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Title: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on November 24, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
Just some quick and ugly video. I took the raw AHF film, converted it to AVI, and simply uploaded...the quality is horrible, very very horrible, and I couldnt get sound or any views to be activated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w7aRIezRbQ

I might get flamed for this.

Just take it easy on me :banana:

As for a question, how do I get better videos, I KNOW I could use Fraps and record the film viewer but I gotta payyyy...and that's something I dont wanna do, really. But I'll give in if I have to.

So, umm..yeah. That's all. Baiiii
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Triton28 on November 24, 2014, 09:30:08 PM
Download MSI Afterburner.   It'll record the film viewer just fine and is free.   Decent quality too.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Dragon Tamer on November 24, 2014, 09:32:42 PM
There are check boxes on the right side of the film viewer, check the one that says "Use recorded views." If you use a hat switch then it will track which direction the head was looking, but not it's position relative to the airplane. If you are using TrackIR then it doesn't record anything. You can select a certain plane to target using TAB then follow it by pressing something else... but for the life of me I can't remember what the second button was.

As for sound, it should play by itself. It's possible that there is a bug with the film viewer which is keeping you from hearing them (probably wouldn't be the first time). It could also be the codec you used for converting.

It's also worth noting that even if you play with low graphics, turning them up before opening film viewer will change the settings that the film viewer renders it's shots. Even if you PC is a low end one, when you convert the video to an AVI you should get a pretty decent film out of it.

As for the external recording programs, I don't use them for a host of reasons, the biggest being that no matter what I use the film comes out butchered, choppy and unusable. The problem is that my hardware is too old and was never meant perform tasks like those.I just convert to an AVI because it works around my computers short comings (though it does take quite a bit of time to render out). I use Cinepak Codec by Radius when converting and it's consistently smooth.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: SPKmes on November 24, 2014, 10:03:42 PM
You could try bandicam (http://bandicam.com)


Also as noted...before opening the film viewer jump in offline mode and turn up the graphics..shut down aces and the film viewer will show things full graphics...just remember to change it all back when you go back in game to play.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on November 24, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
Download MSI Afterburner.   It'll record the film viewer just fine and is free.   Decent quality too.


Will do.


And I will change the version to use max graphics tonight, and will use the convert to AVI method again. To get better quality using this method do I change the size in the drop-down menu when converting to AVI?
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on November 24, 2014, 11:24:43 PM
Lol here is the second try, there is a bug with the film viewer so ignore the misplacement of some objects, and for some reason there's only 52 seconds of the video recorded.

I will try for a third time on this same tape tomorrow, to finish this one.

The quality is much improved..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1MBrEWyI1c&feature=youtu.be


P.S the views moving to the left are from me using the directional arrow keys to move my head position around. This is when I was using a mouse and keyboard to fly just over a week ago.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: wpeters on November 25, 2014, 03:46:09 PM

Just take it easy on me :banana:

As for a question, how do I get better videos, I KNOW I could use Fraps and record the film viewer but I gotta payyyy...and that's something I dont wanna do, really. But I'll give in if I have to.

So, umm..yeah. That's all. Baiiii

Try loilo.  http://loilo.tv/us/product/game_recorder

This is what blade recommend. Real great. A lot less memory intensive.
But recently have been using shadow play
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 08, 2014, 11:42:13 PM
Gonna get me a leet 'puter for Christmas me thinks won't have to worry about all that lag when recording for a video. :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

What do you all suggest for a desktop? :noid
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Kruel on December 08, 2014, 11:53:27 PM
How much do you have to spend?
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 08, 2014, 11:56:04 PM
How much do you have to spend?

350 w/ my own money. I will have some, "assistance" if need be ^____^

I'm not looking to spend it all though.

