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Title: Comp specs
Post by: BowHTR on October 05, 2014, 08:03:06 AM
At about what settings would this system run AH?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-series-16gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive/5832053.p?id=1219165147101&skuId=5832053&st=pcmcat287600050002_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=1&lp=7 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-series-16gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive/5832053.p?id=1219165147101&skuId=5832053&st=pcmcat287600050002_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=1&lp=7)
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Bizman on October 05, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
Truth to be said, it's a mediocre gaming rig. The processor might do well enough, but both it and the video card are from the lower half of their series. Upgrading wouldn't be cheap, as one of the reviewing customers said the PSU is only 300W. For the same price you could build a much more capable rig.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 05, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
Truth to be said, it's a mediocre gaming rig. The processor might do well enough, but both it and the video card are from the lower half of their series. Upgrading wouldn't be cheap, as one of the reviewing customers said the PSU is only 300W. For the same price you could build a much more capable rig.

When I saw the section 'customers who bought this also bought' I expected to see some hemp rope and lube lol.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Rob52240 on October 05, 2014, 03:19:44 PM
I spec'd 2 budget rigs that should run AH pretty doggone good.

The experts will know better though

A little more expensive but much better performance
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1GDW1W
Nvidia 750 with 2 gigs of memory
Intel Core i7 3.6 ghz cpu
8 gigs of 2130Mhz Ram

A little more expensive than the rig linked above
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1GDW1M\
Nvidia 750 with 2 gigs of memory
Intel I5 3.5 ghz cpu
16 gigs 1866Mhz Ram


Either link will open the appropriate configurator, you can play with any of the options for any of the components in the tower.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: BowHTR on October 05, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
Any good suggestions for around 700? 700 is is about my max.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Rob52240 on October 05, 2014, 07:37:30 PM
Any good suggestions for around 700? 700 is is about my max.

I've got a tower with fans that I'd be willing to donate to the cause. I'd eat the freight.

It's one of these.
http://www.apevia.com/productsInfo.asp?KEY=X-TSJST-BK
(http://www.apevia.com/images/products/X-TSJST-BK-1_500.jpg)
(http://www.apevia.com/images/products/X-TSJST-BK-8_500.jpg)

You'd have to order a power supply, motherboard/cpu/cooler/ram HD/SSD and videocard.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Rob52240 on October 05, 2014, 07:53:05 PM
If he got this computer

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1652101

And added this videocard would he need anything else?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025

I didn't see a cpu cooler in the first bundle.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 05, 2014, 11:42:47 PM
I could build the computer ready for him if you werent overseas.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Bizman on October 06, 2014, 09:56:51 AM
Rob, you didn't calculate any operating system in your suggestions. I believe the OP would need one since it was included in his first post.

Neat tower. I've never actually understood the meaning of a front door panel, but that's just my opinion.

For what it's worth, it looks like Cyberpower might not be the cheapest place to buy things and their sortiment is quite small. OTOH if they build the compilation for the price, it might be worth it.

And yet another edit: BowHTR, do you have anything you could use for the new build to cut costs? Especially the operating system would help a lot concerning your budget.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Rob52240 on October 06, 2014, 09:58:07 AM
Good point. 
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: morfiend on October 06, 2014, 10:37:08 AM
Any good suggestions for around 700? 700 is is about my max.


  Bow,

  Check out NCIX. com,they sell complete builds,parts,custom builds,etc. if you're not comfortable building a comp yourself,they will build and test run the system for a nominal charge.Although you will need to buy an OS for them to run the test!

   They price match and are competive with newegg,tiger,etc.

  I've gotten several computers from them,the offer call in trouble shooting and seem to do a reasonable job at pleasing the customer.

   They may just a ready built "gamer" unit in that price range,it sure wont hurt to look!


      :salute
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Bizman on October 06, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Just for a finger practice I compiled this set, likely to run AH quite well with decent eye candy. $10 can be cut out here and there by choosing an Intel reference cooler or slower memory, or even a lesser quality PSU, each of which would be saving pennies in a wrong place. On the other hand it also has some upgrading potential, getting a better processor might give a boost when the budget allows. Also, I calculated a case although in this case the case will come from a generous donator.  :salute

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxzY23 (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxzY23)
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxzY23/by_merchant/ (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxzY23/by_merchant/)

