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Title: argentina and top gear
Post by: zack1234 on October 04, 2014, 03:05:23 AM
Is Argentina a third world country?. :old:
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: jeep00 on October 04, 2014, 04:52:10 AM
Is Argentina a third world country?. :old:
I still can't figure out who decided what it means since no one ever mentions a second world country.
What has Jeremy said this time to create another international incident lmao
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: zack1234 on October 04, 2014, 05:12:28 AM
He said Argentina cannot win wars and it is full SS cowards who ran off after the war

A bit harsh but historically true :old:
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Serenity on October 04, 2014, 05:28:32 AM
I still can't figure out who decided what it means since no one ever mentions a second world country.
What has Jeremy said this time to create another international incident lmao

First world countries are allied with America. Second world countries were aligned with the Soviet Union. Third world countries had no alliance. It's a term dating back to the cold war.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Fish42 on October 04, 2014, 06:53:31 AM
I still can't figure out who decided what it means since no one ever mentions a second world country.
What has Jeremy said this time to create another international incident lmao

From what I have read, Neither the Cast or the Crew did anything intentionally.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/angry-mob-chases-jeremy-clarkson-and-top-gear-crew-out-of-argentina/story-fnb64oi6-1227080077765?nk=cc12fc3c09e67bbb723c2cb966332f29

Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: zack1234 on October 04, 2014, 07:35:55 AM
They are not admitting what clarkeson said :old:
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: jeep00 on October 04, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
First world countries are allied with America. Second world countries were aligned with the Soviet Union. Third world countries had no alliance. It's a term dating back to the cold war.

Cool, thank you.  :aok
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: jeep00 on October 04, 2014, 07:51:20 AM
From what I have read, Neither the Cast or the Crew did anything intentionally.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/angry-mob-chases-jeremy-clarkson-and-top-gear-crew-out-of-argentina/story-fnb64oi6-1227080077765?nk=cc12fc3c09e67bbb723c2cb966332f29



Lol once again. There was one episode filmed in the states where they got chased out of Alabama for certain things they painted on each other's cars. They have a certain knack for this stuff.....
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 04, 2014, 07:52:18 AM
Lol once again. There was one episode filmed in the states where they got chased out of Alabama for certain things they painted on each other's cars. They have a certain knack for this stuff.....

Things that appear on Top Gear are not necessarily all true. Disclaimer.  :devil
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: jeep00 on October 04, 2014, 08:48:45 AM
Things that appear on Top Gear are not necessarily all true. Disclaimer.  :devil

Wait......you mean that cow wasn't really already dead?
And yes, much editing does occur in all episodes. Still funny as hell though.  :aok
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: pipz on October 04, 2014, 10:27:13 AM
Viva Islas Malvinas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :old:

Hiel!
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Rob52240 on October 04, 2014, 10:41:10 AM
(http://crazyhyena.com/imagebank/g/i_dont_understand_bus_lanes_why_do_poor_people_have_to_get_to_places_quicker_than_i_do_by_jeremy_clarkson.jpg)
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: danny76 on October 04, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
They're not such a bad lot really, except for the chaps that chain whole families together and sling them out of helicopters into the sea.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: danny76 on October 04, 2014, 12:27:53 PM
From what I have read, Neither the Cast or the Crew did anything intentionally.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/angry-mob-chases-jeremy-clarkson-and-top-gear-crew-out-of-argentina/story-fnb64oi6-1227080077765?nk=cc12fc3c09e67bbb723c2cb966332f29



Unintentionally took a car with the registration number tantamount to 1982 Falklands :old: :rofl
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: zack1234 on October 04, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
Savages
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: mthrockmor on October 04, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
At the turn of the last century Argentina was one of the wealthiest countries on the earth. This is 1900s. From there they devolved into a nanny state with horribly align fiscal and monetary policies. Many economic historians teach the folly of Argentina that has turned it into a basket case internationally. Just recently a Federal Court grant the motion of US plantiffs against Argentinian assets relative to their latest default. Argentina now defaults almost as much as my cousin Leroy, and for about the same amount of money. Usually $5-$10. In fact, the whole Falklands War was nothing more than a distraction from another round of defaults. General Mickey Mouse wanted to focus the nations attention on the Malvinas and not the horrible economic state of his latest reforms.

