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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: wpeters on November 06, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
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I am wanting to switch from a laptop to a tablet. I am wanting to get one to run my grade book at school. It would take a lot less space on my desk than my laptop.
Any suggestions of what a good tablet is. Any recommendations on which ones :salute
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What are you going to use it for ?
Im in two minds myself.
Either its going to be a Nexus9 since i read magazines on the net, and the 7" screen is too small,
or the Asus T100 with the new processor Intel® Atom Z3775 (because of the keyboard, and I can use a DVD usb player for my daughters film viewing).
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What do you want to do with it?
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What do you want to do with it?
Some YouTube. But mostly as a grade book and schedule planner
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Looking for a windows tablet?
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Looking for a windows tablet?
I don't know. I was wondering what you guys recommend
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Very tough to suggest something in this department IMO. In our home we have an Ipad Air (mine), an Ipad Air mini, a Samsung Galaxy 2, an older BlackBerry Tablet (wasn't bad actually), various older kindles and such, and lastly, a Microsoft Surface 2.
All have their pros and cons - Apple has probably the most/best apps, but the Andriod system is very good as well. The Retina screen on the Ipads is great, and so on. All that said, for productivity, nothing IMO beats the Microsoft product. It's all very familiar due to all of us being Windows bred, the keyboard is so so, but overall, if I had to only have one, this would be it.
With holidays coming, and the newer Ipads for sale, you can likely get a great deal on an Ipad Air, either size is great, very light, and both being a year old still have fantastic battery life.
Considering you've said you want to switch from a laptop though, I would say that looking seriously at the models which actually REPLACE a notebook, or do their best to, are your best options. The Surface is right up there for this IMO. See, typing is what is really going to screw with you IMO, going from a good notebook keyboard, to the silly glass screen type touch of most tablets. Either getting a BlueTooth keyboard, or a model with a good included keyboard, is a critical factor, again, IMO. The Surface comes with a reasonably decent one, and for 40$ I bought a solid metal Logitech KB that also becomes a sort of magnetized case for my Ipad Air. Don't forget this feature with whatever you go with, because the first long email or document you go to type on a glass mini keyboard will have you saying some very bad words, and longing for your laptop back - that's my experience anyhow.
We got our Surface 2 for 400$ on sale, which was 100+ less than an Ipad Air at the time up here in Canada, and then some. IMO the Surface blows the Ipad away for productivity stuff, while the Ipad is a bit better for lounging around type stuff, such as epub books, Netflix (looks great in 5200kbps Super HD with the Retina screen resolution), games, and the like. In your shoes it would be the Surface for me, with an upgrade to a "type cover" with moving keys, over the usual "touch cover" with the usual touch keys.
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I would say also that depending on what kind of phone you use would help dictate what tablet you get. I know most people who have I-phones use I-pads. I myself use an android tablet and android phone. My wife uses an I-phone and an I-pad. I cannot use an I-pad I hate the fact that I simply cannot go back with a single button. I switched to android and probably can never go back to Apple merchandise.
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I agree totally with Gman. If you are looking for a true laptop replacement, look no further than the Surface. I have a Surface 3 i7 for work, and absolutely love it. I have a docking station at work, which outputs to 2 monitors, plus my surface screen, and has a full size keyboard and mouse attached as well. You can also get the "portable" laptop style keyboard (which I have, but rarely use). It is truly a laptop replacement, which I can pick up and carry to a meeting, or to go program a router, or spin up a new VM from my car if necessary, etc etc. I would not recommend either an iPAD or android tablet as a laptop replacement. Sure, there are tons of apps out there for both, but nothing beats being able to load up real MS Office, Google Chrome and/or Internet Explorer, and everything/anything else you can think of that runs on windows...Its not going to have the GPU guts to play high end games, but I can easily play some older titles on it.. (such as Half Life 3, etc etc) Havent tried AH on it, but I imagine it probably would run it, though not at the highest detail of course...
Sol
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I've had a Nexus 7 and I really, really hate it.
The Android operating system insists...insists...on loading and running everything it can possibly find in the background.
Short of "rooting" it, something for experienced techies and re-loading the OS to your liking, that's the only fix.
I wish I had spent the extra money on an iPad, where you can simply flick off the programs running and keep them closed.
