shell made it hard to avoid the title. :) :cheers: :bolt:
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Simply fix is to limit this to flying planes with ENY of 20+ (Maybe higher)