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Title: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: BBP on September 14, 2014, 02:10:11 PM
We need more fighters that pilots would use, not like the Jap Plane KI - 43 - II. This plane was brought on board and most of us flew it one time and that was it! Then we got those wonderful Bombers He 111 h. If you haven't tried it, don't waste your time. Why are these planes added to the game? The only reason I can think of is they could be used in the early war game. But I doubt it.
We need more competitive planes. And many of the planes we have, need features to be updated. This wouldn't take much to focus on this instead of spending time , energy and resources on Water World. 
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 02:16:05 PM
http://www.ahevents.org/

P.S. If you can't be competitive with the following HUGE variety of fighters:

    F4U-1
    F4U-1A
    F4U-1C
    F4U-1D
    F4U-4
    F6F-5
    P-38G
    P-38J
    P-38L
    P-40
    P-47D-11
    P-47D-25
    P-47D-40
    P-47N
    P-47M
    P-51D
    Spitfire Mk V
    Spitfire Mk VIII
    Spitfire Mk IX
    Spitfire Mk XIV
    Spitfire Mk XVI
    Tempest Mk V
    Typhoon Mk I
    Bf 109F-4
    Bf 109G-2
    Bf 109G-6
    Bf 109G-14
    Bf 109K-4
    Bf 110C-4b
    Bf 110G-2
    Fw 190A-5
    Fw 190A-8
    Fw 190D-9
    Fw 190F-8
    Ta 152H
    Me 163
    Me 262
    C.205
    A6M3
    A6M5b
    Ki-61-I-KAIc
    Ki-84-la
    N1K2-J
    La-5FN
    La-7
    Yak-3
    Yak-7B
    Yak-9

(I count 48 models and variants - including the P-40 *chuckle*)

then adding more uber ain't gonna do it for ya. (Just sayin')

 :salute :cheers: :D
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 02:25:41 PM
No offense.  :)
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: pembquist on September 14, 2014, 02:30:50 PM
One man's opinion I guess. On the other hand some find your competitive planes to be boring boring boring.

But seriously do you have an aircraft in mind that you would like to have in the game?

(Don't hate on the HE-111, its the hippest bomber in the game.)
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: bustr on September 14, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
The is a common cognitive disconnect in our game that helps keep new toys coming, or old toys getting updated. Wanting new rides for innocent reasons presented on face value opposed to wanting something new and better for the sake of new and better and some how more powerful.

Kimo displays this in a honest forward manner without knowing it.

 PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!

The wish for some other ride that might just click with your current abilities, and give you a sudden boost above your existing skill set. Opposed to visiting the TA or the DA for ACM lessons.

Arlo, we have all been there.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
Heh hehehe

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003a2_zps763f9b60.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003b2_zps34cf72ff.png)

(Note - one of these has been modeled/added since this visual was created)

 :salute :cheers: :D
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 02:39:51 PM
Hi, Buster. Good to have you back!  :)
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Coalcat1 on September 14, 2014, 02:45:27 PM
Heh hehehe

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003a2_zps763f9b60.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II_003b2_zps34cf72ff.png)

(Note - one of these has been modeled/added since this visual was created)

 :salute :cheers: :D
+1 to all of em, and don't forget the F6F-3, we have 5 hogs and only 1 hellcat... :(
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
+1 to all of em, and don't forget the F6F-3, we have 5 hogs and only 1 hellcat... :(

Good point! +1
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 14, 2014, 03:04:44 PM
We need more fighters that pilots would use, not like the Jap Plane KI - 43 - II. This plane was brought on board and most of us flew it one time and that was it! Then we got those wonderful Bombers He 111 h. If you haven't tried it, don't waste your time. Why are these planes added to the game? The only reason I can think of is they could be used in the early war game. But I doubt it.
We need more competitive planes. And many of the planes we have, need features to be updated. This wouldn't take much to focus on this instead of spending time , energy and resources on Water World.  
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray

You forgot to ask for the X-Wing, F22, and Mig-29.  You're the type of player that needs the latest, the greatest, and the most "flash-bang" colorful aircraft in order to "enjoy" the game whatever it may be.  I bet you're the type of guy who claims your team favorites are the ones who won last years championship game. I bet your the easiest guy to get on the bandwagon for what is "best".  If you cant see the bigger picture than perhaps step back, take a deep breath, and try again. AH is far bigger than being an arcade game.