I have tried to like the Nexus for a while now. It has been assigned Netflix, Facebook and some email duties...and kindle. Netflix pauses a lot and when I check to see what else is running, pretty much everything the device can find is. You can download apps that manage this....and I have tried, and bought, a few. But they all ultimately fail. This is why we no longer use the Garmin program on this device when we fly. The iPad mini my friend has runs circles around it.
I used to hate Apple and all things Mac But if you want something that's bulletproof in reliability, function and performance...spend the extra money.
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Im still considering getting this one. But Im not planning on having a tablet tied to my phone service either.
Runs the full version of windows and has a 320GB 5400 RPM internal hard drive so it will run whatever software I want. without having ot go to an "app store"
http://www.skytex.com/tablets/windows/s970-1020
Actually Ive been considering it for a while. But its a purchase for me. And when its for me I agonize over it. If it were for my wife or kid I'd have picked one up two years ago LOL
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Im still considering getting this one. But Im not planning on having a tablet tied to my phone service either.
Runs the full version of windows and has a 320GB 5400 RPM internal hard drive so it will run whatever software I want. without having ot go to an "app store"
http://www.skytex.com/tablets/windows/s970-1020
Actually Ive been considering it for a while. But its a purchase for me. And when its for me I agonize over it. If it were for my wife or kid I'd have picked one up two years ago LOL
Two things that stuck on for me when reading the specs... Atom Processor and a slow, 5400 RPM hard drive. I would've expected something beefier in CPU (Intel i3?) or a Solid State Disk (or mSATA) which is so much faster than a mechanical drive (and smaller).
Built around Windows is nice, tho..
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Im still considering getting this one. But Im not planning on having a tablet tied to my phone service either.
Runs the full version of windows and has a 320GB 5400 RPM internal hard drive so it will run whatever software I want. without having ot go to an "app store"
http://www.skytex.com/tablets/windows/s970-1020
Actually Ive been considering it for a while. But its a purchase for me. And when its for me I agonize over it. If it were for my wife or kid I'd have picked one up two years ago LOL
It'll get infected also faster than you can say hello and then you better hope it has no ability to make calls to toll numbers :)
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No worse then my PC would and I still have one unused license for NOD32.
Mostly there a couple of windows based things for my business I want to be able to run on it. I pretty much only surf the web at home on my PC anyway.
I only rarely surf on my phone. And even then I am usually looking for someplace specific. Like the closest hardware store.
Thats why I dont need it tied to my cell phone service
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I have (had) a Nexus 7, it's with the kids now. I love it, it is an awesome platform if you are using as a mobile content/media view, for lightweight work (much the same as ipads). I've used both ipads and android and I find android the more advanced platform. iOS just feels primitive for me.
Earlier this year I was given a Dell Venue Pro 8, Windows 8.1 8" tablet, initially I hated it as I felt Windows didn't suit the form factor. Then I saw the Surface being used with a stylus, so I went and got the Stylus for my Venue. Holy moses what a difference. If you want something for productivity (e.g. taking notes, full email, full office suite) you cannot be a Win 8.1 tablet - it leaves both iOS and Android for dead. Using OneNote on the Venue with the stylus replaced all my notebooks for meetings.
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Thanks guts for the answers. I am going to check into a Windows based tablet.
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I've had a Nexus 7 and I really, really hate it.
The Android operating system insists...insists...on loading and running everything it can possibly find in the background.
Short of "rooting" it, something for experienced techies and re-loading the OS to your liking, that's the only fix.
I wish I had spent the extra money on an iPad, where you can simply flick off the programs running and keep them closed.
I have tried to like the Nexus for a while now. It has been assigned Netflix, Facebook and some email duties...and kindle. Netflix pauses a lot and when I check to see what else is running, pretty much everything the device can find is. You can download apps that manage this....and I have tried, and bought, a few. But they all ultimately fail. This is why we no longer use the Garmin program on this device when we fly. The iPad mini my friend has runs circles around it.
I used to hate Apple and all things Mac But if you want something that's bulletproof in reliability, function and performance...spend the extra money.
Have to agree.
I like Android, but only because I am technical and like to customize and have more control over my system. For someone who just wants it to "work"...iPad is the way to go. My wife and son are iPhone/iPad/Mac....I'm Windows 7 (games) / Linux & *BSD (work and stuff) / Android. Works well and I only end up doing tech support for MY stuff most of the time.
I've worked with Windows tablets. I'd avoid like the plague.