Apparently, redistribution of wealth, even the kind that takes place over time via inflation, doesn't work. America is in the process of learning the lessons of Argentian, mostly because we've refused to learn from them. Ah...the fate of empires.

boo
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Canspec on October 04, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
During the Falklands war Zack was found by reporters marching up and down his street wearing a kilt and playing the bagpipes in a truly patriotic fervor. His support was duly noted by certain royals who then invited him for tea. :old:
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Swoop on October 04, 2014, 02:07:43 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11137879/Jeremy-Clarkson-stoned-as-Top-Gear-crew-abandon-cars-and-flee-Argentina.html

Well it's a bit of an over reaction if you ask me, however, I'm afraid I just don't believe that no-one noticed H982 FKL during pre-production and that it was a coincidence.  But the reaction of Argentina....I mean, good grief Penfold.

"Local councillor Juan Manuel Romano said the digits 269 on the number plate of the Ford Mustang Mustang Richard Hammond was driving were close to the 255 Britons killed during the 1982 war.
He added that the numbers 646 on James May's Lotus could be taken as a reference to the 649 Argentinian casualties."

Bit of a stretch if you ask me.  What is it with other countries and patriotism?  I mean, we're a patriotic country, just the other day I was chatting up a Spanish bird and couldn't not say "If you want Gibralta back, come and take it." - I didn't pull btw - but when we have the mickey taken out of our fallen empire, we laugh along with the rest of you.  How come other countries take it all so personally?  

The numberplate is an excuse to slash Clarksons tyres every night he's in the country, not gather a mob of 2,000 war veterans (hmmm, 20 year old(ish) Falklands veterens eh?) to stone the film crew.  Clarkson has tweeted he's convinced the mob was state organised.  
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Kenne on October 04, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
old world=Europe
new world= America
third world= everything else.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Fish42 on October 04, 2014, 03:23:31 PM
old world=Europe
new world= America
third world= everything else.

Yeah, not correct.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Rob52240 on October 04, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
old world=Europe
new world= America
third world= everything else.

Wrong.

I also must have read the same article as swoop.  I believe that the powers that be in Argentina are attacking the show to build political capitol.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Swoop on October 05, 2014, 07:36:05 AM
Clarkson has tweeted:  For the only accurate account of what happened in Argentina, read the Sunday Times today.

I'm trying to muster up the enthusiasm to go buy a copy but it's Sunday and I wasn't planning on getting up...
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 05, 2014, 07:46:25 AM
As Boo notes, it was not always so. The default goes back to '03 or so. Witness the wonders of socialism; promoting the power of the state even as it impoverishes and enfeebled it.

As for Christine, despite the media adulation, she is much hated now. I note that my own company has reasons ( I will say no more) to take A dim view and that my friends in Brazil laugh pretty loudly at the two exchange rates ( the real or black market rate and the official rate promoted by the Kirchner witch to artificially support her failing currency) and consider the current government there to be of numbered days.

But there is a contingent that loves enabling dysfunction that seems to love her...

As for Jezza, Viva Clarkson -and may he punch the ace hat Piers Morgan again and again and again!!!
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: zack1234 on October 05, 2014, 08:08:54 AM
You cannot polish turds

You cannot force people to work if they are bone idle and wont admit to it

What is this socialism gibberish your barking on about?. (Tin foil hat nonsense)

These countries are backward because they are lazy and ignorant :old:

If you cannot speak English there is a good change your a peasant

Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 05, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
Laziness and ignorance is a universal trait, zack. The source of differentiation therefore must lie elsewhere.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Vulcan on October 05, 2014, 05:35:06 PM
Not much respect for argies here, they were shining lasers into the eyes of aussie players during the rugby game this weekend. Normally I don't stick up for aussies, but them argies are a pack of w**kers.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 05, 2014, 06:44:07 PM
Well, here, I owe a better explanation to Zack, who is both possibly keen or obtuse.

He is entirely correct to say the problem isn't specifically socialism. Indeed, the problem is a good deal more specific; the Argentine government spent far more money than it could hope to pay back and there were foreign financiers dumb enough to underwrite it. That said, I do not believe Argentina to be a land beset by any more than a fairly commonplace frequency of ignorance and laziness. The real problem for average Argentines, apart from a globally and frequently noted tendency to be obtrusive, overbearing, and annoying ( not crimes in and of themselves) is that they were dumb enough to elect a government that wracked up a hefty f'in fee. That government has defaulted on this debt, a kind of mixed blessing for the citizenry but a real disaster in some other ways ( eg, try that trick twice...).