Edit: with 350 I'm screwed aren't I
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: glzsqd on December 09, 2014, 03:13:24 AM
What ever you do end up buying, DO NOT get suckered into the protection plans and software packages they will offer you, Its how they make most of their money. Once you get the machine I recommend downloading PCDecrapifier to get rid of all the trial crap that gets loaded onto machines and than using Ninite to get software  such as Microsoft security essentials, ITunes, Malwarebytes etc. Don't subscribe to Mcafee or Norton, both are terrible programs that hog resources and do virtually nothing to protect you computer. Security essentials(Windows Defender in 8 OS) is really all you need and its free. The Beauty of Ninite.com is it will Install all the "standard" free software in one go without the possibility of added toolbars and other trial nonsense.

For $600-700(pretty mid range) I'm sure you can find something that can run AH at fairly high settings and be pretty decent with video editing, but if your looking for a real "Gaming Rig" it'll be more like a grand. From my experience the mid ranged machines with AMD processors usually get better video cards than their Intel counterparts, but I'm not sure if this is still the case.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Volron on December 09, 2014, 04:32:58 AM
A good gaming rig will cost you a tad more than a grand. :)
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 06:12:07 AM
A good gaming rig will cost you a tad more than a grand. :)

Not necessarily looking for a gaming rig I don't think.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 08:26:52 AM
A good gaming rig will cost you a tad more than a grand. :)

You can build one that will run AH for under 500$. Heck just add a graphics card to a toaster and your set.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 08:33:29 AM
You can build one that will run AH for under 500$. Heck just add a graphics card to a toaster and your set.

I will need your help. :banana:
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Volron on December 09, 2014, 09:54:09 AM
You can build one that will run AH for under 500$. Heck just add a graphics card to a toaster and your set.

I am aware. :)  I know that just about anything for $500 will run AH. :aok  But to run AH at good graphics setting (holding 80+ frames during an FSO take off with those settings), you are going to need to spend a few dollars.  I never got an answer from Skuzzy about the machine I would need to run current AH at absolute maximum graphics (unless he thought I was talking about the upcoming, new AH), but I get the feeling that even now it would cost me around $2000.  I'm in line to build another machine, but I will wait until they release the new engine before I do.  I will ask HTC what I will need then. :D


Also Someguy63, don't pull a Poison on us and only have only 1TB of hard drive space.  Don't want to see video's suddenly ending due to HD space. :lol  But for 300-350, you are better off seeing if you can upgrade your current machine.  Post your machine specs here, and someone will likely tell you what you can get with the amount of cash that is available to you. :aok
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 10:12:43 AM
I am aware. :)  I know that just about anything for $500 will run AH. :aok  But to run AH at good graphics setting (holding 80+ frames during an FSO take off with those settings), you are going to need to spend a few dollars.  I never got an answer from Skuzzy about the machine I would need to run current AH at absolute maximum graphics (unless he thought I was talking about the upcoming, new AH), but I get the feeling that even now it would cost me around $2000.  I'm in line to build another machine, but I will wait until they release the new engine before I do.  I will ask HTC what I will need then. :D


Also Someguy63, don't pull a Poison on us and only have only 1TB of hard drive space.  Don't want to see video's suddenly ending due to HD space. :lol  But for 300-350, you are better off seeing if you can upgrade your current machine.  Post your machine specs here, and someone will likely tell you what you can get with the amount of cash that is available to you. :aok

The type of computer I want is one that can run AH at around 50-60 FPS, that would be wonderful for me. I also want to be able to run other games like the Total War series games like Empire Total War or Silent Hunter 3, nothing too hard to run tbh.

I will never pull a Poison. :lol

As for upgrading my current PC, it's a cheap Toshiba laptop bought from Walmart, runs on 3-35FPS in the MA 40-55 in the DA. :old: So it's best for me to get a new desktop.


Oh and you can call me Anarchy instead of zis BBS name.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
Also Someguy63, don't pull a Poison on us and only have only 1TB of hard drive space.  Don't want to see video's suddenly ending due to HD space. :lol  But for 300-350, you are better off seeing if you can upgrade your current machine.  Post your machine specs here, and someone will likely tell you what you can get with the amount of cash that is available to you. :aok

I have a 250 GB Hard drive and a 120 GB SSD... Its a tough life  :old:
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
The type of computer I want is one that can run AH at around 50-60 FPS, that would be wonderful for me. I also want to be able to run other games like the Total War series games like Empire Total War or Silent Hunter 3, nothing too hard to run tbh.