Why don't you try taking a plane that isn't one of the "three" you're flying over and over.  Try the 109G's, P47's, Yak's, etc. Leave the arcade planes in the hanger and challenge yourself. Do you not have a sense of "I accomplished something" when you land kills in a P40? 109G? Zekes? 190's? Etc. There are DOZENS of fighters to chose from. Learn them. CHALLENGE THYSELF!  
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: USCH on September 14, 2014, 03:11:11 PM
We need more fighters that pilots would use, not like the Jap Plane KI - 43 - II. This plane was brought on board and most of us flew it one time and that was it! Then we got those wonderful Bombers He 111 h. If you haven't tried it, don't waste your time. Why are these planes added to the game? The only reason I can think of is they could be used in the early war game. But I doubt it.
We need more competitive planes. And many of the planes we have, need features to be updated. This wouldn't take much to focus on this instead of spending time , energy and resources on Water World. 
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray
buy a jet game and go fly jets. the HE111 and and the Ki 43 are some of the best things HTC could do. not every aspect of this game revolves around the LW MA
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: caldera on September 14, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.

What are the three planes "we" are flying over and over?  I would bet that your three planes are mothballed in my hangar. 

And you don't need the at, it's superfluous.  :)
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
Nooooo. Don't buy a 'jet game' like USCH recommends (I understand where he's coming from but we need ya).

HTC/Dale and co. have been adding uber planes since the inception of the game. There is no shortage of them.
There may even be more added. However, needing another uber added to overcome boredom indicates, to me,
not so much a problem with the plane set as it may be with how you approach boredom. As another suggested,
fly something outside the '3 plane set' (seriously?) you have limited yourself to. Come join those of us who
fly historical events. Join or fly with a squad that has an historical slant in the MA. You may be surprised how
'un-boring' things can get. And spread the joy. Get others hooked.

Anyhoo. On a side note, I'd like to see various nationalities of ships modeled to promote more sea warfare (perhaps
luring that other small niche that is into WWII surface ocean warfare). And it would help events,as well. If it sounds
like I like historical scenarios ... well ..... guilty. (And I even like flying historically in the MA).  :cheers:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: glzsqd on September 14, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
Fly the p40c for an entire tour. Than you will know true power.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Volron on September 14, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
We need more fighters that pilots would use, not like the Jap Plane KI - 43 - II. This plane was brought on board and most of us flew it one time and that was it! Then we got those wonderful Bombers He 111 h. If you haven't tried it, don't waste your time. Why are these planes added to the game? The only reason I can think of is they could be used in the early war game. But I doubt it.
We need more competitive planes. And many of the planes we have, need features to be updated. This wouldn't take much to focus on this instead of spending time , energy and resources on Water World. 
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray

Do to piss poor way of going about this...

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc473/UnkShadow/avatar_3629.gif)



How about listing just ONE of these so called "competitive planes" you are looking for?
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: The Fugitive on September 14, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
We need more fighters that pilots would use, not like the Jap Plane KI - 43 - II. This plane was brought on board and most of us flew it one time and that was it! Then we got those wonderful Bombers He 111 h. If you haven't tried it, don't waste your time. Why are these planes added to the game? The only reason I can think of is they could be used in the early war game. But I doubt it.
We need more competitive planes. And many of the planes we have, need features to be updated. This wouldn't take much to focus on this instead of spending time , energy and resources on Water World. 
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray

I was checking the stats to see which 3 planes you feel are the only rides worth riding and I can't find you as BBP, or KIMO. Do you even fly?
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: bozon on September 14, 2014, 04:51:51 PM
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
PLEASE GIVE US A FEW NEW COMPETITIVE PLANES!!!
KIMO :pray
If you want things to be interesting fly the "less competitive" planes - the more capable a plane is, the less interesting it is to fly and fight with. Flying the La7/Spit16/P51D will get boring fast unless you are a fan of those planes (seriously, is there ONE player that has a deep historical fascination with the La7? Whose childhood heroes flew La7s?). No need to go far - try the La5/Spit9/P51B as replacements for the above 3. If those are not competitive enough for you, nothing will help you.