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I used to hate Apple and all things Mac But if you want something that's bulletproof in reliability, function and performance...spend the extra money.
I've found out most people hate Apple until they actually give it a try. I used to hate Apple and all things mac simply because they were alien to me and had a price premium. Now after using pretty much every iDevice known to man through work I have reversed my opinion.
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Good point
They require us to come out of our [Windows] comfort zone. But since Microsoft hosed the user interface shoving Windows 8 /tablet like functionality on us (and taken a pounding in sales for it), that's helped inspire folks to either stay with 7 or check out other options.
From the programming I do with my R2-D2s in Windows, I can really appreciate the Mac model. Make a device, make them have the identical hardware / hardware profile and that's quite nice to code for. I have the Adobe Web Suite for the web programming I've been learning over the years. All the Adobe apps really fly nicely on the Mac platform. Just about every tutorial and manual shows screenshots from the Mac version!
Someone mentioned viruses....no worse than any other Windows PC. I invest in Trend Micro Titanium and it covers everything very well. Avoid the freebies.
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We are done with Apple. After the iPad got bricked by the 8.0 update. The Wife took it back to Apple and they wanted to charge her to fix it, claiming she must have done something wrong to brick it.
I will not get into the issues she had with it while it was working. It only took her a week to figure out she bought the wrong product. I wish she would have gotten rid of it then.
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I've found out most people hate Apple until they actually give it a try. I used to hate Apple and all things mac simply because they were alien to me and had a price premium. Now after using pretty much every iDevice known to man through work I have reversed my opinion.
I gave an iphone a try. it was bad. went back to android and never looked back. I like the fact I can customize my phone and get rid of apps I dont use and keep the ones i use. on the other hand apple loves to tell me people what they need as if they knew everybody.
semp
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I gave an iphone a try. it was bad. went back to android and never looked back. I like the fact I can customize my phone and get rid of apps I dont use and keep the ones i use. on the other hand apple loves to tell me people what they need as if they knew everybody.
semp
I wouldn't touch an Android phone myself. I made the mistake of buying one for my daughter, endless trouble with it. It was buggy and difficult to use and the play store had at that time 30% of apps with malware on them. Play store still has malware apps, now Google just scans them post publishing so not so many people manage to infect their phones before its caught.
Anything open in phones is bad in my book. You want your phone to be as closed as possible and you want to download software only from trusted sources. Your phone (unless it's a prepaid) is an open tap for criminals, they can induce charges to you limitlessly just by placing calls on your device. That can be done silently on Android phones by the way, without the user knowing.
I wouldn't want to have a freedom to install animated backgrounds to my credit card for example unless they came from 100% reliable sources. Would you? Yet you seem to want that freedom to your phone that's directly tapped to your account billing without limit usually. The criminals can induce 5000, 10000USD bills easily by calling their own high cost toll numbers in Uganda. These cases have happened but as with credit card scams the companies suppress the publicity to avoid panic. We just pay the added cost collectively.
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I wouldn't touch an Android phone myself. I made the mistake of buying one for my daughter, endless trouble with it. It was buggy and difficult to use and the play store had at that time 30% of apps with malware on them. Play store still has malware apps, now Google just scans them post publishing so not so many people manage to infect their phones before its caught.
Anything open in phones is bad in my book. You want your phone to be as closed as possible and you want to download software only from trusted sources. Your phone (unless it's a prepaid) is an open tap for criminals, they can induce charges to you limitlessly just by placing calls on your device. That can be done silently on Android phones by the way, without the user knowing.
I wouldn't want to have a freedom to install animated backgrounds to my credit card for example unless they came from 100% reliable sources. Would you? Yet you seem to want that freedom to your phone that's directly tapped to your account billing without limit usually. The criminals can induce 5000, 10000USD bills easily by calling their own high cost toll numbers in Uganda. These cases have happened but as with credit card scams the companies suppress the publicity to avoid panic. We just pay the added cost collectively.
