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Title: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: ONTOS on October 29, 2014, 01:33:41 PM
Just wondering why the Sherman's show black diesel smoke starting up, when they are gasoline powered ? :headscratch:
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: Slate on October 29, 2014, 02:51:49 PM
   Did you ever drive older cars? When I grew up you checked your oil and fluids or you didn't make it home lol.  :eek:
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: SysError on October 29, 2014, 02:57:22 PM
I thought that the fireflys were diesel.?  Anyone?   :headscratch:
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: skorpx1 on October 29, 2014, 03:48:36 PM
Just wondering why the Sherman's show black diesel smoke starting up, when they are gasoline powered ? :headscratch:


We've done engine swaps for all M4 Sherman tanks to improve hauling power.

Don't mind the diesel engines, all fuel and work is paid for by HTC and the crew.



Next comes suspension and track upgrades for all tanks to reduce the number of flipped tanks.
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: Hetzer7 on October 29, 2014, 04:20:31 PM
Maybe something like this to cut thru those iron trees:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tlm5aSp4uQ8/TviGZ_u5ewI/AAAAAAAAATM/48oxdNJtTMY/s1600/Sherman-passing-through-wrecked-town.jpg)
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: ONTOS on October 29, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
I'm 66 years old. Some of the old cars smoked, but not like these tanks. The Firefly was gasoline too.
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: Softail on October 29, 2014, 06:01:46 PM
LOL...given the smoking logic...shouldn't every P47 belch black smoke too?  They shared the same engine until the M4A4.

I don't care so much about the smoke...its the 7 second start up time and that HTC has it with a top speed of 21mph when every tank book printed says it was 25-30mph.

I rarely drive them though...to slow and they die to damn easy....unless I am shooting one...then it takes 3-4 rounds to kill.  LOL

Softy
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 29, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Not all Shermans were gasoline powered.  The Marines used diesel powered Shermans in the Pacific because they could get them quicker than the gasoline powered Shermans and the USN had large amounts of diesel fuel available.  I believe the M4A6 was also diesel powered with a Caterpillar built diesel engine.

ack-ack
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: colmbo on October 29, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
LOL...given the smoking logic...shouldn't every P47 belch black smoke too?  They shared the same engine until the M4A4.

Hmmm.  The Jug has the P&W 2800.  IIRC the Sherman had a version of the Wright 1820 (B-17 engine)

Ah, it was a Continental 975 radial.
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: GScholz on October 29, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
Old carburetted gasoline motors produce black smoke when the mixture is very rich. Like when you cold start using choke, or when you suddenly give it more gas.

Check out this King Tiger...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5p3KCli6YM
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: BaldEagl on October 29, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
It wasn't diesel, it was coal.  They used it to reduce the risk of a fuel explosion in case of the armor being compromised.  It was also useful for staying warm in winter and barbequing.

An early M4 prototype.  Note the anti-aircraft main gun:

(http://hornsbycrawler.org/uploads/Main/old_photo_01.jpg)
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 29, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
I thought they were all Multi fuel, designed to burn any fuel available. :headscratch:
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: 367sam on October 30, 2014, 09:52:12 AM
The ones my father worked on in France had the twin GM 6-71 diesels. I believe they were the M4A2.
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: ONTOS on October 30, 2014, 10:41:44 AM
The M4A2 and the M4A6 had diesel engines, all others as far as i can tell had gasoline engines. I do not know everything about tanks, but the ones we use in HTC had gas engines. I was just stating an observation. Didn't mean to put a thistle up your kilts.  :salute
Title: Re: M4 Sherman tanks
Post by: lunatic1 on November 01, 2014, 11:48:45 PM
does it really matter for this GAME?? the ene isn't gonna care what color your exhaust smoke is