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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vermillion on June 24, 2000, 12:23:00 PM
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I put together a chart of the max speed versus altitude of the nine fastest aircraft in AH. The data comes from the individual charts listed in the AH help pages. Except for the P-47D, which comes from America's Hundred Thousand.
Its quite useful to compare aircraft.
(http://web.mountain.net/~arringto/temp/speedchart.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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Nice work Verm,
One question, you didn't include the C.205, yet I've found it to be faster than the La5.
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Good job vermillon, thx.
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It is an excellent comparison chart...many thanks.
Many of the a/c have a 'saw-tooth' as altitude increases...why is that?
Andy
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Andy, because engine output varies with altitude. The saw tooth usually indicated a mechanical two-stager blower, which will kick in at specific altitudes
Daff
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CO, 56th Fighter Group
"This is Yardstick. Follow me"
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Ghost I threw the La5fn in at the last second because it is fast (relatively) down low on the deck.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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Nice work Vermillion.
I don't see the P-38 or Spitfire MkIX on it though. It looks like those would be faster than some of the aircraft on the list.
Sisu
-Karnak
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So Daff,
Now that the Jug is here ya gonna come play with us? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sharky
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Nice work Vermillion.
I don't see the P-38 or Spitfire MkIX on it though. It looks like those would be faster than some of the aircraft on the list.
Sisu
-Karnak
From the looks of it the P-38 speed-altitude curve is very similiair to that of the P-47. However; the P-38 is quite a bit slower near the deck.
ASL the P-38 is 340 while the P-47 is 355. They each have similiar top end speeds at 25k with the P-38 at 420 and the P-47 at 425.
HTC has not put up the Spit IX curve yet.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"I kinda like it.. and the hell with the cat"
Hangtime
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Wow....
Oustanding work...
Thank you very much...
Regards,
Badger
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The P-47D-30 in AH does about 340mph @S/L up to 430mph @30k, dropping to 400mph @35k.
And your Fw 190A-8 line is way off, oops. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Hmm, is there something wrong with FW190 A-5?
Isn't A-5 supposed to fly 420-425mph instead of that lousy 405mph.
hey, its not A-8, thats A-8's speed and then we come to wonder whys A-8 going below 405.
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Hey, I can't resist!
The 109G10 is "OVERMODELED"
It's an LW Conspiracy!
(I suppose this means the arena will be full of em now.) (http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1/seg.gif)
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Originally posted by Downtown:
Hey, I can't resist!
The 109G10 is "OVERMODELED"
It's an LW Conspiracy!
(I suppose this means the arena will be full of em now.)
If you give the 109G10 more stability and SpitIX's turning, sure the MA will be full of them.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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WTF ? the 109g-10 is faster than everything above 4k by quite a margine . Is this accurate ?
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Wheres the niki?
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Guys I did the chart for my own purposes, and I fly BnZ planes, so I was looking at the faster aircraft.
Planes like the N1K2, Spitfire, P-38, or the C.205 are generally slower than the planes on the chart so I didn't include them.
It takes alot of work to put it together, and would double my time investment to inlcude the planes I already knew didn't do what I want them too do. Plus the chart was already becoming very cluttered, without adding another 10 planes or so.
If anyone wants it, I can send them the file I used to create the chart so they can include their favorite plane. Just email me.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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There you go Juzz, I fixed the 190A8 for you. It had the right max speed, just at the wrong altitude in the spreadsheet.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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Yes Suave. It was a good hi alt buff interceptor and murder against an "asleep at the stick" fighter. Just don't try to turn one as it doesn't do that well at all and if you dive, well open your canopy and punch out cause your about to be a P-51 or P-47 snack.
-Westy
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Vermillion, did you use the WEP-on speeds for your chart, true ?
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Yes Naso, all speeds are WEP if the plane is equpped with it.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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Ok, so this graph is valid for 5 mins (10 for fw190), if you can prepare kindly a new one with no-wep only speeds, i think we will have some surprise. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I explain myself...
In merge the wep speed is a correct way to understand the evade window (speed based) each plane have, but after a fierce fight, or in a furball, usually the planes have used up their wep time, and when they decide to run they have the only option to dive and level at their best speed altitude.
In this case, become more decisive the off-wep speed, to maintain for long run home and escape pursuits (or pursuit escapers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)).
In this case the huge difference between wep and no-wep speeds in some plane (aka me-109g10), make THE difference.
believe me, the graph will look lot different. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
YAK YAK YAK!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Yeah, I would love to see a no-wep chart.
The 109G-10/K is infamous for its ample WEP in real life...but without WEP it is inferior in almost every way to it's Allied enemies (according the the interviews and war diary excepts I have read anyway).