Want to tread off the beaten path? try these: C.205, Mosquito VI, KI61, P38G/J - all of which are excellent fighters that get way less credit than they deserve, with the P38J probably leading the bunch in capability/credit ratio. How about a Yak9U? The Yak3 is so ridiculous that it completely over shadows its larger and more powerful brother in arena usage, but the 9U is still the faster plane and retains most of the Yak3 advantages vs. opponents.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on September 14, 2014, 06:22:14 PM
Hmmm, perhaps compensating for something...
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: WWhiskey on September 14, 2014, 06:46:25 PM
If your not flying /loving / killing, in a Jug,, I don't know how to help you!
There is no greater satisfaction than killing spits and stuff with an overweight bomb truck!
The PMs are sometimes priceless!
FM-2 is a close second best on my list of super fun planes to land loads of kills in!
P-38s are great as well!
As far as missing stuff,, everything on my list is in the game except the Pershing ,, I fully expect it'll show up someday,  until then I'll shoot up the other tanks in my M-18 and the firefly or M-4

I'd recommend spending a week in every plane in the game,, or.  Land two kills in each plane, before moving to the next one!
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on September 14, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
Quote
I go down the list of planes to make a selection and I go No, No, No, Boring, Boring, Boring, nope, nada. That's where we are at. Flying the same 3 planes over and over.
I fly the same 3 planes over and over and over all the time: the P-38G, P38J, P38L.  :old:
As you can see, I am a dedicated Lightning dweeb/junkie. :devil  and, yes I die alot.

But then, I'm not here to be the ultimate undefeatable pilot. Flying an "unbeatable" plane; that is the fastest, has the largest gun package (everybody knew that one was comming  :D ) most heavily armored.

As for new planes, I vote for the P38H to be added to our toybox.

just my $0.02


LtngRydr
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Latrobe on September 14, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
If your not flying /loving / killing, in a Jug,, I don't know how to help you!
There is no greater satisfaction than killing spits and stuff with an overweight bomb truck!
The PMs are sometimes priceless!
FM-2 is a close second best on my list of super fun planes to land loads of kills in!
P-38s are great as well!
As far as missing stuff,, everything on my list is in the game except the Pershing ,, I fully expect it'll show up someday,  until then I'll shoot up the other tanks in my M-18 and the firefly or M-4

I'd recommend spending a week in every plane in the game,, or.  Land two kills in each plane, before moving to the next one!

The PMs after killing things in a Jug were some of the best. I got so many hack accusations from out turning spit 16s in a D-11   :devil
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Zerstorer on September 14, 2014, 07:12:59 PM
I fly the same 3 planes over and over and over all the time: the P-38G, P38J, P38L.  :old:
As you can see, I am a dedicated Lightning dweeb/junkie. :devil  and, yes I die alot.

But then, I'm not here to be the ultimate undefeatable pilot. Flying an "unbeatable" plane; that is the fastest, has the largest gun package (everybody knew that one was comming  :D ) most heavily armored.

As for new planes, I vote for the P38H to be added to our toybox.

just my $0.02


LtngRydr

P-38s are poo!  :old:

I vote for the ME-210!  :old:

Yes, I am a masochist.   :old:











Posted with apologies to Zach1234....
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on September 14, 2014, 07:18:03 PM
Quote
Yes, I am a masochist.

Real masochists fly P38s  :D


LtngRydr
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: BBP on September 14, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
OK Guys let me add a little to my WISH! First of all I am KimoSabe. I'm on my 3rd year playing HC. The first year was a big set back as I had a computer that wasn't very good. My Bad! The computer would never calibrate my planes properly. So I flew around with guns that were being bounced around as I tried to shoot innocently thinking I stunk. By chance I got an upgraded computer and saw a difference immediately.
So I played my second year and realized, I'm going to need to learn this game all over. I had learned so many bad habits and I just couldn't shake them. So about 4 months ago I decided to take time of to basically start over. I stop playing for 3-4 months.
I've been playing again now for about 3 weeks. The difference is amazing. The lay off helped tremendously. I played and replayed over and over in my head, making moves and executing shots. It payed off big time. I'm playing so much better. But I still have lots of room for improvement.
Now through this process I have flown these planes, all of them, over and over. I have tried staying with one plane for 2-3 months.  And I have tried just flying 2-3 planes in a month. I have tried about everything.
My favorites planes are the 109A-5, KI-84-LA, LA-7 and Spit XVI Guess those are my favorite. But I still fly the others trying to improve in those as well. When the turners aren't working for me I go to the LA-7 but have a hard time hitting anything with the cannons. I don't fly Bombers much at all.
I love getting altitude and dropping in on peeps with the 109A-5, KI-84-LA and the Spit. When having a bad day I get run down in those and will go to the LA. But I may not kill anyone with those cannons or I might get 5 or 6 kills sometime. Everything else in the game I'm below average in. I find if they have guns I can kill with, they won't turn well enough or they are to slow on pick up and I get caught from behind. There is always a reason to be unsuccessful in the other planes. Sorry that's just the way it is for me. I know some of you can pick many of these other planes and be very successful but I can't. That's why I would like a few new ones or Some of the ones we have remodeled. I am happy to listen or read any ones constructive criticism. :salute :salute :salute  
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: caldera on September 14, 2014, 07:56:31 PM
Real masochists fly P38s  :D


