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Title: Jugs
Post by: DEECONX on November 10, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
Hey all! Looking for some reading material between all the jugs in game and what each one can or can't do. How similar/dissimilar are they from model to model and such. Need a better idea of what the limits of the plane are and how to use them to my advantage. Also if there are any trainers in particular that could walk me through them that'd be great, but really just looking for some numbers etc to look at and compare.

Thanks!  :aok
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Rob52240 on November 10, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
Get with Jarbo in game.  He knows every thing there is to know about the P-47 in Aces High.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Triton28 on November 10, 2014, 09:24:23 AM
I'm assuming you've checked out the AH wiki page, but here it is if you haven't:  http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II (http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Aircraft_of_Aces_High_II)

I've always found the info on there to be a pretty solid foundation when trying to learn new planes. 

 :salute
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Hap on November 10, 2014, 12:30:00 PM
how to use them to my advantage

Assuming you've loaded up a jug & know the feel and rate of climb.  Go for the smallest 6 gun package with 50% gas.  Let her autoclimb out on wep.  It's a good discovery if you've not tried it. 

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Rob52240 on November 10, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
If you're engaging another fighter with a jug, you definitely need to maintain an energy advantage at all times.

If you get low and slow in a jug it does have excellent flap turning capabilities but it's sheer weight means that once you're slow it's going to take you a lot longer to get speed and alt back than the red planes.

Taking six guns instead of 8 helps out like Hap said.  I always go with the smaller ammo load but can't let go of the extra two guns.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: -ammo- on November 10, 2014, 01:24:31 PM
Taking the 6 gun load out in a jug is like taking a shower with your socks on.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Randy1 on November 10, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
Taking the 6 gun load out in a jug is like taking a shower with your socks on.

. . . and flying a mustang. :lol

Eight guns, big ammo package, then shoot anything that is red.

LilMak is real good in all of the P47s.  Maybe he will give you the straight skinny.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: DEECONX on November 10, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
Haha yeah part of the appeal of the jug is hitting something with 8 M2s...hitting them however is another thing entirely so taking large load.   :joystick:
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 10, 2014, 03:11:42 PM
What is your in-game name?
Next time I see you on I can let you ride me with me so I can show you a couple of techniques with the P47 I've learned over the years that they don't teach ya in school. It really depends on if you want to use it for dive bombing or primarily just for dog fighting.

Riding in my plane will be a much better help than trying to be explain it.

Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: WWhiskey on November 10, 2014, 03:44:45 PM
In all the years I've played, I've never taken the six gun option, not once, I've flown all the jugs in the game, I fly the M for fighter most of the time now and the D-40 or D-25 for attack, In mid war I fly the D-11,  that's where I learned the Jug,, I can help you out with it but there are others much better than me,, One thing I've learned about it tho,, set your stick up for it and it won't work well with most other planes, at least that has been my experience,, that's why I fly it almost exclusively .
Most missions, I take off full of fuel in the M and switch to MAIN fuel tank at take off, this will give you about 29 minutes of fuel in the main tank and a ten minute reserve in the AUX,  the JUG is bad about getting a main fuel tank hit and losing all its gas real fast or at least it used to be,, if it's not a long flight I might go with 3/4 bag and still switch as soon as I'm in the plane, this gives you a 2.5 minute reserve roughly, NONE of this applies to the N   it doesn't seem to have the same problem,, no more than half a tank will do the job if your in it! I don't fly the N much because of My stick settings though!
climb up high, 18 to 20k and wait, remember to cut power on the way down to targets,try not to go below 10k before returning to your perch, she will outrun almost anything to the ground! at high speed she turns best, once your slow, your toast if you can't find an exit, for a while!!!  after a while you'll learn it, then you'll pop some unsuspecting spit 16 and that's a good feeling.
Ammo, Seadog, Jarbo,  and a few others are very good in the JUG,, anytime you can wing up with those guys, your in good hands, I'll fly with you if you like,, we can go to the TA if you want,, I'm the GV instructor but I know enough about the JUG to help you out I bet!
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: bozon on November 10, 2014, 03:44:50 PM
Taking the 6 gun load out in a jug is like taking a shower with your socks on.
It really depends on if you want to use it for dive bombing or primarily just for dog fighting.
Taking bombs in a jug is like taking a shower with your bra on.
Bombing is what B-38s are for.

P47 = 8 guns, no bombs, no questions.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: -ammo- on November 10, 2014, 04:27:38 PM
Taking bombs in a jug is like taking a shower with your bra on.
Bombing is what B-38s are for.

P47 = 8 guns, no bombs, no questions.

:lol :lol :lol
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: bustr on November 10, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
Frenchy once told me "Real men take 8".
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: DEECONX on November 10, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Haha!  :lol


Thanks for the responses fellas! My in game ID is Kassill. I'll try and get with some of you at some point. Spent the last two days flying with some 56th sticks so I'm making some progress.  :joystick:
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: WW1965 on November 11, 2014, 05:23:41 AM
Taking the 6 gun load out in a jug is like taking a shower with your socks on.

Amen !! 

And while on the subject of load outs, I take every damned bullet I can..   

Wrngway
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: WW1965 on November 11, 2014, 05:35:03 AM
Haha!  :lol


Thanks for the responses fellas! My in game ID is Kassill. I'll try and get with some of you at some point. Spent the last two days flying with some 56th sticks so I'm making some progress.  :joystick:


Well then you're on the right track.. and that means I don't have to type as much ..  :D

 :salute

Wrngway
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Randy1 on November 11, 2014, 05:58:14 AM

P47 = 8 guns, no bombs, no questions.


I do a fair amount of bombing.  The P-38 is no doubt a super air base and vehicle base"Attack" plane if you minimize the number of passes.  Two passes in the P-38 is about it without losing an engine is average.  The P-47 on the other hand, can take three passes on average.  The numbers are rounded off and in that rule of the thumb range.  If I were to be a bit more accurate I would say the P-38 passes without damage would be 1.5 and the P-47 2.

Two P-47s can take down three hangers, ords bunkers and radar on a small field with the addition of the belly 500 pounder.  

The P-38 of the two is the better gv attack plane in my opinion because you can do a high clover leaf fully loaded so easy.
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: WWhiskey on November 11, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
I do a fair amount of bombing.  The P-38 is no doubt a super air base and vehicle base"Attack" plane if you minimize the number of passes.  Two passes in the P-38 is about it without losing an engine is average.  The P-47 on the other hand, can take three passes on average.  The numbers are rounded off and in that rule of the thumb range.  If I were to be a bit more accurate I would say the P-38 passes without damage would be 1.5 and the P-47 2.

Two P-47s can take down three hangers, ords bunkers and radar on a small field with the addition of the belly 500 pounder.  

The P-38 of the two is the better gv attack plane in my opinion because you can do a high clover leaf fully loaded so easy.
two 47s can gun down a hanger or two after they've droped ord in most cases!
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: Zacherof on November 11, 2014, 10:03:02 AM
What is your in-game name?
Next time I see you on I can let you ride me with me so I can show you a couple of techniques with the P47 I've learned over the years that they don't teach ya in school. It really depends on if you want to use it for dive bombing or primarily just for dog fighting.

Riding in my plane will be a much better help than trying to be explain it.


I would love to take you up on this :rock
Title: Re: Jugs
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 11, 2014, 10:35:11 AM
I would love to take you up on this :rock

Weee don't normally pick up hitch hikers, butttt i'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Saddle up partner!

-Loyd Christmas