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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Volron on September 21, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
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After stumbling onto a video in youtube, I heard mention of 4 movies that have me a little curious (they were mentioned in the comments, not the video itself).
War Game 1965
The Day After 1983
Threads 1984
World War III 1998
How many have seen these movies? I don't want details about what is in them (I wikied them just to confirm the years, and the initial reason for what they are about; IE: I spotted in one, WWIII cooking off as a result of something happening in Germany, but nothing more. Couldn't even tell you which one I spotted that one in.).
When I have time, I am going to hunt these down to watch for myself.
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Seen the day after, and part of threads
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IMDB lists three of them
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Here's Threads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwBRcitO1lA
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I like "Billy Elliot"
About a working class kid who father is a nasty man
And the kid becomes a ballet dancer :old:
I also like "Broke back Mountain", pipz bought me a copy for chirstmas :old:
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Seen all but the first one, "War Game" from 1965. If you like this genre, I'd suggest "Dawn's Early Light" and "Looking Glass".
Sabre
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I've seen "The Day After"
Add "Fail Safe" and "Dr. Strangelove" to your list.
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Seen all of those. Threads is better than the day after imo. You should watch The Fog of War. There's also a lot of documentaries about how we almost accidentally had nuclear war and nuclear bombs we lost.
The Fog of War.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwXF6UdkeI4
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Try to find "On the Beach", made in 1959. Set in Australia, absolutely fantastic film. It and "Fail Safe" had by far the most impact of how I think of Nuclear War.
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Try to find "On the Beach", made in 1959. Set in Australia, absolutely fantastic film. It and "Fail Safe" had by far the most impact of how I think of Nuclear War.
"On the Beach" is a truly frightening film because it's story holds as true today as it did when it was made!
"Fail Safe" was a frightening film when it was first released, but I think most people have become somewhat complacent to the message of this film due to the advancement of today's technology in aviation.
I think both films are a "must see" for the open minded.
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The original Red Dawn is the only movie you need to see according to my friend Trent. He says that movie had a huge impact on him as a child and he credits it as the main reason why he always has at least 30,000 rounds of ammunition at home plus supplies to load a few thousand more.
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The original Red Dawn is the only movie you need to see according to my friend Trent. He says that movie had a huge impact on him as a child and he credits it as the main reason why he always has at least 30,000 rounds of ammunition at home plus supplies to load a few thousand more.
On a serious note, your friend may have Paranoid Personality Disorder.
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On a serious note, your friend may have Paranoid Personality Disorder.
That's what I thought at first, but it seems that he is ready for what currently seems impossible. Even to himself.
That being said though, we really can't predict what the world will be like 20 years from now so it is always wise to be prepared for the worst case Ontario.
Personally if it were to hit the fan so to speak, I'd prefer to be standing next to people who can defend themselves, especially those who practice defending themselves several times a week and nearly always carry the tools to defend themselves wherever they go.
And just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean that they aren't out to get me. :neener:
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Try to find "On the Beach", made in 1959. Set in Australia, absolutely fantastic film. It and "Fail Safe" had by far the most impact of how I think of Nuclear War.
The Book was even more chilling.
If your ever able try and find the book "The Third World War" By British General Sir John Hackett. His life story is interesting enough but this book just blew me away at the time. Its a book that you'll enjoy if you already have some understanding of weaponry, tactics, military acronyms, and what not. I thought it was great and read it during my service days, and many times after. He wrote the first version I think in '78 or '79, about a war that started in '85, and a more current version Later. Both were about a Soviet attack on NATO and the resulting world wide conflict as the super powers and alliances clashed. I like the fact he paid respects to the lesser members of NATO who had very effective units operating, and still do. For instance Norway's submarine force...ect
Funny, its a historical curiosity now but at the time it was very, very real and Hackett describes it pretty darn good.
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The Book was even more chilling.
If your ever able try and find the book "The Third World War" By British General Sir John Hackett. His life story is interesting enough but this book just blew me away at the time. Its a book that you'll enjoy if you already have some understanding of weaponry, tactics, military acronyms, and what not. I thought it was great and read it during my service days, and many times after. He wrote the first version I think in '78 or '79, about a war that started in '85, and a more current version Later. Both were about a Soviet attack on NATO and the resulting world wide conflict as the super powers and alliances clashed. I like the fact he paid respects to the lesser members of NATO who had very effective units operating, and still do. For instance Norway's submarine force...ect
Funny, its a historical curiosity now but at the time it was very, very real and Hackett describes it pretty darn good.