LtngRydr

OK there, sizzlechest.  There are far worse planes than the P-38.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on September 14, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Quote
sizzlechest
:headscratch:
now that is one I'm not familar with.
The funniest thing I've ever been called was "yankee".
I was in the Dallas/Fort Worth area when that happened 1980-1981.
I'm from Burbank, CA.


LtngRydr
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: caldera on September 14, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
OK Guys let me add a little to my WISH! First of all I am KimoSabe. I'm on my 3rd year playing HC. The first year was a big set back as I had a computer that wasn't very good. My Bad! The computer would never calibrate my planes properly. So I flew around with guns that were being bounced around as I tried to shoot innocently thinking I stunk. By chance I got an upgraded computer and saw a difference immediately.
So I played my second year and realized, I'm going to need to learn this game all over. I had learned so many bad habits and I just couldn't shake them. So about 4 months ago I decided to take time of to basically start over. I stop playing for 3-4 months.
I've been playing again now for about 3 weeks. The difference is amazing. The lay off helped tremendously. I played and replayed over and over in my head, making moves and executing shots. It payed off big time. I'm playing so much better. But I still have lots of room for improvement.
Now through this process I have flown these planes, all of them, over and over. I have tried staying with one plane for 2-3 months.  And I have tried just flying 2-3 planes in a month. I have tried about everything.
My favorites planes are the 109A-5, KI-84-LA, LA-7 and Spit XVI Guess those are my favorite. But I still fly the others trying to improve in those as well. When the turners aren't working for me I go to the LA-7 but have a hard time hitting anything with the cannons. I don't fly Bombers much at all.
I love getting altitude and dropping in on peeps with the 109A-5, KI-84-LA and the Spit. When having a bad day I get run down in those and will go to the LA. But I may not kill anyone with those cannons or I might get 5 or 6 kills sometime. Everything else in the game I'm below average in. I find if they have guns I can kill with, they won't turn well enough or they are to slow on pick up and I get caught from behind. There is always a reason to be unsuccessful in the other planes. Sorry that's just the way it is for me. I know some of you can pick many of these other planes and be very successful but I can't. That's why I would like a few new ones or Some of the ones we have remodeled. I am happy to listen or read any ones constructive criticism. :salute :salute :salute  

