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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dragon Tamer on October 27, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
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Writing a research paper on chemtrails has to be the worst. I'm having a hard time taking any of the sites supporting the theory seriously. It is quite amusing though to see what some people will try to pass off as definitive proof of chemtrail activity. :lol
Anyone know of any sites that support the chemtrail hoax? Preferably ones that at least look credible.
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You are on your own brother. Are you beginning to see why Skeptics giggle like hell at the idea of Chem Trails? There is nothing that even "looks" credible. Just hyperbole and super-excited personal opinion. Just get a picture of that Greek History Channel guy with the Babylon 5 hair subtitled, "It was Aliens", and hand that in. That would count as research in this particular field.
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DONE!
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On a serious note, a question came to mind while I was researching. I've seen photos of bombers and fighters creating contrails during WWII but their principal of operation was different to the jet engines that create them today. In WWII were the vapor trails created from the propellers or was it still a byproduct of engine combustion?
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I saw a suspicious looking cloud today. The government is clearly spraying chemicals into the air.
#Illuminati!
:noid
:lol
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#Illuminati!
That was also a possible topic for me to research. The list was;
2Pac lives
Living Elvis
Bigfoot
Haunted Eastern State Penitentiary
Loch Ness Monster
Subliminal Advertising (this could be real depending on your definition)
Bermuda Triangle
<Snip> (this one risks getting political)
<Snip> (same reason as above)
<Snip> (again, same reason)
<Snip> (more political BS)
Area 51/ aliens
Paul (McCartney) is dead
Illuminati
If you're really curious about the snipped one I can PM the actual list. I'm only snipping to avoid Skuzzification.
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In WWII were the vapor trails created from the propellers or was it still a byproduct of engine combustion?
Good man re. "research".
Byproduct of engine combustion. Burn hydrocarbons and you get CO2 and water vapour. And a bunch of other toxic stuff. It has to be -40C (or colder) for them to form, so 8000m or higher. 26,000ft for those of you stuck in a more arbitrary measurement system than the just as made up but more logically structured metric system.
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Need em in game...
Over 26000..not too many folks up there to overload pcs
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College papers for a long time now have been unfortunately in many cases writing for the professor and their point of view and social persuasion.
In my first go around I was a double major, one being in History. The paper I worked my hardest on, my last 400 level History class was on the War in Vietnam. I tried my darndest to justify US intervention on behalf of the sovereign S. Vietnam. I balanced the paper with US/world social tensions and the Red Scare; i.e. not that warmongering is a good thing and all of my sources cited either were ppl on the ground, government officials or professors, etc.
My professor would have none of it, he was on campus at CSU back then and watched/cheered students setting fire to the Annex; he gave me a B-.
Had I written an anti-US involvement in Vietnam paper, I'd more than likely received a much higher grade.
Think for yourself, write what your prof wants to read (if that's the kind you have; you should easily discern between the two types of profs).
If they want chemtrails exist and are a scary thing, give it to them and go on...
My .02
:salute
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College papers for a long time now have been unfortunately in many cases writing for the professor and their point of view and social persuasion.
In my first go around I was a double major, one being in History. The paper I worked my hardest on, my last 400 level History class was on the War in Vietnam. I tried my darndest to justify US intervention on behalf of the sovereign S. Vietnam. I balanced the paper with US/world social tensions and the Red Scare; i.e. not that warmongering is a good thing and all of my sources cited either were ppl on the ground, government officials or professors, etc.
My professor would have none of it, he was on campus at CSU back then and watched/cheered students setting fire to the Annex; he gave me a B-.
Had I written an anti-US involvement in Vietnam paper, I'd more than likely received a much higher grade.
Think for yourself, write what your prof wants to read (if that's the kind you have; you should easily discern between the two types of profs).
If they want chemtrails exist and are a scary thing, give it to them and go on...
My .02
:salute
Yeah man so true. I had an extremely liberal history Pol Sci teacher and I got Bs on all my papers except for the last paper which was basically about shaming Bush, I got a 100 on that. Needless to say I needed it.
Writing a research paper on chemtrails has to be the worst. I'm having a hard time taking any of the sites supporting the theory seriously. It is quite amusing though to see what some people will try to pass off as definitive proof of chemtrail activity. :lol
Anyone know of any sites that support the chemtrail hoax? Preferably ones that at least look credible.
While I do not know any credible sites. Start with this.