Coming back around to the point of departure, yes, it is entirely possible for a government to overspend withou being specifically socialist... But, in Argentine under either Kirchner, there were both...
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Scherf on October 05, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
I really struggle to believe that Jeremy Clarkson, of all people, is some kind of misunderstood innocent who just happened to have a potentially inflammatory number plate on his car.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Vulcan on October 05, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
I really struggle to believe that Jeremy Clarkson, of all people, is some kind of misunderstood innocent who just happened to have a potentially inflammatory number plate on his car.

Problem is the plate īn question never saw the light of day in argentina.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Scherf on October 05, 2014, 10:48:12 PM
Where ever he was, he was in South America with a stupid license plate. What did he expect would happen?

You might think they had learned their lesson after the whole redneck incident, stupid is as stupid does I guess.

The whole thing is on a par with the idiots who broadcast spoof names for the KAL crash crew.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 05, 2014, 11:56:55 PM
You cannot polish turds

Sorry mythbusters proved this one as a myth. Turds can be polished.  :noid
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Fish42 on October 06, 2014, 03:33:30 AM
Where ever he was, he was in South America with a stupid license plate. What did he expect would happen?

You might think they had learned their lesson after the whole redneck incident, stupid is as stupid does I guess.

The whole thing is on a par with the idiots who broadcast spoof names for the KAL crash crew.

Most people in the rest of South America could care less about the plates, but when a picture of the cars early in their trip (day 2) showed up on Twitter, and someone posted that it might be linked to the war, they removed them, miles away from any Argentina boarder. It had not been picked up until that point that a group of numbers on the license plate that had been registered in 2001, could line up with a war from 30 years ago, which involved one of the many countries they were driving through.


Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Scherf on October 06, 2014, 03:59:04 AM
I don't doubt the rest of South America couldn't care less about the war. I do believe Top Gear was trying it on, same as with the Man Love slogans in the American South.
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 06, 2014, 05:24:19 AM
I don't doubt the rest of South America couldn't care less about the war. I do believe Top Gear was trying it on, same as with the Man Love slogans in the American South.

Number 1 - I saw that episode and its unclear to me exactly what happened and whether or not it was contrived. I suspect the latter - or at least exaggerated.

The car said "Man Love is Okay" (or something like that, IIRC) in big pink letters. That's pretty hilarious, imj. The Hillary Clinton for President sign was probably more inflammatory.

In any case, I guess I don't really care if he gets attacked or not. I like Clarkson and find this method of entertainment kind of hilarious. If he wracks up some kind of personal problem for it, I'd tell him he was being a good soldier, doing his job, taking one for the team.

We should have more of the same. Indeed, on "Almost Royal" "Georgie Carlton" (an actor) almost runs afoul of an inner city mofo who threaten him and calls him an a-hole. That's good stuff.  :D
Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Swoop on October 06, 2014, 06:09:12 AM
Go on, someone fly over here and register a car with the plate I776LIB....or I776USA or something.

Please note:  You will probably not be pelted with stones and chased from the country by a mob of 2,000 war veterans....or if you are then you can rest assured the veterans will be actual veterans that we dug up for the occasion.

Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: Rob52240 on October 06, 2014, 06:15:48 AM
Number 1 - I saw that episode and its unclear to me exactly what happened and whether or not it was contrived. I suspect the latter - or at least exaggerated.

The car said "Man Love is Okay" (or something like that, IIRC) in big pink letters. That's pretty hilarious, imj. The Hillary Clinton for President sign was probably more inflammatory.

In any case, I guess I don't really care if he gets attacked or not. I like Clarkson and find this method of entertainment kind of hilarious. If he wracks up some kind of personal problem for it, I'd tell him he was being a good soldier, doing his job, taking one for the team.

We should have more of the same. Indeed, on "Almost Royal" "Georgie Carlton" (an actor) almost runs afoul of an inner city mofo who threaten him and calls him an a-hole. That's good stuff.  :D

NASCAR SUCKS was what really sent them over the edge according to either James or Richard.

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Title: Re: argentina and top gear
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on October 06, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Ah, yes... May's beater -which he stupidly bragged about ( having a functioning ac). It was May who wrote on Hammond's pickup: Man love rules ok... He should've gone further, something like man on man ace sects rule or something equally vile. Still, hilarious... I thought it was really funny when they put the sun block on Mary's face in the outline of a wiener with sac. That's a classic stunt.