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Title: PTBoats
Post by: Nosara on December 21, 2014, 07:36:22 PM
Whenever I up a PT Boat I notice the radar antenna spinning hard at work. How about letting us see the PT radar screen when we up one.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: BaldEagl on December 21, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
FYI it was surface to surface radar on PT's.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Latrobe on December 21, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Use PTs to hunt for CVs then? PT can finally have some purpose other than cannon fodder when the carrier dies :)

Have it so if you get within a certain range of an enemy cv it shows up on the map.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Someguy63 on December 22, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
^^
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Tilt on December 22, 2014, 06:42:31 AM
Use PTs to hunt for CVs then? PT can finally have some purpose other than cannon fodder when the carrier dies :)


This....

plus does the PT enjoy the same icon status as GV's?     
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Someguy63 on December 22, 2014, 01:40:17 PM
This....

plus does the PT enjoy the same icon status as GV's?     

Yes
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: hitech on December 22, 2014, 03:28:04 PM
Whenever I up a PT Boat I notice the radar antenna spinning hard at work. How about letting us see the PT radar screen when we up one.


I sorta like this idea.

HiTech
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 22, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
What kind of radar is on the PT boat we have?  The early SCR-517A or one of the later SO type radars? 

ack-ack
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: fbEagle on December 22, 2014, 10:38:01 PM
I sorta like this idea.

HiTech

 :O  Has this ever happened before!! Not that I recall!  :old:


+1 by the way
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: The Fugitive on December 23, 2014, 11:24:57 AM
:O  Has this ever happened before!! Not that I recall!  :old:


+1 by the way

Yes, one other time. Two weeks later Hitech was getting hate mail because it wasn't in the game yet.  :D
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Arlo on December 23, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
It's not in the game yet. What's up with that?!  :mad:
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: darkzking on December 23, 2014, 01:24:18 PM
this idea sounds awesome and would make for more reasons to use the Croc of the OCEAN!  :D
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Bastid on December 25, 2014, 05:36:25 PM
The one that worked.  DUH


What kind of radar is on the PT boat we have?  The early SCR-517A or one of the later SO type radars? 

ack-ack
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Blade on December 25, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
+1
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: MrKrabs on December 26, 2014, 03:40:35 AM
I sorta like this idea.

HiTech

Holy &*#$  :joystick:
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Mongoose on December 26, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Has this ever happened before!! Not that I recall!

I remember a suggestion where Hitech essentially said, "Rats.  I just finished the next update.  It's too late to include this."

Not only was it a good idea, it was one that was easy to code.  And it did show up in the next update.

So Hitech does read these wishes, he just doesn't normally comment.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Arlo on December 26, 2014, 12:17:23 PM
So Hitech does read these wishes, he just doesn't normally comment.

Can't say as I blame him much, the current state of the wishlist crowd, by and large (self included, even).
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: The Fugitive on December 26, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
Can't say as I blame him much, the current state of the wishlist crowd, by and large (self included, even).

I agree, but I think if he did post more and whether the storm so to speak it would get easier. Right now everyone would be all over any post he made whether they agreed or didn't and all the "whys" involved, but I think over time people would finally get the idea he knows what he is talking about and understand the whys of what he does. Then the posting would calm down.

If people could just accept the answers given we might get more answers.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Aspen on December 26, 2014, 01:34:15 PM
My guess is that HTC values the wish list and pays attention to it.  They are smart enough to know that the next great idea could easily come from the thousands of players instead inside their office.  Thats why the wish list exists.  

Keep in mind that a lot of the wishes are either just plain bad, have unintended consequences or don't fit the direction they are taking the game.  Our job is to throw stuff at the wall.  If its meant to stick, it will.  If its a bad idea, bad timing, too complex, etc, etc, etc...I don't need HTC spending time explaining why my wish isn't happening.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: CAV on December 27, 2014, 11:22:11 PM


I would like to see a Range finder/sight for the Torps....


Cavalry
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: bustr on December 28, 2014, 06:26:32 PM
Wonder if this was something he was meaning to get back to and was too busy growing the game.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: MrKrabs on December 29, 2014, 04:02:50 AM
Wonder if this was something he was meaning to get back to and was too busy growing the game.

