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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gman on January 02, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/30/50th-anniversary-shelby-cobra-427-announced/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork
The Shelby Cobra has already had a 50th anniversary or two, depending on the model being celebrated. This time, the half-century mark comes for the 427, and it bears some special equipment to mark the occasion—and the car’s legendary performance.
Just 50 examples of the 50th Anniversary Shelby Cobra 427 will be sold, all bearing gold 50th anniversary badges and logos, plus a range of unique features. All examples will feature either aluminum or fiberglass bodies, offered in either Polished Aluminum or Guardsman Blue/Wimbledon White stripe exteriors (fiberglass carsare offered only in the blue/white combo).
As with previous 50th anniversary examples, cars in this run will bear the special CSX serial number prefix, in this case running from CSX4550-CSX4599. Each carwill also bear its place in the total run of 50 cars on a special badge (numbered “1 of 50”, “2 of 50”, etc.)
Each of the 50th anniversary 427s also features elements authentic to the original, but reinterpreted to modern standards and materials, including high-end leather, upgraded modern brake components, and stiffer frames. Dual A-arm suspensionwith coil-over shocks complement the stiffer frame and modern brakes.
Fiberglass models start from $119,995, while aluminum-bodied examples start at $179,995—though you’ll have to add your own engine and transmission to each. Orders open Tuesday, January 13 at 10 am PST.
Interesting, but I don't understand why they would go through all the trouble for just 50 models only. IMO if they were to manufacture a much larger number, they could probably lower the price and sell a ton of these - I'd be in the running for one for certain, as the older original cars, and even kit/rebuilds/whatever are very hard to come by in Canada.
Interesting none the less that they are doing this.
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/30/50th-anniversary-shelby-cobra-427-announced/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork
Interesting, but I don't understand why they would go through all the trouble for just 50 models only. IMO if they were to manufacture a much larger number, they could probably lower the price and sell a ton of these - I'd be in the running for one for certain, as the older original cars, and even kit/rebuilds/whatever are very hard to come by in Canada.
Interesting none the less that they are doing this.
That's a lot of money for a glorified kit car. I'd build a FFR kit for half the price and make my own "limited Edition" badge.
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/30/50th-anniversary-shelby-cobra-427-announced/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork
Interesting, but I don't understand why they would go through all the trouble for just 50 models only. IMO if they were to manufacture a much larger number, they could probably lower the price and sell a ton of these - I'd be in the running for one for certain, as the older original cars, and even kit/rebuilds/whatever are very hard to come by in Canada.
Interesting none the less that they are doing this.
They don't want to sell a ton of them. Value is based upon numbers. If you recall the Ford GT... Ford easily could have updated the car and produced it for many more years. They made a deliberate decision not to. Why? It added substantial value to those that were built. The typical used Ford GT demands as much as $100,000 more than the original cost. Autoweek is reporting that Ford will likely build a new GT, one designed to compete with the latest crop of supercars. Again, it will certainly be a limited production, short duration run of cars.
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That's a lot of money for a glorified kit car. I'd build a FFR kit for half the price and make my own "limited Edition" badge.
.....and you'll still not have a CSX. Nothing glorified about it. If you have the money to buy a legitmate updeated Shelby Chassis/Body, you can opt in or continue to go through CAV/Superformance for a kit. Yes, there are more manufacturers out there, but those two are ahead of the game.
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They don't want to sell a ton of them. Value is based upon numbers. If you recall the Ford GT... Ford easily could have updated the car and produced it for many more years. They made a deliberate decision not to. Why? It added substantial value to those that were built. The typical used Ford GT demands as much as $100,000 more than the original cost. Autoweek is reporting that Ford will likely build a new GT, one designed to compete with the latest crop of supercars. Again, it will certainly be a limited production, short duration run of cars.
Correct on all accounts. Everyone always gripes about the "lack of performance in the GT", but they never were produced to compete, as the GT40 was. The Forc GT was just a fresh update on a car/manufacturer who created an icon for the LeMans. The new ones should be a little bit of both. More oomph than the mid-00's and a fresher design yet again. Looking forward to it.
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.....and you'll still not have a CSX.
Correct! I wont have a CSX badge, but I'll have a ton of money left over and no one will be able to tell the difference. Not only that, but I will also be able to flog the hell out of the car and enjoy driving it like it was built for instead of it sitting in an air bubble in a collectors garage.
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Correct! I wont have a CSX badge, but I'll have a ton of money left over and no one will be able to tell the difference. Not only that, but I will also be able to flog the hell out of the car and enjoy driving it like it was built for instead of it sitting in an air bubble in a collectors garage.
You can tell the difference between them, if you cannot, well then that is your fault. Keep belittling the Cobra owners though, because most of them (NOT ALL) get seat time at the tracks. I wonder how many Vettes actually get seat time on a track? :uhoh The ratio tilts in the Cobra's favor and yeah, most of them get flogged.
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You can tell the difference between them, if you cannot, well then that is your fault. Keep belittling the Cobra owners though, because most of them (NOT ALL) get seat time at the tracks. I wonder how many Vettes actually get seat time on a track? :uhoh The ratio tilts in the Cobra's favor and yeah, most of them get flogged.
lol. I must have struck sensitive a cord with you. I never belittled cobra owners. I simply stated I would rather buy a FFR kit for half the price. Only hard core cobra enthusiast would be able to tell the difference on the street by looking at the cars. 95% of the population wouldn't know the difference. I'm not sure why you brought corvettes into this. Isn't this about cobras? I seriously doubt "most" get flogged. I bet "most" are garage queens and only a few owners actually enjoy the cars as they were meant to.