I have yet to have an prepaid phone. perhaps the problem is you should teach your kids not to download every single app that looks cool in the market. and I have yet to have any app call uganda or skandinavia for that matter. I dont pay for animated backgrounds even if they came for 100% reliable sources, to me it's a waste of money. and that's the same reason I wont pay for an overpriced iphone. I do all my banking on my computer and on my phone. the only check I write is to pay the rent in my apartment. going on several years now with android except when I switched to the iphone and I couldnt wait to get rid of it. I ended up selling my iphone for less than 1/2 of what I paid. the guy I sold it to thought he got a bargain. 2 months later he was so frustrated with it he gave it away.
out of 25 or 30 people in my department only 2 have an iphone.
semp
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I have yet to have an prepaid phone. perhaps the problem is you should teach your kids not to download every single app that looks cool in the market. and I have yet to have any app call uganda or skandinavia for that matter. I dont pay for animated backgrounds even if they came for 100% reliable sources, to me it's a waste of money. and that's the same reason I wont pay for an overpriced iphone. I do all my banking on my computer and on my phone. the only check I write is to pay the rent in my apartment. going on several years now with android except when I switched to the iphone and I couldnt wait to get rid of it. I ended up selling my iphone for less than 1/2 of what I paid. the guy I sold it to thought he got a bargain. 2 months later he was so frustrated with it he gave it away.
out of 25 or 30 people in my department only 2 have an iphone.
semp
I don't have to teach my kids as they can only download pre-screened and approved apps to their iphones. Much safer and easier that way. Plus I don't really miss the endless android nightmare: Daddy why doesn't this work? Get an iPhone and stuff _will_ work. No matter what Skuzzy says :D
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I never said it would not work. Well,..it did not work after the 8.0 update bricked it. I am relaying a customers dissatisfaction with the product. I never used her iPad.
Personally, I do not care for Apple products, for a couple of reasons. My reasons are logic based. The biggest issue, is they do not work well for what I use a computer for. I have no vested interests in any specific hardware or software. I use what works best for me.
You will never hear me say one is better than the other, in generic terms. Never. However, there are applications which both shine in or one shines better than the other.
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I wish I use a iPad but the program that I use for grade records is a spreadsheet with marcos enabled. If I could I find a program like that to work like that I would use it.
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I don't have to teach my kids as they can only download pre-screened and approved apps to their iphones. Much safer and easier that way. Plus I don't really miss the endless android nightmare: Daddy why doesn't this work? Get an iPhone and stuff _will_ work. No matter what Skuzzy says :D
I dont really understand what you are saying here. as I have never had this problem with android. perhaps it's the fact that you live in a different country and get a different version of android tailored to your specific carrier, while iphone are almost all the same.
not trying to get into an argument but can you be more specific as to what or which app doesnt work with android?
semp
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I wouldn't touch an Android phone myself. I made the mistake of buying one for my daughter, endless trouble with it. It was buggy and difficult to use and the play store had at that time 30% of apps with malware on them. Play store still has malware apps, now Google just scans them post publishing so not so many people manage to infect their phones before its caught.
Anything open in phones is bad in my book. You want your phone to be as closed as possible and you want to download software only from trusted sources. Your phone (unless it's a prepaid) is an open tap for criminals, they can induce charges to you limitlessly just by placing calls on your device. That can be done silently on Android phones by the way, without the user knowing.
I wouldn't want to have a freedom to install animated backgrounds to my credit card for example unless they came from 100% reliable sources. Would you? Yet you seem to want that freedom to your phone that's directly tapped to your account billing without limit usually. The criminals can induce 5000, 10000USD bills easily by calling their own high cost toll numbers in Uganda. These cases have happened but as with credit card scams the companies suppress the publicity to avoid panic. We just pay the added cost collectively.
Sorry, but I entirely disagree with your post. Both iOS and Android are insecure. I don't want to spend tireless hours arguing with an apple fanatic, all I will say my job is in the IT security business. Some of your statements are hyperbole (like the 30% of android apps having malware), and apple has also seen sideloaded malware in apps as well the latest wirelurker threat (not to mention the repeated icloudl breaches and issues).
Remember a time when apple said virus's were just a windows problem - well apple now ships all OS X devices with native antivirus - what does that tell you?
Get the tablet that fits the tasks you need to do.
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Sorry, but I entirely disagree with your post. Both iOS and Android are insecure. I don't want to spend tireless hours arguing with an apple fanatic, all I will say my job is in the IT security business. Some of your statements are hyperbole (like the 30% of android apps having malware), and apple has also seen sideloaded malware in apps as well the latest wirelurker threat (not to mention the repeated icloudl breaches and issues).
Remember a time when apple said virus's were just a windows problem - well apple now ships all OS X devices with native antivirus - what does that tell you?
Get the tablet that fits the tasks you need to do.
