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Title: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: bangsbox on November 24, 2014, 03:27:50 PM
Why don't our B26s have torps? They were used as torp planes in combat.

From another post showing a combat log, we b26s using torps @ the battle of Midway.
(AG, 7AF, 370.24 Battle of Midway)
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12 June 1942
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WD CSA (By Cable)
Army part in Midway Battle reurad 185/9 was as follows:

1623/3d-Nine (9) B-17's attacked enemy vessels including 5 BB or CA - with bombs 24x600 lb - 12x500b - five known hits - one probable - one near - altitude 8 to 12,000 ft - observed results: first BB hit, second BB or CA and one larg transport afire. Water line hit amidships on large AP or AK - Own losses none.
0710/4th - Four (4) B-26's attacked enemy group of CV, BB, CA, DD with torpedoes - three hits - one CV hit twice, another CV hit once - intense small calibre AA fire from side of hangar deck - Zeros intercepted - two B-26's lost in attack - another two crash landed at Midway - two Zeros shot down.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Karnak on November 24, 2014, 03:49:23 PM
Not used often enough I think.  Same reason B-25Cs aren't enabled on carriers.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
Not used often enough I think.  Same reason B-25Cs aren't enabled on carriers.

Torpedoes were only dropped by the USAAF B-26s in two instances, the Battle of Midway and during a naval battle off the Aleutians.  However, the RAF (14th and 39 Squadron) flew torpedo missions in the MTO against Axis shipping.

http://www.14sqn-association.org.uk/14_Squadron_Association/Marauder.html#30
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Devil 505 on November 24, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
Not used often enough I think.  Same reason B-25Cs aren't enabled on carriers.

B-25C aren't available off carriers because those were heavily modified airframes used exactly once.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2014, 08:02:11 PM
B-25C aren't available off carriers because those were heavily modified airframes used exactly once.

It was the B-25B that was used for the Doolittle Raid, not B-25Cs.

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Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: colmbo on November 24, 2014, 08:33:34 PM
B-25C aren't available off carriers because those were heavily modified airframes used exactly once.

No they weren't.  The only thing done was the removal of the remote sighted belly turret (which didn't work well anyway) and the replacement of the Norden sight with a simple sight for low level use.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
No they weren't.  The only thing done was the removal of the remote sighted belly turret (which didn't work well anyway) and the replacement of the Norden sight with a simple sight for low level use.

There were some additional modifications as well.

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Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Coalcat1 on November 24, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
There were some additional modifications as well.

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Extra fuel tank, MkIII. Broomstick turrets, extra 10 gal. tanks. ect.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: BaldEagl on November 25, 2014, 12:15:52 AM
There were some additional modifications as well.

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Yes there were, to lighten the aircraft, not heavily modified airframes as stated by Devil 505 although the modifications were, in fact, only used once.

Extra fuel tank, MkIII. Broomstick turrets, extra 10 gal. tanks. ect.

Oops... forgot about that.  You are correct in that they added fuel to increase range although IIRC they carried it onboard in something like 10 gallon cans.  Not sure how they intended to get it supplied to the fuel system.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: lyric1 on November 25, 2014, 01:32:16 AM
Torpedoes were only dropped by the USAAF B-26s in two instances, the Battle of Midway and during a naval battle off the Aleutians.  However, the RAF (14th and 39 Squadron) flew torpedo missions in the MTO against Axis shipping.

http://www.14sqn-association.org.uk/14_Squadron_Association/Marauder.html#30


Few pictures of them with torpedoes.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/Scan_zpsa59c5d48.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/Scan_zpsa59c5d48.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/GH_zpsfe13005c.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/GH_zpsfe13005c.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/b26torp2_zpsd12a7c6a.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/b26torp2_zpsd12a7c6a.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torpa_zps23ff14ba.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torpa_zps23ff14ba.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torp_zps75566c08.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torp_zps75566c08.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: lyric1 on November 25, 2014, 05:52:43 AM
Few pictures of them with torpedoes.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/Scan_zpsa59c5d48.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/Scan_zpsa59c5d48.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/GH_zpsfe13005c.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/GH_zpsfe13005c.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/b26torp2_zpsd12a7c6a.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/b26torp2_zpsd12a7c6a.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torpa_zps23ff14ba.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torpa_zps23ff14ba.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torp_zps75566c08.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Martin%20B-26%20marauder/alaskab26torp_zps75566c08.jpg.html)



Better pic from above.

http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/b-26-marauder/b-26-marauder-40-1373-of-77th-bomb-squadron-adak-island-in-the-aleutians-november-1942/

Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: DEECONX on November 25, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
I'd have no problem with it as long it was used squadron wide and regularly (aka more than once). The next question though is how often would it be used?
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Scca on November 25, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
I'd have no problem with it as long it was used squadron wide and regularly (aka more than once). The next question though is how often would it be used?
More often than a 3 gun LA-7, or a TA-152  :bolt:
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: -ammo- on November 25, 2014, 01:09:54 PM
More often than a 3 gun LA-7, or a TA-152  :bolt:

LOL but true
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Karnak on November 25, 2014, 09:40:35 PM
So, if enabled, should it be an American torp or a British torp?
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: lyric1 on November 25, 2014, 11:28:16 PM
So, if enabled, should it be an American torp or a British torp?

I think the British used them more however no one was that happy with the results on either country. :headscratch: I guess I would go with the one that had the bigger punch.
Title: Re: Why don't our B26s have torps?
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 26, 2014, 12:39:21 AM
So, if enabled, should it be an American torp or a British torp?

British torpedo, their B-26s were modified to carry it.

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