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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Serenity on January 04, 2015, 09:26:13 PM
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Well, it took a 12 hour round-trip drive, but we brought our newest family member home!
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Kaiser is a pure-bred German Shepherd, just over 10 weeks old! My whole life I've wanted a German Shepherd, so he's the perfect first dog! He's a real troublemaker already, chewing on everything EXCEPT the chew toys, but he's incredibly sweet and well behaved otherwise (He slept through the whole car drive home, and didn't give us any trouble). I'll be taking him in for a check up in the next day or two just to make sure, but he seems healthy and very happy!
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Very cute, I know a few people who own German Shepherds, they are very nice dogs if properly trained, like any other dogs. If I were to get a dog, it would be a German Sheared.
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Get a proper sized cage and use it!
It will help in training and keep the dog safe when you're not around. As soon as it eats take it out,as soon as you are done playing or training take it out. If you do these simple things the dog will be trained in no time. But remember until it is 6 months old it's still a baby and doesnt have full control so accidents will happen.
Some people think a cage is cruel but if it's the proper size and kept covered the dog will naturally go to it. The cage will become it's space,my dogs all sleep in their cages,the doors are never closed now that they are trained but a puppy often needs to be protected from itself!
You wouldnt want to come home to a dog that chewed a lamp cord and electrocuted itself,or worse burnt the house down in the process.
If you dont have a lot of experience raising dogs,go to a obedience course to train the owner how to train the dog!
Good luck,a well trained shepard is always an excellent dog!
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Awesome breed. We raised Sheps in Dallas for years but that was a long time ago. Almost a different dog. Good lookin' pup there for sure.
Since we all seem to assume you're unable to care for your new boy I'll add the only advice I can. Be consistent and enthusiastically reinforce the behavior you expect. Put the animal in a cage and I'll strongly suggest an bellybutton kicking. Unless of course you're tryin to start a dog zoo.....Nevermind. Even zoos gave up on cages decades ago.
If you can't train the animal, trust him alone with your priceless possessions, or can't handle the associated effluvia of canine cohabitation...just get a freekin' goldfish. As far as that stupidity about how "they like their cage"..who wants to bet I can get any member of this board to "like" being caged with less than 6 months. My rules of course but I guarantee results. There's not a critter alive that would ever choose to be caged. If you have to cage your pet. It's not a pet and you don't deserve their company.
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Awww.
We have always had Sheps, until the current Cocker.
Great dogs!!!
Congrats.
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the resemblance is astounding :D
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Awesome breed. We raised Sheps in Dallas for years but that was a long time ago. Almost a different dog. Good lookin' pup there for sure.
Since we all seem to assume you're unable to care for your new boy I'll add the only advice I can. Be consistent and enthusiastically reinforce the behavior you expect. Put the animal in a cage and I'll strongly suggest an bellybutton kicking. Unless of course you're tryin to start a dog zoo.....Nevermind. Even zoos gave up on cages decades ago.
If you can't train the animal, trust him alone with your priceless possessions, or can't handle the associated effluvia of canine cohabitation...just get a freekin' goldfish. As far as that stupidity about how "they like their cage"..who wants to bet I can get any member of this board to "like" being caged with less than 6 months. My rules of course but I guarantee results. There's not a critter alive that would ever choose to be caged. If you have to cage your pet. It's not a pet and you don't deserve their company.
Geeze I must have been doing something wrong for the past 35 years raising dogs!
I had no idea they dislike cages,funny mine is sleeping in her's ATM! And it's not locked or is she closed in it.
Having a cage isnt cruel! A dog will live in a small hole in the ground,what difference does a cage make.... But hey to each there own,I offered some advice to help stop the dog chewing on everything.
It's obvious you never raised show dogs,they are kept crated as a rule!
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Nice looking pup Serenity. :aok
Listen to Morfiend. Crate training isn't cruel. Having trained in confirmation and currently own working dogs (Alaskan Malamutes), a crate is very important. Any dog can be crate trained. It's not a tool to punish like some people think.
PM me if you want a few tips. Congrats again, bud. :cheers:
Obie
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Thanks for all the tips gentlemen! This is my first dog, so I have a lot to learn. He just got back from a vet checkup, weighing in at 19lbs at 10 weeks! He's in great health, and we've got him on a health plan with preventative visits. He starts obedience training this coming Saturday, and we're very excited. We plan to get a big crate for when we're not home to keep him safe (he'll eat his meals in there to feel comfortable) but considering I'm in pool, so I'm home all day, he won't HAVE to be in it much at all. I'm very excited! He's just great temperament-wise.
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Great looking pup, we've had three black and tan Shepard's in a row now, truly the best, all three we used cages with, in addition it gives them there own place to go when their tired or need a break.
One more piece of dog training advice? Keep commands to as few words as possible and always use the same word for a particular command/request of the dog
Good luck and enjoy
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Thanks for all the tips gentlemen! This is my first dog, so I have a lot to learn. He just got back from a vet checkup, weighing in at 19lbs at 10 weeks! He's in great health, and we've got him on a health plan with preventative visits. He starts obedience training this coming Saturday, and we're very excited. We plan to get a big crate for when we're not home to keep him safe (he'll eat his meals in there to feel comfortable) but considering I'm in pool, so I'm home all day, he won't HAVE to be in it much at all. I'm very excited! He's just great temperament-wise.