List active OSX viruses or even unpatched malware that are in the wild today, then let's talk further. There are about a handful of known attacks as we speak and those are being handled by built in protections. So currently finding an OSX virus is about as likely as being hit to the head with a meteorite. Windows use then again is pretty much dodging bullets at a shooting range. The list of windows viruses wouldn't even fit in one post probably :D
As long as a user doesn't jailbreak the phone, he can only download software from trusted sources which makes iOS devices inherently very secure. The sideloading etc. cases have been mostly due to users loading software from shady Chinese sites (as with the latest iOS attack which requires the user to download compromised and non-approved software from a Chinese site using his personal computer, iOS wouldn't let the user compromise his device).
Oh and btw 30% of Play store apps _did_ contain malware prior to Google pulling the emergency brake and creating the app screen. As we speak the amount of new apps detected and rejected from Play store continues to be around 30% the last time I checked. So one in three new Android apps are coming from a malicious source and the process of Play store allows unlimited amounts of attacks. It's inevitable that something will slip past the detection software as software based scanning is never reliable. After the app screen only a few percent apps had malware anymore (the ones that hadn't been detected yet) and the situation is unaltered today. Play store still lacks proper developer registration process and app prescreening like Apple does. Play store is inherently insecure as anyone can upload their software there and nothing but an automated script reviews the code for safety. So it has the same security problems like a typical windows pc user.
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I dont really understand what you are saying here. as I have never had this problem with android. perhaps it's the fact that you live in a different country and get a different version of android tailored to your specific carrier, while iphone are almost all the same.
not trying to get into an argument but can you be more specific as to what or which app doesnt work with android?
semp
I bought a Samsung Xcovery to my kid (years ago) because I thought it would be a good 'kid phone' due to its resilience. It turned out to be a bag of trouble. It had a tiny internal memory and 90% of apps found in the play store refused to install on the microSD card. So the end result was that once you installed 3-4 apps your internal memory was full and practically nothing was able to run using the microSD.
This combined to the clunky hard to use Android interface... it was a disaster. From now on I'm buying iPhones only also for the kids. They'll just need to be a bit more careful about dropping them.
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I understand now you bought a crappy phone then blamed the os for it. It would be like me buying an apple11c and blaming the os because I can't play current games.
semp
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I understand now you bought a crappy phone then blamed the os for it. It would be like me buying an apple11c and blaming the os because I can't play current games.
semp
The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.
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The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.
I bought my ex a simple phone. The hydro something or other. It has a crappy design too and not a lot of memory. Micro sds don't work well with it. The problem is not the os but the phone design. I have the note 2 and have none of the problems.
There's also some apps that won't work with some phones. mostly because of the phone design.
semp
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The phone was new when we bought it. Which part of the rampant malware problem and the bugginess did you miss? The inability to use the microSD for apps is nothing but a design flaw on software side as some apps supported it, some not.
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rampant malware problem? I see reports of more iOS devices being comprimised (either directly or via icloud) than android.
The inability to use an SD card for apps was in Android 2.0 or earlier (very very old android). About the same time the iphone lacked simple features like cut and paste, or BT Audio playback support.
You are incredibly bias towards ios, apple can do no wrong in your eyes so I don't see how your posts can be considered helpful?
Oh and:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2847709/security/vulnerability-leaves-iphones-open-to-fake-app-attack.html#jump
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I bought my ex a simple phone. The hydro something or other. It has a crappy design too and not a lot of memory. Micro sds don't work well with it. The problem is not the os but the phone design. I have the note 2 and have none of the problems.
There's also some apps that won't work with some phones. mostly because of the phone design.
semp
You get no 'phone design' problems with iPhones. They work. Start to see the difference? :)
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rampant malware problem? I see reports of more iOS devices being comprimised (either directly or via icloud) than android.
The inability to use an SD card for apps was in Android 2.0 or earlier (very very old android). About the same time the iphone lacked simple features like cut and paste, or BT Audio playback support.
You are incredibly bias towards ios, apple can do no wrong in your eyes so I don't see how your posts can be considered helpful?
Oh and:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2847709/security/vulnerability-leaves-iphones-open-to-fake-app-attack.html#jump
Stop spreading FUD this attack is purely theoretical since anyone using it would have to get it through the app store. Even update packets are signed and verified. Also if a dev would try to pull something like this he would never develop for Apple again. Apple store is not like Google play where anyone with an e-mail and 20 bucks can publish stuff. You need to register and get approved.
