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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: GA on October 24, 2001, 07:00:00 AM
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* Hwo is the best of thees and why!!
* And is one of thees the best B & Z plane in here!, if not who is it then, and why!
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tour 14(190d9 introduced to ah)
The Fw 190D-9 has 525 kills and has been killed 375 times against the P-51D.
tour 15
The Fw 190D-9 has 269 kills and has been killed 180 times against the P-51D.
tour 16
The Fw 190D-9 has 347 kills and has been killed 266 times against the P-51D.
tour 17
The Fw 190D-9 has 251 kills and has been killed 191 times against the P-51D.
tour 18
The Fw 190D-9 has 299 kills and has been killed 242 times against the P-51D.
tour 19
The Fw 190D-9 has 400 kills and has been killed 271 times against the P-51D.
tour 20
The Fw 190D-9 has 408 kills and has been killed 308 times against the P-51D.
Tour 21
The Fw 190D-9 has 313 kills and has been killed 219 times against the P-51D.
clearly the 190d9 is superior
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Ok i gett the point ;)
Thx :)
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Thats not proof though.... more inexperienced pilots will fly 51s.
There are pilots in ah who fly 51s and are untouchable.
The same can be said about 190d9 pilots.
My Squadmate Urchin is 22 to 4 or so in p51 this tour. He did that just screwing around.
p51 is a deadly plane.
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D9 flown correctly is a very dangerous ride...just like many other rides in AH...ain't the plane, it's the pilot.
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They are too close to call. Pretty even in most areas. D-9 climbs a little better, P-51 turns a little better. P-51D is easier to aim, but D-9 guns have a lot more punch. I'll give it to the P-51D because it has much better fuel endurance which allows the pilot to climb very high and choose where on the map he wants to fight. But like Rude said, the pilot is the main thing with a matchup like this.
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p-51 also has a more fragile damage model.
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i would say the its too close to call, with greater pilot skill being the modifier in the dora v p51 matchup.
g10 vs p51 i would have to go with the g10 any day baby :)
g10 v dora again i would go with the g10.
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I'd go with the Dora
I can fly the Pony much better, but for some reason, I can get more kills per sortie in the Dora.. I find it to be more of a fighter.
And the guns in the Dora are great, dont listen to the whiners, dora has GREAT guns, I like them much more than the 6x.50
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Pony dives better, since that is the primary attack we are talking about for either I give the pony the nod.
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The guns in the Pony are really easy to make contact with... the shotgun effect. The roll rate on the Dora is nice, turn rate on the 51 is nice... they are both great rides.
Dora wins because it doesn't have that weenie red/white/blue paint job ;)
I want that nice olive/silver paint from the 352nd!!!
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I haven't flown the P-51D much, but I found the P-51B to be an excellent plane against 190s.
AKDejaVu
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Neither is the best. The best is the A6M :D .
Although some pilots in any plane will take you behind the woodshed and give you a thorough arse whipping. So like most any plane it depends on the person flying in and how patient or impatient they are with it.
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i gotta go with the pony...i took up both the d9 and the pony today and i totally kicked bellybutton with it. i took up the d9 3 times and only got like 5 kills total. i took up the pony probably 5 times and got at least 3 - 4 kill's per sortie. ponyD all the way. but of course....im a .50cal fan so maybe that has something to do with my decision :rolleyes:
[ 10-24-2001: Message edited by: pimpjoe ]
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I think the D9 vs Pony stats are a little skewed since a lot of new pilots fly the P-51. With two equally experienced pilots flying, I think it would be a tossup. I actually like both planes.. but the wierd thing is the P-51 actually 'feels more like a fighter' to me. Maybe it is because I'm not used to it, and don't really know what it can and can't do against other planes (like I do with the Dora), but I either fly the P-51 more aggressively than the Dora or people are flying more passively around me (when I'm in the Dora). I think the P-51 turns better to, if it doesn't it sure feels like it does. Of course, that makes me question how the hell I manage to turn with P-51's when I'm IN a Dora, but I'm not gonna worry about that right now.
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In this matchup, I'd have to go with the P-47. :D
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S!
I fly the 190 quite a bit, (not so much this tour) and I think it is a great plane. The guns are way underrated, 250rpg for the cannon is a LOT. I think it kills bombers just as well as just about anything.
The one thing that I fear the most in the D9 though is a P-51 with some speed. If one of those shows up, I know I`m in trouble.
Reverse that, and the P-51 in my opinion has a better chance of evading.
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P-51D is my choice.
Wing up, Get kills, Be happy!
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when i sober up; the pony. lately; the dora.
*hic*
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Ill put my money on miss D anytime(but im a 190guy),,,also you can spot the p51 from
a pretty long distance(either its a p51 or a b17),and then the colours look a bit gayish to me :D
Dawvgrid
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Originally posted by Sancho:
In this matchup, I'd have to go with the P-47. :D
lol
I here ya sancho, totaly agree :cool:
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The Dora does everything better, but to get outta town.
It's a stable gun platform with at least cannon. Although they just don't hit like I want them to. Pry realistic, but i dont care, more hit damn it! (Oh and fix the engine damage, that's a tad annoying but it's so good i don't ever squeak much)
I find the P51 VERY hard to fly. Seriously.
Im guessing it's because the FW190's are like trains nailed to the tracks. Stable, fun, fast, and with speed do what ya need.
Gimme Hangtime as a wingman in a P51, this Dora SHINES suckas! And that is a fact.
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they are the same in one respect.. neither should be in a mostly mid war arena.
lazs
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I never have much problem with D9s or G10s in a pony. Occasional G6 will give me fits, but 1v1 against any 190 or G10, I love my chances.
Nim/Larry
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Make me a Spit in your "Mid-war" ideal and Ill run it like a Dora Laz.
Right until I dive down with E and turn.
Ya don't want that pain, unless you a BiShit of course.
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If the match keeps fast, both planes are more or less equally effective. If the fight slows down, Dora will outaccelerate the P51 and will, probably, win the duel.
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Big thx guys!
Im overwhelm with your replyes <S>
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creamo... got no problem with spits.
lazs
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1 on 1 I would take 190D..Use it's much superior climb rate and rope that 'Stang!!..But I prefer the p51 in MA cause it has soul man.. :)