Stick with the LA-7, Spit XVI and Ki-84.  If you are having trouble succeeding in these, you'd be hard pressed to find any new plane that will work out better for you.  You say you are re-learning and basically started over three weeks ago?  Proficiency doesn't happen overnight in this game.  Make an appointment with a trainer.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: FLS on September 14, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
OK Guys let me add a little to my WISH! First of all I am KimoSabe. I'm on my 3rd year playing HC. The first year was a big set back as I had a computer that wasn't very good. My Bad! The computer would never calibrate my planes properly. So I flew around with guns that were being bounced around as I tried to shoot innocently thinking I stunk. By chance I got an upgraded computer and saw a difference immediately.
So I played my second year and realized, I'm going to need to learn this game all over. I had learned so many bad habits and I just couldn't shake them. So about 4 months ago I decided to take time of to basically start over. I stop playing for 3-4 months.
I've been playing again now for about 3 weeks. The difference is amazing. The lay off helped tremendously. I played and replayed over and over in my head, making moves and executing shots. It payed off big time. I'm playing so much better. But I still have lots of room for improvement.
Now through this process I have flown these planes, all of them, over and over. I have tried staying with one plane for 2-3 months.  And I have tried just flying 2-3 planes in a month. I have tried about everything.
My favorites planes are the 109A-5, KI-84-LA, LA-7 and Spit XVI Guess those are my favorite. But I still fly the others trying to improve in those as well. When the turners aren't working for me I go to the LA-7 but have a hard time hitting anything with the cannons. I don't fly Bombers much at all.
I love getting altitude and dropping in on peeps with the 109A-5, KI-84-LA and the Spit. When having a bad day I get run down in those and will go to the LA. But I may not kill anyone with those cannons or I might get 5 or 6 kills sometime. Everything else in the game I'm below ave :aokrage in. I find if they have guns I can kill with, they won't turn well enough or they are to slow on pick up and I get caught from behind. There is always a reason to be unsuccessful in the other planes. Sorry that's just the way it is for me. I know some of you can pick many of these other planes and be very successful but I can't. That's why I would like a few new ones or Some of the ones we have remodeled. I am happy to listen or read any ones constructive criticism. :salute :salute :salute  

That's a much better post than the opener.  :aok

What you describe sounds like you need training not a new aircraft.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: HighTone on September 14, 2014, 09:19:42 PM
Thanks for the Oscar HTC!

Love the Ki43...I still fly it  :rock
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Saxman on September 14, 2014, 09:59:06 PM
+1 to all of em, and don't forget the F6F-3, we have 5 hogs and only 1 hellcat... :(

Need an F4F-3, too. The -4 is inappropriate for Coral Sea, and many other scenarios in which the Marines participated (IE, Guadalcanal). And our -4 with the four-gun package is not comparable to the -3
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 10:03:28 PM
I am happy to listen or read any ones constructive criticism. :salute :salute :salute  

Hi, Kimosabe. You're on your way to being ahead of the curve already. I'll never have the best skill
in this game. But I've always loved it.  :D :cheers:

P.S. You really do need to give historical events a try. I think you'll like them.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2014, 10:04:01 PM
Need an F4F-3, too. The -4 is inappropriate for Coral Sea, and many other scenarios in which the Marines participated (IE, Guadalcanal). And our -4 with the four-gun package is not comparable to the -3

+1 there, too.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: The Fugitive on September 14, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
Stick with the LA-7, Spit XVI and Ki-84.  If you are having trouble succeeding in these, you'd be hard pressed to find any new plane that will work out better for you.  You say you are re-learning and basically started over three weeks ago?  Proficiency doesn't happen overnight in this game.  Make an appointment with a trainer.

That's a much better post than the opener.  :aok

What you describe sounds like you need training not a new aircraft.



That is a much better post, detailed information.

I agree with the two post above and the bolded sections most importantly. Just flying around shooting at stuff isn't going to make you better.... well any time soon anyway. You may be making all kinds of little mistakes that once corrected will start getting to victories instead or quick rides to the tower.

Hook up with a trainer for an hour or two. Listen to what they say, and practice what they tell you. You will be amazed at how much faster you get better.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: BBP on September 14, 2014, 10:21:57 PM
Thanks Guys! That's what I plan on doing!  Hey! I shot down MidWay, Skyyer and Sfox all in the same day last week. Does that count for anything? :x :cheers: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Guppy35 on September 14, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
What are the three planes "we" are flying over and over?  I would bet that your three planes are mothballed in my hangar. 

And you don't need the at, it's superfluous.  :)

Isn't that the truth :)

Not that I'm flying these days, but I'm guessing my P38G isn't one of those three :)
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Karnak on September 14, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
BBP,

There aren't a lot of top end fighters left to be added at this point.  Some mid range ones and some early war stuff, but unless you press for the very end of the war, and perhaps some just barely didn't make it fighters, there isn't anything that meets your criteria.  Meteor Mk III and Spitfire F.21 could be added, but they are both perk planes for sure.  F7F and F8F might be addable as they were in service, but missed combat, both are also perk planes.  We're pretty tapped on on end of war German and Russian fighters.  The end of the war for the Italian fighters, G.55 and Re.2005, would be nice, but they aren't going to be dethroning anything.  End of the war Japanese fighters could bring in the J2M5 and Ki-100, but the Ki-84 is better.  The Germans never got the Do335 in service and the Japanese never got the A7M or J7W in service.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: bozon on September 15, 2014, 01:00:45 AM
Hi, Kimosabe. You're on your way to being ahead of the curve already. I'll never have the best skill
in this game. But I've always loved it.  :D :cheers:

P.S. You really do need to give historical events a try. I think you'll like them.
Arlo makes a good point. This game is not about being the best solo flier - there are other ways it can be played. Scenarios and events add a lot of flavor to the endless MA furball/land grab. Instead of playing solo, you can join a squadron (are you in one?) and fly with wingmen - this adds whole new dimensions to combat, tactics and skills. Being a good wingman does not require that you be the hottest solo pilot, or fly the hottest planes. The social interaction of a squadron is another fun side of this game, if you are in the right kind of a squadron.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: RotBaron on September 15, 2014, 01:33:49 AM
How do you know the Ki-84 is/would be better than the J2M's? I think that's your best guess.  :noid

Given some albeit limited research on the J2M variants, I think it would be situational, the 5 could BnZ a Ki-84 all day, no?


p.s. +1 to the J2M's
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: BaldEagl on September 15, 2014, 03:05:44 AM
http://www.ahevents.org/

P.S. If you can't be competitive with the following HUGE variety of fighters:


(I count 48 models and variants - including the P-40 *chuckle*)

then adding more uber ain't gonna do it for ya. (Just sayin')

 :salute :cheers: :D

You missed a few.  This is the list I use for the dueling bracket (Fighter/Attack) which doesn't include the Me163, Me262 or WWI aircraft which are not available In the DA:

1      A6M2
2      A6M3
3      A6M5b
4      Bf 109E-4
5      Bf 109F-4
6      Bf 109G-14
7      Bf 109G-2
8      Bf 109G-6
9      Bf 109K-4
10      Bf 110C-4b
11      Bf 110G-2
12      Brewster
13      C.202
14      C.205
15      F4F-4
16      F4U-1
17      F4U-1A
18      F4U-1C
19      F4U-1D
20      F4U-4
21      F6F-5
22      FM2
23      Fw 190A-5
24      Fw 190A-8
25      Fw 190D-9
26      Fw 190F-8
27      Hurri Mk I
28      Hurri Mk II
29      Hurri Mk IID
30      I-16
31      Ki-61-I-KAIc
32      Ki-84-la
33      La-5FN
34      La-7
35      Me 410
36      Mosq Mk VI
37      N1K2-J
38      P-38G
39      P-38J
40      P-38L
41      P-39D
42      P-39Q
43      P-40B
44      P-40E
45      P-40F
46      P-40N
47      P-47D-11
48      P-47D-25
49      P-47D-40
50      P-47M
51      P-47N
52      P-51B
53      P-51D
54      Sea Hurri MkI
55      Seafire Mk II
56      Spit Mk I
57      Spit Mk IX
58      Spit Mk V
59      Spit Mk VIII
60      Spit Mk XIV
61      Spit Mk XVI
62      Ta 152H
63      Temp Mk V
64      Typh Mk I
65      Yak-3
66      Yak-7B
67      Yak-9T
68      Yak-9U
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Randy1 on September 15, 2014, 06:15:36 AM
I mean this as an overview and not to be directly critical.  Could be, you are fixated on having the upper hand in the fight.  That makes your plane list short and limits your AH growth.

You did not mention GVs and even PT boats.   Give them a go.  It is a whole new world. 
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 15, 2014, 06:43:59 PM
:headscratch:
now that is one I'm not familar with.
The funniest thing I've ever been called was "yankee".
I was in the Dallas/Fort Worth area when that happened 1980-1981.
I'm from Burbank, CA.


LtngRydr

Should have been Hippie!  :D
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Wmaker on September 16, 2014, 07:08:32 PM
As mentioned, there really aren't any fighters (that would be not perked) that could push themselves into the TOP 10 most popular fighters (per kills/deaths).

One single engine plane rarely mentioned very late war aircraft (hardly a fighter though) which could gain some popularity would be Il-10. Even then, in ground attack role, it really is hard to beat the American fighters which can load 2000lbs of bombs and bunch of rockets.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 16, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
One single engine plane rarely mentioned very late war aircraft (hardly a fighter though) which could gain some popularity would be Il-10. Even then, in ground attack role, it really is hard to beat the American fighters which can load 2000lbs of bombs and bunch of rockets.