A. Go look up how weather and climate actually works, in dry and moist climates. The very last reply to the past chemtrial thread (a page or 2 back) that was just brought back. I have explained how chemtrials are unlikely to be perilous givin how our climate/weather work, also I compared them to volcanoes, which you should research about as well.
B. Volcanoes!! If one of these has a hard time effecting climate, with the hundreds of thousands of "chemicals" it shoots in the air, do you really think a chemtrial is gonna do anything?
C. By understanding weather and climate and how it functions, you can see why chemtrails are not very useful and thus would be a huge waste of time and money to "secretly" kill off Americans, or whatever they want you to think they are doing.
Like I said. Read the last post in that thread. It may help you to get ideas for researching actual science -weather/climate functions, instead of using some anti-chemtrial site writtin by some journalist.
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College papers for a long time now have been unfortunately in many cases writing for the professor and their point of view and social persuasion.
In my first go around I was a double major, one being in History. The paper I worked my hardest on, my last 400 level History class was on the War in Vietnam. I tried my darndest to justify US intervention on behalf of the sovereign S. Vietnam. I balanced the paper with US/world social tensions and the Red Scare; i.e. not that warmongering is a good thing and all of my sources cited either were ppl on the ground, government officials or professors, etc.
My professor would have none of it, he was on campus at CSU back then and watched/cheered students setting fire to the Annex; he gave me a B-.
Had I written an anti-US involvement in Vietnam paper, I'd more than likely received a much higher grade.
Think for yourself, write what your prof wants to read (if that's the kind you have; you should easily discern between the two types of profs).
If they want chemtrails exist and are a scary thing, give it to them and go on...
My .02
:salute
Luckily this class is all about our own opinions. It's a class on critical writing and analysis, so whatever I write, no matter the point of view, will be accepted as long as it's my own opinion. :aok
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That was also a possible topic for me to research. The list was;
2Pac lives
Living Elvis
Bigfoot
Haunted Eastern State Penitentiary
Loch Ness Monster
Subliminal Advertising (this could be real depending on your definition)
Bermuda Triangle
<Snip> (this one risks getting political)
<Snip> (same reason as above)
<Snip> (again, same reason)
<Snip> (more political BS)
Area 51/ aliens
Paul (McCartney) is dead
Illuminati
If you're really curious about the snipped one I can PM the actual list. I'm only snipping to avoid Skuzzification.
Dang, your professor has some serious issues if thats all you can write a paper on
How about an article about how to block the govt mind control for him too :rofl
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I thought chem trails were just for seeding the air so moisture would be moved from one air to another, to help with droughts and such. :headscratch:
What i find interesting about that list, is the truths behind each subject would be just as interesting as the myths.
"Area 51/aliens", i would say spy planes & nazi german immigrants.
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I thought chem trails were just for seeding the air so moisture would be moved from one air to another, to help with droughts and such. :headscratch:
What i find interesting about that list, is the truths behind each subject would be just as interesting as the myths.
"Area 51/aliens", i would say spy planes & nazi german immigrants.
Seeding the air in dry climates to make that large of an effect with water vapor is extremely difficult given the size of the earth.
There was a interesting documentary about UFOs floating around reddit recently. Its on YouTube.
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Rather write about that stuff than the great American poets of the 19th century.
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Dang, your professor has some serious issues if thats all you can write a paper on
How about an article about how to block the govt mind control for him too :rofl
Really good exercise in critical thinking and the OP has exhibited exactly the right response. There is no credible data supporting the premise. Whihc suddenly became the subject of the essay, right? :)
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Rather write about that stuff than the great American poets of the 19th century.
It's up to you to make any topic interesting for the poor bugger marking/reading it. Oddly enough, it has the effect of making it interesting for you.
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Thought mainland china just reactivated a WW2 Flying Tiger field just for 'seeding clouds'.....
JGroth
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So?
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LOL!
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Writing a research paper on chemtrails has to be the worst. I'm having a hard time taking any of the sites supporting the theory seriously. It is quite amusing though to see what some people will try to pass off as definitive proof of chemtrail activity. :lol
Anyone know of any sites that support the chemtrail hoax? Preferably ones that at least look credible.
:airplane: Only chemtrail I ever had any experience with, was a boy, plowing my granddaddys one eyed mule. I got the smell down pat! So if you find out anything, let me know and we will give the sniff tests!