Yeah, still have that one in my personal library. Hackett did an outstanding job with that one. Clancey's "Red Storm Rising" was a gifted amateur's attempt to re-create it. Hackett's work read like a military history book, yet managed to be both gripping and detached at the same time.
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Hackett's book got me started and interested regarding the Cold War and ww3.
Also, a great utube film put together with clips from the 80s, with actors and r/l combined, has some excellent footage of Nato and Soviet forces. It's called "World War 3, the movie", and can be difficult to find. It's up again on youtube, but who knows for how long, once it's gone again, it becomes very difficult to find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yXTCEZkjQ4
Catch it while you can, this is the first of 10 parts.
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What about Trinity and Beyond?
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My years in service was probably when the American military was weakest against the Soviet threat. This being '77 to '81. I was aware of it, training was kinda poor, morale was low, we had repeatedly been humiliated on the world stage. The worst of which being the Hostage crisis of '79. Being young I wasnt worried about anything but I was certainly aware of it. I was also on ground zero of our strategic response guarding it. And that response, both ours and the Soviets, was on hair trigger 24/7. We came close to Doomsday several times with accidents alone, and if we had accidents and miscommunications/errors in classifying threats? Imagine how many the Soviets had? Its kind of a miracle we survived those decades without a catastrophe.
Young people today have no idea the constant terror of WW-lll we used to live under. The alert level has been lessened, we both have far fewer deliverable weapons then we had "tho still plenty to wipe us all out", the Bombers are off the hot pads. Now there is probably more danger to a third world nuclear exchange, or terrorism use, then there is a super power attack.
At the time I honestly didnt think anything would ever change. But all things change. I think the height of the stare down was when we moved in Pershing-ll's and cruise missiles into Europe back in the mid-'80s. The Reds never really had an answer for cruise missiles and by then we had the initiative again technologically which forced them to the bargaining table for the IRNF treaty. It was during the '70s however that I believe was the biggest danger. We were all basically living for the day back then, thinking it really was only a matter of time.
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Try to find "On the Beach", made in 1959. Set in Australia, absolutely fantastic film. It and "Fail Safe" had by far the most impact of how I think of Nuclear War.
The book was good, didn't know about the movie. Thanks!
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was an 'apocalyptic' novel that was made into radio drama...I had copied it to cassettes(dial in time it was produced by that) from NPR...had main character living through attack on new york, while other cities were hit..I remember they made a crude radiation detector that I remembered from science class, a mason jar..some aluminum foil. DC was big crater.. Brits were somewhat left and brought some help, with severe triage of those sick w/radiation poisoning. Was several 'shows' long. The SW US was 'Asatlan'..california could only be accessed by train that did not slow down for a few hundred miles and where they hunted down and segregated/killed if necessary people that were 'hot'...
Authors(believe there were 2) were to make a sequel but couldn't agree so none was made.
Was VERY good radio drama, but I can never remember name, and can't find a cassette of series I recorded.
Any ideas on title..y'all so well read and all....
JGroth
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Found it... War Day, by Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka....
JGroth
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The Day After scared the hell out of me.
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The Day After scared the hell out of me.
Which was a movie that portrayed a very moderate nuclear exchange. One we had no reason to believe would happen but I think the producers of the movie needed a world still around after, a semblance of one, to at least tell the story in the movie.
At its height in 1987 America alone had 2,000 launch vehicles able to deliver almost 14,000 warheads. And this is just ICBMs, Bombers, and SLBMs. The Soviets had 2535 launch vehicles and 11,000 nuclear warheads, "again just ICBMs, Bombers, and SLBMs. This isnt even including IRBMs in Europe, or Jabos with their gravity weapons. The F4 Phantom was able to deliver a B61 nuke that blew at 340 kt "Hiroshima was 16 kt".
So if the movie told the story of what actually would have happened it would have been a very short movie. The end of the human race, maybe all life on earth, was just one phone call away back then.