I will never pull a Poison. :lol

As for upgrading my current PC, it's a cheap Toshiba laptop bought from Walmart, runs on 3-35FPS in the MA 40-55 in the DA. :old: So it's best for me to get a new desktop.


Oh and you can call me Anarchy instead of zis BBS name.

I would save up until you can afford a least something like this http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/. That would be miles better then your current setup. Although you would still need a monitor, mouse and keyboard (and windows  :O)

If you try to get a really cheap computer now then in the next few years it will be already outdated, so in the long run you save money.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 11:00:42 AM
I would save up until you can afford a least something like this http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/. That would be miles better then your current setup. Although you would still need a monitor, mouse and keyboard (and windows  :O)

If you try to get a really cheap computer now then in the next few years it will be already outdated, so in the long run you save money.

Too much money I don't want that good a 'puter.

I'm sure I don't need that much to run Aces High.

Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
Too much money I don't want that good a 'puter.

I'm sure I don't need that much to run Aces High.



You don't. But if you want to play new games coming out then you want to get a good one now that will last you a few years. IMO! Get a toaster if you want.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Volron on December 09, 2014, 12:38:51 PM
For that 50-60 frame machine, are we talking minimal graphics, moderate?  Minimal, you are probably looking at $500.  Moderate, it's going to ramp up.  Poison has a point though, if you do invest in a machine, make sure you are thinking of what you plan on or might want to play in the future.  As I mentioned earlier, while I can build a new machine right now and run AH at near max to max graphics, I am really waiting on the release of the new engine.  There is a VERY good chance that building my next machine around that will allow me to play other games at a fairly high setting.  Of course, I'm going to go 2+ tiers higher (if able) than what HTC will tell me.  AH isn't the only game I play after all. :lol


I have a 250 GB Hard drive and a 120 GB SSD... Its a tough life  :old:

Ew...  I didn't think stuff that low existed still. :lol  You could get a 1TB HD for a decent enough price. :aok  I've had this 1TB HD since I built this machine, and only just now got another 1TB HD.  159 games in Steam, plus a dozen more that are not Steam, put a slight dent on my original drive. :D
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: glzsqd on December 09, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
I run this game on a 300$ Dollar Toshiba laptop as well, but I'm able to get a steady 60 fps. It has a Intel Celeron processor (1.80 ghz) and 4 gigs of ddr3 ram. I have a 1366X768 screen resolution, texture size set to 2048, and no anti-aliasing. In game graphic  Map Bump with advanced terrain on which is about it.

I would suggest not buying a laptop especially if your going high end. They are less service and obliviously easier to break.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
You don't. But if you want to play new games coming out then you want to get a good one now that will last you a few years. IMO! Get a toaster if you want.

I'm not gonna be one that installs uber games with crazy graphics, I will get a moderate one I think. I'm not into the high-end games to install on a PC like FSX and expect to run best graphics just something enough for AH and a few other games that are absolutely easy to run.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 02:24:40 PM
I'm not gonna be one that installs uber games with crazy graphics, I will get a moderate one I think. I'm not into the high-end games to install on a PC like FSX and expect to run best graphics just something enough for AH and a few other games that are absolutely easy to run.
The baseline for gaming pcs is around 500$ the lower you go the quality decreases by a greater factor.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 02:49:38 PM
The baseline for gaming pcs is around 500$ the lower you go the quality decreases by a greater factor.

Ok to get started what brand do you suggest getting.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: xPoisonx on December 09, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
Ok to get started what brand do you suggest getting.

I'll let someone whos more knowledgeable on that subject recommend something, I build all mine.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: The Fugitive on December 09, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Ok to get started what brand do you suggest getting.