CPU: Intel Core i3-4370 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Atlas ATX-295WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $710.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 11:35 EDT-0400
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: BowHTR on October 07, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
Which of the 2 would be better for running AH?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-assassin-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/1625443.p?id=1219058145553&skuId=1625443&st=pcmcat143400050013_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=2&lp=11 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-assassin-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/1625443.p?id=1219058145553&skuId=1625443&st=pcmcat143400050013_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=2&lp=11)

or

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i5-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/5574058.p?id=1219143550894&skuId=5574058&st=pcmcat287600050002_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=5&lp=14 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i5-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/5574058.p?id=1219143550894&skuId=5574058&st=pcmcat287600050002_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=5&lp=14)
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: ebfd11 on October 07, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
They both are nice I like the one with the one in the NZXT case as it has awesome airflow and is a sturdy case. The only thing is it doesn't say what type of mother board it has.. and the video card is lower tier type and might give you problems later down the line. With a little saving you will be able to upgrade you vid card and maybe your PSU and have that system last a long time/

LanwDart
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 07, 2014, 10:56:24 PM
They both are nice I like the one with the one in the NZXT case as it has awesome airflow and is a sturdy case. The only thing is it doesn't say what type of mother board it has.. and the video card is lower tier type and might give you problems later down the line. With a little saving you will be able to upgrade you vid card and maybe your PSU and have that system last a long time/

LanwDart

He should contact an independent computer store and ask them to custom build a computer with proper parts for him if he can't build it himself. Thats the only way to get a ready computer without being ripped off.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Bizman on October 08, 2014, 05:59:20 AM
Rob, they both would run the current version of AH at a decent level. Some observations, though: Neither of them tells what brand, power and quality the power supply might be. With an ElCheapo you might fry your entire computer right after the warranty period is over! As ebfd11 said, there's no information about the motherboards either, but IMO that's not as big a problem as the PSU unless you're planning to upgrade or overclock.

Since you seem to have raised your budget by some $200, here's an updated list for a decent gamer built with decent or better quality parts:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZLQ6K8 (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZLQ6K8)
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZLQ6K8/by_merchant/ (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZLQ6K8/by_merchant/)

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($236.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $891.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 06:56 EDT-0400

If you don't want to or can't build it by yourself, do as MrRipley suggested. Ask a local builder shop do it for you using parts you/we/they know are of sufficient quality.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: DaddyAce on October 08, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
Hey guys.  This site provides specs for homemade gaming puters, check out the "very good" and "great" for under $700.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: BowHTR on October 11, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
Ended up getting a Asus with i7-4790s, DDR3 12GB, Nvidia GeForce GTX750 1G, HDD 2TB. Runs all settings maxed out at 1600X900
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: BowHTR on October 11, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Ended up getting a Asus with i7-4790s, DDR3 12GB, Nvidia GeForce GTX750 1G, HDD 2TB. Runs all settings maxed out at 1600X900

Whoops, almost maxed out. I have the full update slider just below half way.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Gard06 on October 17, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
this system seems very interesting:
 Alienware X51
$699.00

4th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-4150 Processor (Dual Core, 3MB Cache, up to 3.5GHz)
Windows 8.1
8GB Memory
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 745 with 4GB DDR3

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51-r2/pd.aspx


Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: Bizman on October 17, 2014, 09:42:20 AM
No, it doesn't. If you inspect the video card closer you'd notice that it's an entry level card with lots of slow memory. GDDR3 hasn't been used in serious gaming video cards since 2008. For what I learned in a quick glimpse through Google, it looks like the 4 GB version is tailored to some OEM manufacturers to make cheap builds look good for less savvy customers. The card only uses 45 W so they can save in the power supply unit, too.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 17, 2014, 11:02:40 AM
No, it doesn't. If you inspect the video card closer you'd notice that it's an entry level card with lots of slow memory. GDDR3 hasn't been used in serious gaming video cards since 2008. For what I learned in a quick glimpse through Google, it looks like the 4 GB version is tailored to some OEM manufacturers to make cheap builds look good for less savvy customers. The card only uses 45 W so they can save in the power supply unit, too.

It's not even the expensive GDDR it's DDR lol. That card is a 15 dollar card.
Title: Re: Comp specs
Post by: guncrasher on October 17, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
this system seems very interesting:
 Alienware X51
$699.00

4th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-4150 Processor (Dual Core, 3MB Cache, up to 3.5GHz)
Windows 8.1
8GB Memory
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 745 with 4GB DDR3

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51-r2/pd.aspx


it's really a waste of money.   you will play at minimum settings if that.

semp