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:lol
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Really good exercise in critical thinking and the OP has exhibited exactly the right response. There is no credible data supporting the premise. Whihc suddenly became the subject of the essay, right? :)
This is actually my midterm in the course, the idea is to pick a conspiracy theory and break it down into three parts. In the first part I analyze the theory and attempt to prove it's real (in this case prove that chemtrails are indeed happening). In the second part I analyze it again and attempt to prove that it's false (chemtrails are bogus, you're all insane... blah... blah... blah). In the last part I state where I stand on the issue and give reasons to support my position.
My professor was ecstatic when I suggested chemtrails, nobody has done that as a topic before.
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Very cool.
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This is actually my midterm in the course, the idea is to pick a conspiracy theory and break it down into three parts. In the first part I analyze the theory and attempt to prove it's real (in this case prove that chemtrails are indeed happening). In the second part I analyze it again and attempt to prove that it's false (chemtrails are bogus, you're all insane... blah... blah... blah). In the last part I state where I stand on the issue and give reasons to support my position.
My professor was ecstatic when I suggested chemtrails, nobody has done that as a topic before.
:airplane: Any chance you could share your findings and the paper as you turned it in to the Prof?
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You weren't stupid enough to date your brothers old GF and admit to her you knew her history....or were you??
JGroth
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:airplane: Any chance you could share your findings and the paper as you turned it in to the Prof?
Yes. Here is a link to the file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-PkxeKK5KfgVm5kSl9FNmRfczQ/view?usp=sharing
First part I try to create an argument to prove chemtrails are real.
Second part I try to create an argument to prove they are fake.
Last part is my stance on the issue and why I feel that way.
Work cited is the last page.
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what's this? beer for passengers? can you prove this is fake Photoshop? if not what's this for ?! :headscratch: :noid :banana:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Photos__Boeing_777_240_LR_Aircraft_6406cd04eab7f09728d63232fd45344c.jpg)
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_DSC01774_20120720_173751.jpg)
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground2forum.jpg)
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what's this? beer for passengers? can you prove this is fake Photoshop? if not what's this for ?! :headscratch: :noid :banana:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Photos__Boeing_777_240_LR_Aircraft_6406cd04eab7f09728d63232fd45344c.jpg)
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_DSC01774_20120720_173751.jpg)
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground2forum.jpg)
The exterior view and interior views are of different aircraft types, window shapes are not the same. Exterior view looks like a gulfstream 4-5 window to me.
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what's this? beer for passengers? can you prove this is fake Photoshop? if not what's this for ?! :headscratch: :noid :banana:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Photos__Boeing_777_240_LR_Aircraft_6406cd04eab7f09728d63232fd45344c.jpg)
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_DSC01774_20120720_173751.jpg)
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground2forum.jpg)
Hey now! That whole beer idear is quite brilliant :D
On the other hand. Who ever those people are who went through all the work to make all of that, while could be deemed intelligent for setting up such a system, are actually all flipping retards who have wasted so much money that it should be an embarrassment for all of them.
The fact that people think chemtrails would even slightly make a difference in the atmosphere, while even floating down to our level, to "hurt" us, is pretty hilarious.
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The exterior view and interior views are of different aircraft types, window shapes are not the same. Exterior view looks like a gulfstream 4-5 window to me.
I'm not saying is same plane, I just picked this photos from web; I've seen this pics before on different forums/You Tube subject to hot fun debates; I personally believe is Von Messa's brewery Airline ! :rock
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what's this? beer for passengers? can you prove this is fake Photoshop? if not what's this for ?! :headscratch: :noid :banana:
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Photos__Boeing_777_240_LR_Aircraft_6406cd04eab7f09728d63232fd45344c.jpg)
(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_DSC01774_20120720_173751.jpg)
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground2forum.jpg)
I only saw one of the pictures, not exactly sure what you are talking about... :headscratch:
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground2forum.jpg)
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Now I see them. Those barrels are filled with water for ballast testing. They pump water around between the barrels to simulate passengers walking around on the plane in flight.
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An interesting twist to the chemtrails paper would be to contrast the wild speculation about chemtrails to the mundane reality of water vapor in exhaust, and cloud seeding. Maybe a paragraph or three about the real controversies surrounding the real issue of cloud seeding might be a way to pad out the paper's length, and provide a real issue to opine about. Sort of like... "While the imaginary world of chemtrails with its government and corporate conspiracies is an attractive fantasy, the real issues surrounding the practice of cloud seeding are far more interesting. The sometimes secret practice of cloud seeding really does involve government plotting, environmental change with potentially catastrophic effects on humans and wildlife, and millions of dollars of economic impact taken from some and given to others."