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You get no 'phone design' problems with iPhones. They work. Start to see the difference? :)
Yeah coz there's been never any design issues with iphones, like Antennagate on the iPhone 4.
Now I'm not sure if you're trolling or not?
Stop spreading FUD this attack is purely theoretical since anyone using it would have to get it through the app store. Even update packets are signed and verified. Also if a dev would try to pull something like this he would never develop for Apple again. Apple store is not like Google play where anyone with an e-mail and 20 bucks can publish stuff. You need to register and get approved.
FUD? Maybe you should WATCH the video, maybe you should read the official CERT warnings ( https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-317A ). If you pulled your head out of apples backside long enough to see the real world you would have noticed this attack does not install from the app store nor does it require the replace malware to get past apple.
Here's the official CERT posting:
Alert (TA14-317A)
Apple iOS "Masque Attack" Technique
Original release date: November 13, 2014 | Last revised: November 17, 2014
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Systems Affected
iOS devices running iOS 7.1.1, 7.1.2, 8.0, 8.1, and 8.1.1 beta.
Overview
A technique labeled “Masque Attack” allows an attacker to substitute malware for a legitimate iOS app under a limited set of circumstances.
Description
Masque Attack was described by FireEye mobile security researchers [1] (link is external), Stefan Esser of SektionEins, and Jonathan Zdziarski. This attack works by luring users to install an app from a source other than the iOS App Store or their organizations’ provisioning system. In order for the attack to succeed, a user must install an untrusted app, such as one delivered through a phishing link.
This technique takes advantage of a security weakness that allows an untrusted app—with the same “bundle identifier” as that of a legitimate app—to replace the legitimate app on an affected device, while keeping all of the user’s data. This vulnerability exists because iOS does not enforce matching certificates for apps with the same bundle identifier. Apple’s own iOS platform apps, such as Mobile Safari, are not vulnerable.
Impact
An app installed on an iOS device using this technique may:
Mimic the original app’s login interface to steal the victim’s login credentials.
Access sensitive data from local data caches.
Perform background monitoring of the user’s device.
Gain root privileges to the iOS device.
Be indistinguishable from a genuine app.
Solution
iOS users can protect themselves from Masque Attacks by following three steps:
Don’t install apps from sources other than Apple’s official App Store or your own organization.
Don’t click “Install” from a third-party pop-up when viewing a web page.
When opening an app, if iOS shows an “Untrusted App Developer” alert, click on “Don’t Trust” and uninstall the app immediately.
Further details on Masque Attack and mitigation guidance can be found on FireEye’s blog [1] (link is external). US-CERT does not endorse or support any particular product or vendor.
References
[1] FireEye (link is external)
Revisions
November 13, 2014: Initial Release
November 17, 2014: Vulnerability attribution amended
And.... before you jump in with "but the user has to tap on install", this is how 99% of Windows PC get infected, idiots clicking on links etc. And imho the apple user base is not significantly smarter (if at all) than the Windows user base.
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Yeah coz there's been never any design issues with iphones, like Antennagate on the iPhone 4.
Now I'm not sure if you're trolling or not?
There are about 2000 different android hardware designs for sale as we speak, containing a dozen different versions of Android. It's a nightmare for developers and consumers. On iPhone you only get the current models that are well supported and garanteed to work.
This attack works by luring users to install an app from a source other than the iOS App Store or their organizations’ provisioning system. In order for the attack to succeed, a user must install an untrusted app, such as one delivered through a phishing link.
So as long as you use your phone the way you're supposed to and not install software from outside sources you're perfectly safe. Without a jailbreak you can't install apps on an iphone outside of app store. So quit spreading your FUD.
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This is no longer helpful.
There is enough incorrect information in this thread to warrant it useless.
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See Rule #4
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That topic was locked to prevent this type of thing from going on. There is nothing to be gained from fanboys beating their chests on the forum.
There were a number of things incorrect in this previous thread. If anyone wants to find the answers, then Google is your friend. As this forum is not about Apple, and our game is not intended for those products, a virulent discussion does not need to take place here. Take it to an Apple appropriate forum, please.
There is one truism about the Internet. If you have an opinion, you can find someone who will back it up. It does not mean it is valid. It does not mean it is not valid. It is just what it is.