My brother in law bought this one....or one like it last year. He runs the game pretty much flat out and only dips a bit in the 50 fps when it is real busy around him. These guys have great service, build it and test it before it leaves their shop, have a tech line you can call for free if you have any issues.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/vanquish-ii.asp
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Skyyr on December 09, 2014, 08:16:48 PM
The best bang for the buck is to buy a big box store barebones desktop with a decent processor and lots of open memory slots (like a $300-$400 machine). If you can get an AMD processor, it'll be cheaper. Then buy your own memory ($80) and a decent video card ($150-$200) and you have a machine that's 85% of a gaming rig for 50-60% of the cost.

EDIT: Just make sure the power supply on the computer can handle a discreet (additional gaming) graphics card.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: glzsqd on December 09, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
The best bang for the buck is to buy a big box store barebones desktop with a decent processor and lots of open memory slots (like a $300-$400 machine). If you can get an AMD processor, it'll be cheaper. Then buy your own memory ($80) and a decent video card ($150-$200) and you have a machine that's 85% of a gaming rig for 50-60% of the cost.

^^^^^^ This This This^^^^^^^

All my "Gaming Rigs" in the past have been Dells with added ram and video card.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 09, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
Awesome guys.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: craz07 on December 10, 2014, 03:07:34 AM
^^^
don't act like you don't know what to spend your money on,
umm, if your a teenager in the this country you should know computer
matters better than most people.. bottom line you get what you pay for
before you buy I would reccommend going with best buy,
not only cuz of their selection but because of their return policy
i've used them before they've been great..
go through online so you have access to all their inventory
god willing it's in stock..  so yea.. thats about it, I would say  
either go best buy or tiger direct which is very similiar for computers
really can't complain with either of these
(http://i1.cpcache.com/product/390402539/computer_geek_throw_pillow.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90)
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: glzsqd on December 10, 2014, 03:28:33 AM
don't act like you don't know what to spend your money on,
umm, if your a teenager in the this country you should know computer
matters better than most people..

Where does it say that he should know anything about computers?



Best Buy isn't much different from Micro Center, Staples, or any other large chain distributers. If your smart and avoid the protection plan and software they'll try to sell you, you can get out of there with a relatively good machine for a low price. That's really all you can hope to get from them though. Their tech support is terrible and should be avoided like the plague if your machine is not under warranty.



Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Drano on December 10, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
Whatever you end up buying just be aware if you're gonna pick a ready made Dell or other brand your immediate problem will be with all the crap software they'll load onto it. NONE of that is geared toward a better gaming experience. If you don't know much about computers I suggest educating yourself well enough to disable as much of that as you possibly can--at least while gaming. You might find some of it perfectly useful otherwise but all that extra stuff running while you're trying to play games is gonna be a problem. But by all means max out as much of the hardware as you can afford.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Skyyr on December 10, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
Best Buy isn't much different from Micro Center, Staples, or any other large chain distributers. If your smart and avoid the protection plan and software they'll try to sell you, you can get out of there with a relatively good machine for a low price. That's really all you can hope to get from them though. Their tech support is terrible and should be avoided like the plague if your machine is not under warranty.

This.

Big box retailers and the computers they carry have bad reputations because of the care and warranty plans they sell you, the software they load on the computers, and the overall lack of performance (due to low memory and poor graphics cards - the processors are usually quite decent).

However, if you get a best-selling model like an ASUS or a higher-end HP, and you get it on sale (or even better, open box), and ignore the silly add-on plans they have, you'll have a solid starting point for your gaming system, provided you have memory and graphics card slots open. The only thing you might have to do is remove some 3rd party software - easy enough to do in most cases.

I've been building my own gaming computers for 14 years and the best entry-level gaming system is an barebones-like desktop with added memory and video card. ASUS, Acer, and HP tend to be the better brands to work with in my experience. If you're lucky enough to find them, you can get 4GHz floor-model ASUS desktops for $250 from Best Buy. With a $200 video card and $80 in memory, you have a $530 system that will perform like most $1000-1200 systems. Again, just make sure the power supply can handle an additional video card.
Title: Re: K4 Test.....Need Obvious help....lol
Post by: Someguy63 on December 10, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
Ok I will look for any of those three.

If Im not able to purchase one from BestBuy or anywhere else will an online site like Amazon be in any way acceptable?


I dunno if all the xtra stuff will still be involved in that.