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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: xPoisonx on October 20, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
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Four dozen people who had contact with the original Ebola patient in Dallas will complete a three-week watch period on Monday with no sign any of them has contracted the virus :aok
Please please please keep politics out of this the last thread was very interesting.
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well you have the wrong info because 2 actually are sick from ebola.
semp
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Thats why I put a :aok
They literally just said it on local news lol idk if its true or not.
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well you have the wrong info because 2 actually are sick from ebola.
semp
The news reports were referring to the family and friends Duncan came in contact with, not the nurses that didn't use proper protocols that resulted in them being infected by the virus.
ack-ack
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The news reports were referring to the family and friends Duncan came in contact with, not the nurses that didn't use proper protocols that resulted in them being infected by the virus.
ack-ack
his first post didnt mention anything about news reports only that 4 dozen people that came in contact werent infected. that's why I mentioned that 2 were actually infected.
semp
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Ebola has been confirmed in Milwaukee, WI.
Oh yay.
http://feednewz.com/news/328943/ebola-confirmed-in-milwaukee-wi-80173
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Ebola has been confirmed in Milwaukee, WI.
Oh yay.
http://feednewz.com/news/328943/ebola-confirmed-in-milwaukee-wi-80173
With our beer supply threatened this is truly becoming dire.
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All I see confirmed on that link is that I'm the 59,330rd person to be trolled.
Really?
:headscratch:
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Meanwhile, country music group Florida Georgia Line cancels Dallas meet & greet with contest winners. Not the concert, just the meet & greet with people from around the region that won entry won thru local radio contests. Reason?
Ebola.
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My prediction is a cure (similarly already have one) but a complete cure to this in about the next 4-6 months. Many of the claimed people tested negative for it so far, while only 1 person has died from it in America after being diagnosed before hand. It simply hasnt been researched heavily because it is rare to catch. It is a 3rd world disease. I don't think it is really as scary of an epidemic as we all percieve it to be with our standards here in America.
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My prediction is a cure (similarly already have one) but a complete cure to this in about the next 4-6 months. Many of the claimed people tested negative for it so far, while only 1 person has died from it in America after being diagnosed before hand. It simply hasnt been researched heavily because it is rare to catch. It is a 3rd world disease. I don't think it is really as scary of an epidemic as we all percieve it to be with our standards here in America.
Agreed. Watch the Vice News documentary on it. Look Ebola +vice news on YouTube. The reason it so bad over become extremely clear. They are some brave reporters. Hope they make enough on their paycheck to make it worth it to go there :salute
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Agreed. Watch the Vice News documentary on it. Look Ebola +vice news on YouTube. The reason it so bad over become extremely clear. They are some brave reporters. Hope they make enough on their paycheck to make it worth it to go there :salute
Something's are not about pay. But I share your hope.
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The secondary infected health workers in America were saved by blood serum from the first overseas health worker that received an experimental drug. Blood serum is very expensive and in limited supply.
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Ebola has been confirmed in Milwaukee, WI.
Oh yay.
http://feednewz.com/news/328943/ebola-confirmed-in-milwaukee-wi-80173
... and in othe (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/809/306/886.jpg)r news... (http://i.imgur.com/XWr8Kr9.jpg)
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Too often, AH'er confirm the worst folks say about internet folks.
It is not funny. It is not cute.
Boo!!!
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the nurses that didn't use proper protocols that resulted in them being infected by the virus.
It wasn't the nurses' fault, they actually followed the protocol from the CDC but that initial protocol was flawed.
My prediction is a cure (similarly already have one) but a complete cure to this in about the next 4-6 months.
I doubt it.
They may have some success with antivirals (and with plasma of those that have antibodies), but it will be very difficult to prevent Ebola as it is a RNA virus that is prone to mutation. Our best bet is to contain it, educate the populace of the world on zoonotic diseases, and perfect better detection methods for the populace.
Ebola isn't a stable pathogen like Smallpox and will prove close to impossible to eradicate through conventional treatment alone.
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educate the populace of the world on zoonotic diseases
Wait - does this mean no more good time sheep?
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My prediction is a cure (similarly already have one) but a complete cure to this in about the next 4-6 months. Many of the claimed people tested negative for it so far, while only 1 person has died from it in America after being diagnosed before hand. It simply hasnt been researched heavily because it is rare to catch. It is a 3rd world disease. I don't think it is really as scary of an epidemic as we all percieve it to be with our standards here in America.
:huh
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The difference between US vs UK Ebola news coverage - Russell Howard's Good News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAz-F1QnyCk
:lol
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See Rule #14
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The difference between US vs UK Ebola news coverage - Russell Howard's Good News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAz-F1QnyCk
:lol
great find!!
thanks for post.
:lol :O :D :confused: :rolleyes: :uhoh :x
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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Whatever you do dont say whats a "Lie".
I'd hate to see your life complicated.
What's it like to not only lie, but post a link outlining the ways in which you're lying?
You bring up an important consideration, though. West Africa needs a lot more support, and we need to be encouraging doctors and health professionals to go to west Africa instead of making it an administrative nightmare and treating them like livestock when they return.
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British Airways has extended their suspension of flights to Liberia and Sierra Leone until 31 December.
Air France suspended flights to Sierra Leone from 28 August.
Australia has suspended the issuance of visas to travellers from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. Travellers from these countries who hold permanent visas can enter Australia if they have been quarantined for 21 days prior to arrival, while those who have received non-permanent visas and who have not departed for Australia will have their visas cancelled.
Lie n. an intentionally false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not wholly the truth
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See Rule #4
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The other day I was at the field when kids were playing. They were huddled up and then when they broke out of their huddle, they yelled EBOLAAAA.
Needless to say, they have not appreciated the severity, or they have exposed everybody's overreaction.
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See Rule #14
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It actually was meant to be comedy, not news.
Also your views on world immigration needs adjusting...
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/immigrationmap.JPG)
Color represent the balance of immigration/emigration; blue is people leaving, brown in people entering. Size of circles are the relative sizes of immigration/emigration. Russia for example has a lot of movement, but is fairly balanced between people leaving and people entering.
Maybe you didnt understand my statement. Try reading it again. Europe has no where near the illegal immigration problem we have
Understand "Illegal Immigration"?
As bad as the natural transmission of the virus is its nothing compared to what it will be when our enemies start weaponizing it. All you need is a willing terrorist with a passport. Since he/she is going to paradise anyway it shouldnt be hard to talk them into getting infected and then bouncing around the world wiping faucets after wiping their butts at INTL air ports in an attempt to "X" out all their enemies. Thats why the thought of ebola "always" being with us is so scary.
We havnt done enough. We "first world" should be pouring huge resources into these poor countries to fight this thing. Add to that its inhumane not to help these people more.
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Maybe you didnt understand my statement. Try reading it again. Understand "Illegal Immigration"?
Yes. Do you think these guys crossing the Med are "legal" immigrants?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/boatrefugeeslibya.jpg)
Southern Europe and Spain in particular has a huge illegal immigration problem.
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See Rule #14
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... I didnt watch this thing past the first minute, ....
... 'But let me flame you guys all for ....'
Chill out dude. It was a comedy piece that I (and by the looks of it, others as well) felt pretty much hit the spot. Namely, that in general, the US media is in panic mode and, that in general, the UK media is not.
I do not turn to comedy shows to get my "facts". However, as the ancient Greeks pointed out over 2,000 years ago, comedians (or as the Greeks would say, the poets), efficiently establish the boundaries of acceptable decent within societies. That is one reason why you need to pay attention to comedians.
As to some of your other points here and there, please try to respect other people's contributions. I do not want Skuzzy to pull out his Violations-O-Matic generator and shut this thread down. Stay within the grooming standards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nEFLKpknM4
Thank you.
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The news reports were referring to the family and friends Duncan came in contact with, not the nurses that didn't use proper protocols that resulted in them being infected by the virus.
ack-ack
ack-ack, you are wrong. The nurses did us proper protocols from the CDC . The fact is the protocols defined by the CDC were initially wrong. That's not the fault of the nurses that followed to the letter the protocols they were given. The protocols were later changed by the CDC.
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See Rule #5
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ack-ack, you are wrong. The nurses did us proper protocols from the CDC . The fact is the protocols defined by the CDC were initially wrong. That's not the fault of the nurses that followed to the letter the protocols they were given. The protocols were later changed by the CDC.
I thought that the changes in protocols had more to do with strengthening compliance than with anything else. i.e. a buddy system that is to be used in taking suits off. The nurses said that they had exposed skin around their throats and that management told them to wrap a cloth bandage around the exposures. That is the hospital and staff not following protocol.
I think it would be fairer to say that the weaker protocols were fortified.
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Ebola was reported in my very town.
Awesome....
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Meanwhile, country music group Florida Georgia Line cancels Dallas meet & greet with contest winners. Not the concert, just the meet & greet with people from around the region that won entry won thru local radio contests. Reason?
Ebola.
I wish they would have not cancelled it...god they are awful.
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Ebola was reported in my very town.
Awesome....
When??
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:huh :confused: Bad call:
Birmingham Ebola-party club apologises for theme night
:uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-29826245
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In other news, one of the ebola nurses went out for a bike ride today.
Thy media hath soiled thyself.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/30/theoretically-quarantined-nurse-who-treated-ebola-patients-goes-for-bike-ride/
What some people don't get about ebola is that it's spread through direct contact with it. You'd have to lick someone's poop or get some of their sweat/blood in your eyes or mouth. It's gonna be quite hard to contract ebola from another person in the US with the level of sanitation and health care that we have.
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When??
Just found out it was false.
Dude just had a flu.
It's easy to freak out thinkin you've got it since the early stage symptoms are like the average fever.
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I have a Ebola joke, but most of you wont get it.
:rock :salute
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It's easy to freak out thinkin you've got it since the early stage symptoms are like the average fever.
However it is stupid to do so if you haven't been in contact with an Ebola victim.
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Very happy news. Well done to all.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/11/11/health-ebola-usa-new-york-idINL2N0T10YT20141111 (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/11/11/health-ebola-usa-new-york-idINL2N0T10YT20141111)
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What some people don't get about ebola is that it's spread through direct contact with it. You'd have to lick someone's poop or get some of their sweat/blood in your eyes or mouth. It's gonna be quite hard to contract ebola from another person in the US with the level of sanitation and health care that we have.
These experts disagree with you:
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola
Given that health-care workers getting it is not rare, and that health-care workers supposedly know a lot more about protecting themselves than the average citizen, I wouldn't lightly dismiss the danger.
Also, here is the level of high-tech sanitation and cleanup we have had in the US (this being the cleanup of vomit in Dallas):
(http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/10/ebola_worker.png)
(http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/10/ebola_cleanup2-e1412356590787.jpg)
(http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/10/ebola_cleanup.jpg)
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I think that there will be at least two Ebola vaccines soon, but by "soon" it means several more months of small-scale testing, then will come the daunting task of vaccinating large numbers of Africans.
One is from Newlink (who acquired it from the Public Health Agency of Canada that developed it and already tested it in primates) and the other is from Glaxo. Those are the two that are farthest along and soonest to be out (if they work). Also, J&J and several other companies are working on vaccines as well.
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With our beer supply threatened this is truly becoming dire.
Not mine, my beer comes from Germany and the Netherlands.
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I think that there will be at least two Ebola vaccines soon, but by "soon" it means several more months of small-scale testing
What leads you to this conclusion?
edit: Allow me to rephrase that. How effective do you think a vaccine will be against a RNA virus? Even the flu vaccine is only effective between 50%-80% (depending on sources and the year) of the strains it has been engineered to defeat. Ebola will never be eradicated like Small Pox, no vaccine will ever defeat it as we must defeat it at the source.
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What leads you to this conclusion?
edit: Allow me to rephrase that. How effective do you think a vaccine will be against a RNA virus? Even the flu vaccine is only effective between 50%-80% (depending on sources and the year) of the strains it has been engineered to defeat. Ebola will never be eradicated like Small Pox, no vaccine will ever defeat it as we must defeat it at the source.
It depends on what mutates and if there are accessible conserved regions to the genome or proteins that are necessary for Ebola to function that can't be mutated, or the virus won't be viable anymore. My understanding is that, while Ebola mutates a lot, there are still conserved things to go after. We will get indications if either of the two leading candidates is effective probably within 6-12 months. They are already starting to pass Phase 1 human-safety tests. Next is to keep vaccinating people and do statistics on how many of them vs. unvaccinated people end up getting Ebola.
There might be a universal vaccine for flu one day, too. Currently, folks go after hemagglutinin, which is highly variable, but accessible. Folks could instead perhaps go for regions that are more conserved or perhaps conserved proteins on the surface of infected cells.
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So with the Ebola epidemic running rampant in the USA, how has it affected your everyday lives?
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So with the Ebola epidemic running rampant in the USA, how has it affected your everyday lives?
Lucky for you and me, DFW is currently considered Ebola free. I still wear my hazmat suit to Krogers, though.