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lol. I must have struck sensitive a cord with you. I never belittled cobra owners. I simply stated I would rather buy a FFR kit for half the price. Only hard core cobra enthusiast would be able to tell the difference on the street by looking at the cars. 95% of the population wouldn't know the difference. I'm not sure why you brought corvettes into this. Isn't this about cobras? I seriously doubt "most" get flogged. I bet "most" are garage queens and only a few owners actually enjoy the cars as they were meant to.
I see Sliver's point! I wouldnt flog around a real cobra for fear of cracking it up,never mind the stone chips and bird dodo!
However I bet if I could afford a real cobra I could likely afford a kit too!
The smart man would have 1 of each so he could keep his baby safely tucked in at night.... :D :D
Another thing to consider,you wouldnt want to change a single thing on the real cobra but on the kit you could have all the performance and safety of modern equipment and not feel guilty in trashing it around.
1 of my uncles worked for Ford for years,when he retired he got one of those new GT's. I've never had the opportunity to even see the car in person,let alone have a ride but he says it's a nice car just not very practical.
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The ford GT is was a full on production car and is just as servicable as one.
You can idle one all day long in the drive thru at mcdonalds without issue while the a/c blasts.
When you put one on a lift and a lambo or ferrari on the next lift over, it becomes immediately apparent which car is better.
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The ford GT is was a full on production car and is just as servicable as one.
You can idle one all day long in the drive thru at mcdonalds without issue while the a/c blasts.
When you put one on a lift and a lambo or ferrari on the next lift over, it becomes immediately apparent which car is better.
I never said it wasnt a serviceable car,I said he told me it wasnt practical as in everyday use or long trips.
I however dont own one so I cant say one way or the other. What I do know is if you remove the rear clip you can get at just about everything in the drive train and the suspension.
:salute
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Did. Polish aluminum 427 looks so sweet!
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lol. I must have struck sensitive a cord with you. I never belittled cobra owners. I simply stated I would rather buy a FFR kit for half the price. Only hard core cobra enthusiast would be able to tell the difference on the street by looking at the cars. 95% of the population wouldn't know the difference. I'm not sure why you brought corvettes into this. Isn't this about cobras? I seriously doubt "most" get flogged. I bet "most" are garage queens and only a few owners actually enjoy the cars as they were meant to.
You struck nothing and are still pretending more Split Windows "are used as intended" and not trailered. Please continue. This is funny.
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You struck nothing and are still pretending more Split Windows "are used as intended" and not trailered. Please continue. This is funny.
:huh I still fail to see why you are bringing corvettes into this as they have nothing to do with the thread at hand. :headscratch:
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Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti and the many others.... Toys for rich boys...
Give me a 1966 Lola T70 Mk.3 and I'll be happy...
Jim Pace, winner of the 1996 Daytona 24 Hours in a Riley & Scott Mk. III, sometimes does vintage races. Unlike some, he actually races at the limits of the vehicles.
Here's Pace's Riley & Scott, which he shared with Scott Sharp and Wayne Taylor.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/16453_10205678579989153_8445573150276774525_n.jpg?oh=205b2dfc0122ece3a8aa92f02a85ad1d&oe=55293D4D&__gda__=1430217072_a8aa212c05af879318da4d32bbe59a1b)
These old USRRC and early CAN-AM cars don't have wings, ground effects, sequential or toggle shifted gearboxes. They don't have ceramic rotors and exotic brake pads. Performance is totally driver dependent. Small block Chevy engines, Lucas fuel injection.. All old school. Put your typical F1 hotshoe in one of these, and he'd have re-learn how drive without the electronic and aero aids. As a teenager, I got to watch all of the USSRC and CAN-AM races at Bridgehampton in the mid 60s through the end of the series. Watching these cars driven as their designers intended brings back the memories and excitement of those days long gone...
So, click on the links, turn up the sound, sit back and enjoy the way it used to be....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DN4BUBF_Xo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DN4BUBF_Xo)
Racing an Ex-John Surtees T70. Using the same vintage compound tires, Pace turns a lap 2 seconds faster than Surtees did in the same car, in 1967.... At Elkhart Lake, now called Road America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A59ViKFoMyA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A59ViKFoMyA)
Here we have JP driving a 1968 McLaren M6B, powered by a vintage 5.6 liter Chevy small block. He's racing with a 7 litre McLaren M8F and a 7 liter UOP Shadow. The power difference is apparent, but not quite enough....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1up3ukikU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1up3ukikU)
Gurney and Surtees, 1966....
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:huh I still fail to see why you are bringing corvettes into this as they have nothing to do with the thread at hand. :headscratch:
Keep swinging.
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Keep swinging.
my wife and I try to as often as we can. Thanks :aok
ps. That also has nothing to do with this topic..... :neener:
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Certainly not a car for everyone, but it will retain more value, over time, as compared to any other kit car.
Just as Kirkhams are not for everyone, just as FFR's are not for everyone. I am pretty certain there is not one of the representative cars which can be all things to all people. Could be why there are so many makes to chose from today.
Just FYI, these cars will see track time. Yes, some will be hid away by collectors, but even $100K Kirkhams are put on the track.
One of my friends owns a Kirkham, a McLaren F1, and a Ford GT. He tracks all of them. Not everyone hides these collectibles away.
Cobra owners are an odd lot. None of them really think their car is better than another one. Instead, they pitch in and help everyone make each car as good as a representative of the model as it can be. Kirkham, Superperformance, and CSX owners all work hard to maintain accuracy of the car. Everyone else does what they want to make their car, their car.
I know people who are drooling to get one on these. I hope they can.