The same could probably be said about the B7A.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Scca on September 17, 2014, 07:21:30 AM
Um, the KI-42 had 603 kills last tour, and was 29th in K/D, and 79th in number of kills.  I would say that it's being flown more frequently than once...

The natural progression is I suck > haxor > picker > ho'er > uber plane > I suck > get better...  When people are new, they know they are horrible.  After a while they think everyone is cheating "how could he pull that move, he must be hacking the system".  They then realize that's not happening but everyone is ho'ing and picking.  Then they blame their plane choice "it's not fair" they say. 

After a while they begin to realize it's their own fault, and decide to actually learn something and get better.  Once you understand you got picked because you had bad SA, and you got HO'ed because you decided to get in front of his guns, and when you get pwn'ed by an A8 (happened to me monday), that you were beaten by a better player you will take personal responsibility for your frustrations and get better. 

The plane has little to do with it, it's the pilot... 

Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Zerstorer on September 17, 2014, 07:55:21 AM
After a while they begin to realize it's their own fault, and decide to actually learn something and get better.  Once you understand you got picked because you had bad SA, and you got HO'ed because you decided to get in front of his guns, and when you get pwn'ed by an A8 (happened to me monday), that you were beaten by a better player you will take personal responsibility for your frustrations and get better. 

The plane has little to do with it, it's the pilot... 

Truer words are rarely spoken, especially the bolded ones.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Scca on September 17, 2014, 09:31:50 AM
Truer words are rarely spoken, especially the bolded ones.
says the guy that flys the HO machine  :lol :bolt:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Zerstorer on September 17, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
says the guy that flys the HO machine  :lol :bolt:

I consider it an educational service to the community.  :old:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: save on September 17, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
I can think of quite a few variants of planes/ new planes we already have that would not be perked or will change the game.

Mossie with armour and 6 pounder
190a3
190a9
109g6as
109g14as
Ju188
ju52 (what axis pilot would like a c47 ?)  :lol

Im sure the Allied fan's have more up their sleeves than I have.

Tank
stugIII
Sdkfz 251 with 75mm
Kv1
M24
pzIII







Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Chalenge on September 17, 2014, 07:12:07 PM
Does anyone have a complete list of AHII models that are still showing AHI lines?
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Karnak on September 17, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
ju52 (what axis pilot would like a c47 ?)  :lol
A Japanese one?  L2D 'Tabby'

Does anyone have a complete list of AHII models that are still showing AHI lines?
A-20G
Ar234B
B5N2
Bf110C-4b
Bf110G-2
Boston Mk III
D3A1
F4F-4
FM-2
Ju88A-4
Ki-61-I-Tei
Ki-67
Me163B
SBD-5
TBM-3 (a film indicated this one has been updated, but not released yet)
Tempest Mk V
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Chalenge on September 18, 2014, 12:51:33 AM
What about T-34/76 and LVTA2?
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Karnak on September 18, 2014, 05:18:53 AM
What about T-34/76 and LVTA2?
T-34/76, along with the Ki-84-Ia and the B-24J, was added as a 2.0 level model in Aces High v2.00.  All three of those are definitely showing their age though.

The LVTs were both upgraded without fanfare some time ago.  The prerelease screenshots of them were only shown on HTC's facebook page as I recall.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: BnZs on September 18, 2014, 07:44:50 AM
You know, the original post wasn't phrased very well. And HTC should certainly NOT stop filling gaps in the historical plane set.

 That said, I think there is small amount of truth to the idea that adding exciting very late war and even "What-if'ish" planes to MA could have positive results as far as attracting customers goes. That's just the nature of the market. And having more planes to spend perks on would be good. So if HTC finds the time to model the P-51H, F8F, F7F, P-80, Meteor, Sea Fury, He-162, Ta-183, etc, bring 'em on I say. Maybe even put in a special "1946" arena for them.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 18, 2014, 10:04:26 AM
You know, the original post wasn't phrased very well. And HTC should certainly NOT stop filling gaps in the historical plane set.

