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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Meatwad on December 26, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
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Anyone here by chance know who/where you report towers that no longer have working beacons? There is a 1000ft tower that is completely dark as of a few days ago
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When in doubt, start with the police. The FAA may be in charge of them but again, the police will point you in the rigbt direction or more likely address it themselves due to potential public safety issues.
Bizarre they all went out though.
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Noticed it for a while, but the beacons went out this fall and now the side markers just recently went out too. Its an active unmanned site owned by Pax television, but you would of thought they would of did something by now
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Anyone here by chance know who/where you report towers that no longer have working beacons? There is a 1000ft tower that is completely dark as of a few days ago
:airplane: In your local phone book under Government listings, you will find "FAA General Aviation District Offices", usually an 800 number...just call them and advise!
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FAA.
Also call the station and ask to speak with the Chief Engineer (this may be a person who is the CE for numerous stations in the area). If not, the General Manager and tell them the tower beacon is out and is a hazard to air traffic until repaired.
Once notified, the CE or GM is REQUIRED to themselves call the FAA and report it. It's the law to report it as people have died as a result. If you get stonewalled call the FAA office in St Louis or Indianapolis.
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If the FAA is not directly responsible they will without a doubt know who is.
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Call the FAA. But I can tell you they won't do anything about it. I worked at a radio station whose 500ft tower was dark for nearly a year and it was within 5 miles of the airport. Nobody did anything about it being dark. It was almost a year before it was lit again.
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Call the FAA. But I can tell you they won't do anything about it. I worked at a radio station whose 500ft tower was dark for nearly a year and it was within 5 miles of the airport. Nobody did anything about it being dark. It was almost a year before it was lit again.
Not unusual really.
Once officially notified to the FAA, the issue becomes a notice to all filing flight plans anywhere near the tower (mostly General Aviation, not high altitude commercial) as an information item. It may or may not be on regional NOLAs but locals definitely need that info. While some large market stations may have a tower firm (independent from the radio station CE(s)) those folks are usually regional, expensive, and run ragged. It can easily take up to a year for them to get around to a smaller station on the que and replace the light(s).
One FM I worked at in NC had a 1,500' tower. It took a good 9 months for them to get to us and when they did the three man crew split $15 grand to replace two beacon lights and replace a transmission array bay (half the size of a hula hoop) that was pitted to beat the band with lightning strikes. That was 1995 money. Gonna be more now.
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If an a/c hit the tower at night, would the tower owner be libel?
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If an a/c hit the tower at night, would the tower owner be libel?
No, but he might be liable. :P
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There's a 1500' tower right in the middle of the training area where I learned to fly. It always made me nervous. particularly in lowish cloud and on misty days. It is lit by strobes but the stay wires were not. The only good thing about it is that it's a radio station so you can tune to the frequency on the ADF and fly in the opposite direction to the needle.
The only thing more scary than flying into one would be climbing one!
Check out this video on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI
I get vertigo just watching it. Yes pilots can be scared of heights.
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There's a 1500' tower right in the middle of the training area where I learned to fly. It always made me nervous. particularly in lowish cloud and on misty days. It is lit by strobes but the stay wires were not. The only good thing about it is that it's a radio station so you can tune to the frequency on the ADF and fly in the opposite direction to the needle.
The only thing more scary than flying into one would be climbing one!
Check out this video on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI
I get vertigo just watching it. Yes pilots can be scared of heights.
I wouldn't climb that if there were a billion dollars waiting for me at the top. :uhoh
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Not that video again!!! *straps on parachute and crawls into a hole*
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That was amazing!
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I'd like to see that in 3D with oculus rift lol.
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No, but he might be liable. :P
What if he blames the pilot
He is liable to be libel
:)
NwBie
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There's a 1500' tower right in the middle of the training area where I learned to fly. It always made me nervous. particularly in lowish cloud and on misty days. It is lit by strobes but the stay wires were not. The only good thing about it is that it's a radio station so you can tune to the frequency on the ADF and fly in the opposite direction to the needle.
The only thing more scary than flying into one would be climbing one!
Check out this video on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI
I get vertigo just watching it. Yes pilots can be scared of heights.
The highest Ive been is 10 stories on this bank
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/PA_Bank.jpg/220px-PA_Bank.jpg)
In fact Ive stood on the top ledge of that bank and climbed off of the roof and down a single rope with no safety harness (screw OSHA) down 3 stories to get on a rope swing scaffold (the guy I worked for didnt believe in those newfangled electrical things) but that was when I was 22 and thought myself immortal.
Today I wouldn't have any problem climbing up the tower. That last bit on the outside might give me pause though
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Once you're up 30 feet, any higher doesn't really matter.
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Once you're up 30 feet, any higher doesn't really matter.
That was the mindset I used to overcome any fears when I worked as a steeplejack. Which was the company I worked for when I was working on that bank.
Then as i got older I began to consider that while higher doesn't matter result wise. It does give you more time to think about it on the way down.Ive had ladders drop out form underneath me. Under 20 feet it happens so fast you hit the ground before you realize you fell.
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correction not NOLA, NTAA Notice To All Airmen is the old fashioned term. NOLA is where you get to see jugoodahs for pretty strings of beads. :D