Or he was putzing around with a new radar system alltogether  :devil
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Hetzer7 on December 29, 2014, 12:46:17 PM

I would like to see a Range finder/sight for the Torps....


Cavalry

IF anything for the pt make it this!
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Mister Fork on December 31, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
+1 - kind of how a PBY would work in the arena - a mobile surface radar that would allow all in that country to see what they would see on the surface.  If enemy ships show up, it should also show up on the clipboard of everyone in the country ...

... no different than it would be broadcasted out to all in-air pilots from the CAC centre in WWII - were they would take their chess-like-map and put an enemy ship on the board and move it to the position reported and then announced out over the air or via secure channel message.

I.e. ALL AIRMEN ALL AIRMEN. STOP. ENEMY CONVOY SPOTTED. STOP. LAT 41°24'12.2"NORTH 2°10'26.5"EAST AT 1315 ZULU HEADING EAST SOUTH EAST 20 KNOTS. STOP. REPORT UPDATES TO COMBAT AIR CONTROL IF SPOTTED. STOP.

That is how it would be broadcasted out in WWII... in Aces High...it should just appear as one of the enemy colors on the map and perhaps pulse to indicate a radar feed?

Hitech - most PTs were fitted with Raytheon SO radar - all had about a 17 nm range.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Arlo on January 01, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
This thread may appreciate:

http://www.maritime.org/doc/pt/doctrine/part4.htm
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: atlau on January 02, 2015, 01:55:39 PM
How about if each CV had 8 PT spawns surrounding the CV? give the PT boats different places to start.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on January 04, 2015, 02:04:58 AM
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How about if each CV had 8 PT spawns surrounding the CV? give the PT boats different places to start.

sounds fair


LtngRydr
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Hetzer7 on January 06, 2015, 09:57:01 AM
How about if each CV had 8 PT spawns surrounding the CV? give the PT boats different places to start.

Good idea  :aok
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 06, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
Use PTs to hunt for CVs then? PT can finally have some purpose other than cannon fodder when the carrier dies :)

Have it so if you get within a certain range of an enemy cv it shows up on the map.

This is not a bad idea.

I also vote for allowing LTVs to spawn wherever PTS spawn
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: HawkerMKII on January 12, 2015, 06:29:26 AM
Why just have dar work on PT's when all the ships in a task group have it? Is the cv the only one that has surface to air?
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: BuckShot on January 14, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
An aiming device for the rockets would be nice. I'm usually almost out by the time I'm on target.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 14, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Why just have dar work on PT's when all the ships in a task group have it? Is the cv the only one that has surface to air?

I don't think the SO surface search radars were able to pick out air contacts.  In any event, for air threats the primary detection system used by PT Boats were the Mark I I-Ball coupled with a binocular.  The SO radar was also used primarily at night for navigation and to locate Japanese shipping.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Mongoose on January 14, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
for air threats the primary detection system used by PT Boats were the Mark I I-Ball coupled with a binocular. 

I hope you meant Mark I Eyeball.  The way you wrote it, I first read it as Mark II ball, which just brings too many off-the-wall thoughts to mind.  (Rubber ball?  B.A.L.L., an acronym for some type of navigation device?....)
     :headscratch:
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Mano on January 17, 2015, 07:45:33 PM
+1

 :aok
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 21, 2015, 04:35:35 PM
The way I would see the PT Boat radar working (and keeping in line how the SO and SO-3 type radars worked) is they'd be able to detect any ships within range (20-23 nautical miles) and then the ships (CV task force) would show up on the 'dar map as a base icon, like how the base icons appear on the map.  The PT boats would not detect aircraft since they didn't carry surface to air radar in real life.
Title: Re: PTBoats
Post by: Tilt on January 22, 2015, 03:20:20 AM
Think I would go with a RL implementation.

PT boat captain can see it on his FE and radios it in on channel.

Whilst the PT has used boat borne radar the CV has no more been detected than if it were over flown by an AC.