 That said, I think there is small amount of truth to the idea that adding exciting very late war and even "What-if'ish" planes to MA could have positive results as far as attracting customers goes. That's just the nature of the market. And having more planes to spend perks on would be good. So if HTC finds the time to model the P-51H, F8F, F7F, P-80, Meteor, Sea Fury, He-162, Ta-183, etc, bring 'em on I say. Maybe even put in a special "1946" arena for them.

The only "what if" plane I can see adding would be the Meteor III.  Anything else and it gets real wierd real fast.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Wiley on September 18, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
Bring on the Luftwaffe freak fliers!  I would love to see some of the what if concept stuff modeled in here.

It's a WWII game.  I'd much rather they fill in everything that flew in WWII here and made another game that was post WWII with the stuff that never saw combat.

Wiley.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Coalcat1 on September 18, 2014, 10:20:52 AM
The only "what if" plane I can see adding would be the Meteor III.  Anything else and it gets real wierd real fast.
The 162 wasn't a "what if" plane, it saw combat at the very end of the war, scored a few kills, and a few were shot down by mostly British fighters on take off and landing. By our standards, the 162 could be added just like any other plane, except with a hard coded fuel burn like the 163 due to only 20 min or so of fuel irl.
  EDIT: The P51H, if I remember correctly, was ready for combat in the ETO before the end of the war in enough numbers to be added, and it has been on a poll here before.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Lusche on September 18, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
T-34/76, along with the Ki-84-Ia and the B-24J, was added as a 2.0 level model in Aces High v2.00. 

I could swear the T-34/76 was also updated after that, like 2-3 years ago... Can't verify it though, as my system went down the crapper.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Karnak on September 18, 2014, 01:30:49 PM
I could swear the T-34/76 was also updated after that, like 2-3 years ago... Can't verify it though, as my system went down the crapper.
Nope.  Only change it has had is to remove access to its interior.  T-34/85 replaced its turret, but that had no effect on the T-34/76 model.

That said, the T-34/76 has aged far better than the Ki-84 and B-24 have.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Lusche on September 18, 2014, 02:18:07 PM
Nope.  Only change it has had is to remove access to its interior. 

If so, I was probably fooled by an exceptionally well made skin  :old:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Chalenge on September 18, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Well, if it was still the AHI version then I was planning on putting in a request for changes to the turret and to lose the 40 gallon external tanks. I don't know why they chose the Mickey Mouse D model over the E, but I think I would have gone with the E and the smoother turret with the cupola. It's alright the way it is, but it's certainly not an early war version.

Adding a 45mm version would be great, too, but only if it was accompanied with the Panzer Mk.III w/ 37mm and 50mm both.
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: MK-84 on September 18, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
If so, I was probably fooled by an exceptionally well made skin  :old:

I was thinking it was as well. However the T34 looks exactly the same as it always did when I started playing which was somewhere around 2008 I think (I swear it's been longer, but I guess time flys.) I know because the T35/76 still has that weird shiny look to it.  I suppose that the reason it still looks so good is because the actual exterior of the tank itself was absurdly simple, with basic angles, and not alot of extras about it, which was basically true to its real life counterpart.

Or HTC really liked the T34 :noid
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: xPoisonx on September 22, 2014, 11:17:21 AM
What about a 190D14  :O
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: alpini13 on September 22, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
what about the js-2 to counter the tiger 2?  or the earlier and later ki-61 when the ki-61 get a makeover? or some actual british tanks...not just the american tank with a british gun....a german counter to the m-8(puma?) and an early p-51 (a)apache, and early p-47..(c-5)?   and we are not even talking about seaplanes or small subs. :cheers:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: aztec on September 23, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
P47 D23
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Someguy63 on September 23, 2014, 09:44:10 AM
I want the 109G10 back. :old:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: glzsqd on September 23, 2014, 01:06:40 PM
I want the 109G10 back. :old:

You were never around for the g10!
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Someguy63 on September 23, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
You were never around for the g10!

Exactly. :old:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: darkzking on September 23, 2014, 02:10:03 PM
how about more japanese planes  :pray and a p63 need another 37mm chucker  :airplane:
Title: Re: More Fighters and UPGRADE What We Have
Post by: Someguy63 on September 23, 2014, 02:11:34 PM
how about more japanese planes  :pray and a p63 need another 37mm chucker  :airplane:

 :aok :banana: :banana: