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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: branch37 on December 18, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
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I'm looking for a new monitor that won't break the bank. It will be for gaming primarily. Anyone have any suggestions or know a good place online to do some shopping?
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This is the one I currently have right now and I love the difference. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7674735&Sku= I had triple 24's but opted for larger. Can't say I am disappointed.
LawnDart
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how much money you thinking. breaking the bank is well very misleading.
semp
edit: in my opinion if you gonna go with a good monitor you may want to think higher than 1080p. even if it means waiting a couple of months to save more money.
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Sorry about the Lion's loss to Bremond. It was a good game, though.
About the monitor...I would also specify refresh rates at 144hz. Asus makes a 24" and a 27" that are only a little more expensive.
I have three of the 24's presently and they are easy on my old eyes.
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I just got a 27" 144hz Benq that has been awesome for AH. When I was looking I also saw a decent Acer 24'' 144hz that wasn't too expensive.
Benq 27" $449
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014375&cm_re=144hz_monitor-_-24-014-375-_-Product
Acer 24" 249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009642&cm_re=144hz_monitor-_-24-009-642-_-Product
Asus 24" 279
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313&cm_re=144hz_monitor-_-24-236-313-_-Product
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I was going to post the same as the above post. If you want a really good gaming monitor, a BenQ, Asus, and certain other select models in all the other builders, in 144hz, is a good way to go. 144hz instead of 60hz means you can see up to 144 frames per second instead of a max of 60. Many will say that the "eye can't tell the difference" between anything over about 30, but trust me, anyone who compares a good 60hz to a 144hz side by side, or even within a short period of time of using either, will tell you that 144hz looks much better, particularly with games. I know in AH, I would never, ever go back to 60hz again.
Gsync is ok, but IMO, honestly, it's really not worth the extra $, which is a lot, to get a Gsync monitor for Aces High - certain competitive FPS games, it can make a difference, and there IS a difference and improvement with it, but I would never advise anyone to get it unless they had excess $ or $ was no object. A good 24 or 27" BenQ or Asus 144hz monitor (that gives you 4 to choose from right there) should be within 300 on the low end, and 400ish on the high. The last Asus linked by 38Ruk, I've had 3 of them in the last couple years, as well as the 27" version, and only recently upgraded to a newer 27" 1440p 144hz monitor from them. In truth, the 900$ I spent compared to the 279$ you can get the 24" Asus for - not really worth it, so you're better off with the 24" anyhow IMO. Best $/buck performing monitors I've had, the VH248QE.
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Currently using three Acer's. Considering moving to one of these: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8525799&CatId=5469 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8525799&CatId=5469) or 144mhz. Just not sure.
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Currently using three Acer's. Considering moving to one of these: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8525799&CatId=5469 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8525799&CatId=5469) or 144mhz. Just not sure.
I just found a really good article about overclocking the same series of monitor to get the refresh rate up to 85hz ....which would be a ton smoother than the 60hz Asus has them capped at . looking at posts from peeps with the PB298...they are getting 75hz pretty consistantly some as high as 85. A fast IPS panel would be the best of both worlds .... as TN's do sacrifice a bit of image quality for their 120-144hz speed.
BTW Karaya <S> .... it's been a long time 8)
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/18/overclocking-our-asus-pb278q-monitor-2560x1440-at-85hz/index.html (http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/18/overclocking-our-asus-pb278q-monitor-2560x1440-at-85hz/index.html)
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The prices will be coming down, too. You will be seeing more and more 240Hz, then 480Hz, and even 960Hz.
EDIT: Check this out:
http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/videos/NVIDIA_GSYNC_Product_Video.mp4
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I just found a really good article about overclocking the same series of monitor to get the refresh rate up to 85hz ....which would be a ton smoother than the 60hz Asus has them capped at . looking at posts from peeps with the PB298...they are getting 75hz pretty consistantly some as high as 85. A fast IPS panel would be the best of both worlds .... as TN's do sacrifice a bit of image quality for their 120-144hz speed.
BTW Karaya <S> .... it's been a long time 8)
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/18/overclocking-our-asus-pb278q-monitor-2560x1440-at-85hz/index.html (http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/18/overclocking-our-asus-pb278q-monitor-2560x1440-at-85hz/index.html)
I don't know how good an idea it is to 'overclock' a display. Most displays I've seen will lose image quality if pushed beyond their specs and the degradation may appear only after a weeks use. I'd say that you're better off getting a 'real' 120 or 144hz screen.
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http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271673646046
I just got this over the weekend, I'm thrilled!
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LG34UM95, 34 inch Ultra Wide, best monitor made for Aces High. Like having 2 monitors side by side without the bezel in the middle.
Screenshot:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7580/15521766243_32e4163b18_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDB7kn)
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LG34UM95, 34 inch Ultra Wide, best monitor made for Aces High. Like having 2 monitors side by side without the bezel in the middle.
Screenshot:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7580/15521766243_32e4163b18_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDB7kn)
Many ultra wide monitors suffer from a high input lag. With AH that's not going to be a problem but if you play first person shooters also it's definately something to look out for. I recommend to check reviews and look for input lag measurements when shopping for a monitor.
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Many ultra wide monitors suffer from a high input lag. With AH that's not going to be a problem but if you play first person shooters also it's definately something to look out for. I recommend to check reviews and look for input lag measurements when shopping for a monitor.
the one he listed is rated at 5ms. That's pretty darn good in my book.
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how much money you thinking. breaking the bank is well very misleading.
semp
edit: in my opinion if you gonna go with a good monitor you may want to think higher than 1080p. even if it means waiting a couple of months to save more money.
I wish you had to come to Michigan for something, then I could make you a deal on your monitors... :)
Coogan
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the one he listed is rated at 5ms. That's pretty darn good in my book.
No monitor is 'rated' for input lag. This monitor has a 24ms input lag which makes it non suitable for serious fps gaming: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34um95.htm
You're confusing g2g response times to input lag apparently. Folks, g2g response does NOT equal input lag. Even the measured g2g time is 9,5ms on this screen.
(http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/lg_34um95/lag.png)
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No monitor is 'rated' for input lag. This monitor has a 24ms input lag which makes it non suitable for serious fps gaming: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34um95.htm
You're confusing g2g response times to input lag apparently. Folks, g2g response does NOT equal input lag. Even the measured g2g time is 9,5ms on this screen.
(http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/lg_34um95/lag.png)
you're right, I was thinking response time.
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My Acer 1600x900 is slowly committing suicide, was wondering if anyone knew if I could get a decent 1920x1080 for around $100-150?
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My Acer 1600x900 is slowly committing suicide, was wondering if anyone knew if I could get a decent 1920x1080 for around $100-150?
Look for Benq reviews. It's awesome value for money. Another one is Acer but I wouldn't pick that brand myself, too many bad experiences.
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Thanks for that, found this http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GW2255-21-5-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B00AX9Z6MU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420699442&sr=1-1&keywords=BenQ+VA+LED+GW2255+21.5-Inch+Screen+LED-lit+Monitor
Looks pretty good to me, might be able to get it next month. :banana: In the mean time I'll have to use an old HP 1024x768 if the Acer pops its caps before then. :uhoh :cry
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No monitor is 'rated' for input lag. This monitor has a 24ms input lag which makes it non suitable for serious fps gaming: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_34um95.htm
You're confusing g2g response times to input lag apparently. Folks, g2g response does NOT equal input lag. Even the measured g2g time is 9,5ms on this screen.
(http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/lg_34um95/lag.png)
I was reading on a site that 24ms is exceptionally fast,well atleast as far as an HDTV goes and according to the site while not ideal for competitive FPS games it certainly would be acceptable.
My vision is rather poor so I need a large display,presently I use an LG 55 in monitor/tv. It;s rated at 120hz but I can only get it to run at 60 with a pc. I have been exploring overclocking it to run at 120hz as I wait for either an OLED or better yet a 4K OLED to play nice with video cards!
I was surprised to see some HDTV's had input lag of up to 90ms,the average was about 40 and the ones considered "good" for gaming were in the mid30's to high 20's, IIRC the best I saw was about 18ms in a dedicated pc monitor.
:salute
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I was reading on a site that 24ms is exceptionally fast,well atleast as far as an HDTV goes and according to the site while not ideal for competitive FPS games it certainly would be acceptable.
My vision is rather poor so I need a large display,presently I use an LG 55 in monitor/tv. It;s rated at 120hz but I can only get it to run at 60 with a pc. I have been exploring overclocking it to run at 120hz as I wait for either an OLED or better yet a 4K OLED to play nice with video cards!
I was surprised to see some HDTV's had input lag of up to 90ms,the average was about 40 and the ones considered "good" for gaming were in the mid30's to high 20's, IIRC the best I saw was about 18ms in a dedicated pc monitor.
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A TV is not suitable for fast gaming, you are correct. Even the best of the TVs have considerable lag. There are monitors that have virtually zero input lag. Their lag consists mainly of the display panel delays.
In fast first person shooters input lag causes your shots to miss because when you try to track your enemy you don't see what's actually happening but what happened 50-100ms before. In fast movements this is enough to make you miss your shots or lose the duel when an enemy pops from behind an obstacle.
For Aces High input lag is not an issue because everything happens much slower.
Here's one source that lists input lags per monitor model (the same site also contains comparisons for HDTV:s by the way) http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/
This database lacks many brands such as Eizo which is famous for building low input lag monitors. Eizos Foris line is specially built to eliminate input lag. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1383107475
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) http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/
so the HDTVs on this site with sub 20 lag would be great for FPS and AH?
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so the HDTVs on this site with sub 20 lag would be great for FPS and AH?
For HDTVs they're very good yes. If you must game using a tv these are the ones to pick.
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Used my credit card points and got gift card to the dell outlet. Bought a refurbished monitor for 225 Nice big awesome one. And it works great
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For HDTVs they're very good yes. If you must game using a tv these are the ones to pick.
where could I look to see my current TVs lag?
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where could I look to see my current TVs lag?
Short of Googling 'your tv make and model input lag' I can't say :) And remember that if you Google for TV input lag, you need to be _very_ specific in the tv model number. For example Sony 655303 and Sony 655302 may have same features, look exactly the same but be built with a different hardware, other has cheaper LCD panel, cheaper image processing etc.
If it's not on the list I provided then it's Google for me too.