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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GScholz on September 16, 2014, 11:47:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deX5GNS0YTM
I have big hopes for this movie! :aok
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Looks great! I can't wait to see this movie! :aok :banana:
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Shoot em in the back! :O
Looks like a good one!
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gonna have to see this one; but is it just me or do the interiors of the tanks seem to be too spacious to any body else?
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Americans were surprised by the Germans not once, but *twice* by Tigers and Panthers. In the summer of 44, the M-4 showed itself to be severely lacking against the Panthers and Tigers. Then in January of 1945, after many Shermans were up-gunned, they ran into Panther IIs and Tiger IIs, and also the tank destroyer versions of them.
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Tiger 131 which is in the movie was captured in North Africa in April 1943 and extensively tested back in Britain. That it was still a surprise in 1944 is... umm...
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Of course the Allies knew of the existence of Tigers and Panthers in 1943. The first Tiger destroyed was by a 57mm cannon in North Africa. But for some reason, mainly logistical, Americans didn't think the Tiger would be a threat. Let me find the article I'm referencing, I'm sure it will explain my point far better than I'm doing.
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CHILLS OMG YAS
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Very cool,, can't wait!
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I surely hope there is not any gooey love story somewhere in this movie
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Then in January of 1945, after many Shermans were up-gunned, they ran into Panther IIs and Tiger IIs, and also the tank destroyer versions of them.
The Tiger II saw service in Normandy in July of 1944 and only one Panther II chassis was built, it is at Fort Knox.
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How fitting... It is probably worth its weight in gold.
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Wow, great featurette, I admit to not really having high hopes for this film and not paying a whole lot of attention to the marketing, but this just changed my mind.
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How fitting... It is probably worth its weight in gold.
Not quite, but they are considered "hen's teeth". We tried to import one right around the beginning of the war on terror. We were denied permission owing to the country of location. That whole fiasco ended sadly for that vehicle.
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Of course the Allies knew of the existence of Tigers and Panthers in 1943. The first Tiger destroyed was by a 57mm cannon in North Africa. But for some reason, mainly logistical, Americans didn't think the Tiger would be a threat. Let me find the article I'm referencing, I'm sure it will explain my point far better than I'm doing.
Allies knew of the existance of Tigers and Panthers; but had no Idea the German army fielded them on a massive scale. What people fail to understand, is the American and British army in Italy and North Africa mainly fought against Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks as well as StuG Ausf. G models (in italy).
So the M4 really didn't have a threat since in Both campaigns they were......suitable. Well when the Normandy Landing happened, the Americans got an intelligence shock to find out the Germans had fielded far more Panthers and Tigers, let alone Tiger II's which were now going into service (I believe one SS Division had 12 Tiger II's in its company at the time).
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To further understand how bad the Tank situation was in Normandy; one tank commander of the 3rd Armored Division had an M4(75mm) tank as the lead vehicle armed with Smoke. Yes Smoke, when they came across a Tiger the idea was the lead Sherman smokes the tank for long as he can, while M4(76mm) try to flank the tank. Unfortunately being the Lead tank, these were often blown to bacon bits and the Germans adopted the tactic of aiming for all Sherman 75mm's first. The main reason for the Sherman (75) because 76mm Smoke rounds were not common in the arsenal at the time, so the Sherman 75 was tasked with the job.
It worked, but sadly many many crew members paid for it since when there "one tiger" there always is a second Tiger, or supporting vehicle nearby. Unlike Kursk in 1943 where it was accompanied with a Panzer IIIN for support; a Tiger in Normandy came in a platoon of 4.
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Wiki article on German AFV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_armored_fighting_vehicle_production_during_World_War_II
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That looks like its goin to be a good one.