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The real issues surrounding the practice of cloud seeding are far more interesting. The sometimes secret practice of cloud seeding really does involve government plotting, environmental change with potentially catastrophic effects on humans and wildlife, and millions of dollars of economic impact taken from some and given to others."
This is what conspiritors want you to believe about the chemtrials. Although scientist I'm sure are working to achieve this type of cloud seeding and weather controlling. It is not simple-likely to waist tons of money, and isn't even safe for the people trying to male it happen. - So what is the point? (Maybe that is what you were implying?)
Take into account all of the atomic bombs we have exploaded into the atmosphere, are you feeling/experiencing any sort of drastic or dynamic weather changes that are extraordinary of your typical climates? No. Nor are you experiancing any type of radiation from these bombs.
The same applies for volcanoes. And volcanoes shoot hundreds of tons of more chemicals in the atmosphere than atomic bombs.
A person would literally have to explode 1000s of atomic level bombs at one time in the atmosphere for you to actually (maybe) see an impact on the people and environment.
Like I said before. Do more research on how the climate and weather patterns actually work around the world, the way air flows, and the weight of the chemicals being dispursed, you'll realize that this concept is a little more extreme than simply spraying chemicals in the atmosphere.
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Aliens??! Your joking right? :airplane:
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This is what conspiritors want you to believe about the chemtrials. Although scientist I'm sure are working to achieve this type of cloud seeding and weather controlling. It is not simple-likely to waist tons of money, and isn't even safe for the people trying to male it happen. - So what is the point? (Maybe that is what you were implying?)
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Um... I hate to ask now, but do you know what cloud seeding is? It has nothing to do with chemtrail conspiracy theories. Completely different. As far as I can tell, most true Chemtrail conspiracy theorists generally dismiss cloud seeding as ill-advised weather manipulation on a very local level, mostly because you can both prove cloud seeding exists and fairly easily document the process in every way including ride-alongs in cloud seeding aircraft. Chemtrail conspiracies go way beyond that. Cloud seeding is far too mundane for a true conspiracy theorist. Only someone who actually pays attention to real science gets worked up over cloud seeding.
All cloud seeding involves is dumping precisely sized particulates (silver iodide is the preferred substance, if I recall correctly) into highly humid air, at the right altitude to stimulate cloud formation that will work with temperature, humidity, and pressure gradients to form large enough condensate (bigger water drops) for it to rain in a desired location. That's pretty much it. Dump some powder into the air to make it rain in one location.
Chemtrail conspiracies involve mind control, a secret cabal that somehow includes every aircraft mechanic, pilot, and dispatcher on the planet, and a planetwide ultra-government agency waving the baton to line their own pockets with money and power. Nothing about chemtrails has anything to do with the mundane prospect of making it rain...
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a secret cabal that somehow includes every aircraft mechanic, pilot, and dispatcher on the planet, and a planetwide ultra-government agency waving the baton to line their own pockets with money and power.
This is always the interesting point to me regarding conspiracy theories - the number of people that would have to remain completely silent about them pretty much writes them off from being a possibility.
On the other hand though, you yourself Eagl have made slight mention in a post here once regarding things that the majority of us that haven't been in the areas training where you have, and how these "things" are probably beyond belief. Care to expand your comments on those things, and where they came from at all?
I didn't think so.
I mean no offense, the opposite in fact, but you yourself have so much as said so in a post here that there are things the public will likely never know about, or at least not for a while, or unless something unbalances the status qou right now. I wish I could find that post you made about this, it was in regards to training in Nevada, my search skills have failed me. Anyhow...
So, as impossible to believe most conspiracy nut theories are, there ARE still a lot of unanswered questions from the public regarding a great many secret things, things you Eagl probably have a better inkling of, or even more direct knowledge. So it isn't all 100% far fetched nonsense, although I agree the chemtrail thing is.
I think many of them are a result of the huge levels of secrecy within our governments and military now. I'm not saying that some secrecy isn't a necessity, far from it, just that it is common knowledge that such secrets exists, which in and of itself propels people to think up the worst case scenarios, and thus starts the nonsense.
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