I hope you like vacuuming a lot... I swear Shepard's shed their weight in fur...
They are however a very smart breed for the most part.
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The obedience training will teach you how to train the dog,just remember you must be atleast as smart as the dog and twice as stubborn. :rofl
Working breeds make good first time dogs,they want to please the master!
Be firm but fair,never punish the dog for your mistakes. If the dog soils in the house,clean it but save some of the paper towel and take that outside,then take the dog to the paper and let it smell it! It will soon learn thats the place to do it's business.
If you watch closely the dog will let you know when it needs to go,they have signals like circling around and sniffing the ground or floor while turning. Once the dog does it's thing outside give it praise and make a big deal about it,this will encourage the dog to behave as you want.
Good luck,it's a nice looking pup,would be nice to see a pic of just the dog standing!
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listen to Morph he knows what he's talking about. Very good looking dog you got there. Enjoy getting 10X the love back that you put in.
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I had a pedigreed white female German Shepard raised from a pup when I was in college. This was after having dogs my entire life growing up in the country. At the time I lived with three other guys who teased her relentlessly. This didn't go well as she mistrusted all humans (except me and my immediate family). She was mean and should have been put down but, as with most owners and their dogs, we had a relationship that I couldn't let go of. She had to be leashed or at least closely watched around any strangers.
I had her bred to a championship white male and she had 11 puppies which I raised alone in an efficiency apartment. At eight weeks I sold nine of the pups, kept one and gave one to a girl I knew at which point I finally did have the mother put down after biting someone walking past a neighboring apartment building.
My pup (another female) was completely obedience trained at three months. She was extremely friendly and always stayed in the yard. Until one day. I heard a yelp. As I ran out the door she'd crawled up onto the porch after being hit by a car in the street. I picked her up, put her in the back seat of my station wagon and raced 100 mph to the vet. Her body was already stiffening by the time I carried her in. That was the last (and best) dog I owned.
The pup I gave away to the girl won 2nd place in the Canadian National Obedience trials at 2 years.
Last summer I ran across someone walking a white male around the lake across the street from me. He was a very friendly pup. It made me think for a minute about getting another one but they are a big commitment. I'd never own anything other than a Shepard at this point and probably nothing other than a white one. They are extremely smart and loyal.
Take care of your pup. Train him/her early. You'll have the best and certainly the most loyal friend you've ever had and hopefully for years to come.
BTW, that part about having to vacuum A LOT is no joke.
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BTW, that part about having to vacuum A LOT is no joke.
Lol tell me about it. Our cat likes to jump to my lap and 'help' me type. I'm wearing a black polo shirt that used to look fresh off the shelf and 1 minute later I look like a cro-magnon man. 100% hair coverage.
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"It's obvious you never raised show dogs,they are kept crated as a rule!"
Obvious to whom? Likely not someone who can't comprehend the language (that means it looks like somebody can't read very well)...If one is unaware of how to treat a breed that is as familiar to humanity as canines I'd say one has severely limited observational skills. And if you are having trouble with teething send me a pm. Isolation and confinement are for felons, not a critter that's got a few hundred generations compelling a much different environment.
When somebody can show me an example of self imposed confinement in any natural setting I might reconsider the facts. Until then cage an animal and you're being lazy and selfish. A show dog breeder is likely the last place I'd go for advice on anything save grooming hints. Really no different than trusting the child rearing tips of a pageant mom. Sheps are pretty much drip dry dogs whose typical owner loves the animal much more than the attention owning him provides. Folks (like us) that spent years distilling the breed are to thank for the ease of training you should enjoy. They love structure and predictability. If you can provide that you should have a happy dog. Make it clear what you expect and he'll have a happy you.
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Awesome breed. We raised Sheps in Dallas for years but that was a long time ago. Almost a different dog. Good lookin' pup there for sure.
Since we all seem to assume you're unable to care for your new boy I'll add the only advice I can. Be consistent and enthusiastically reinforce the behavior you expect. Put the animal in a cage and I'll strongly suggest an bellybutton kicking. Unless of course you're tryin to start a dog zoo.....Nevermind. Even zoos gave up on cages decades ago.
If you can't train the animal, trust him alone with your priceless possessions, or can't handle the associated effluvia of canine cohabitation...just get a freekin' goldfish. As far as that stupidity about how "they like their cage"..who wants to bet I can get any member of this board to "like" being caged with less than 6 months. My rules of course but I guarantee results. There's not a critter alive that would ever choose to be caged. If you have to cage your pet. It's not a pet and you don't deserve their company.
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I used to volunteer at an animal rescue centre in Oxfordshire, England and whilst there took a course in dog training and behaviour
The use of a crate or cage is strongly discouraged when training a family pet , An area of floor or a proper dog bed is better as a properly trained dog needs no physical barriers
Putting a PET DOG in a cage is wrong and produces a subservient rather than a loyal companion (Blue Cross animal rescue Training manual)
Obviously training a show or working dog requires different training methods for the specific needs
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who wants to bet I can get any member of this board to "like" being caged with less than 6 months. My rules of course but I guarantee results. There's not a critter alive that would ever choose to be caged. If you have to cage your pet. It's not a pet and you don't deserve their company.
Anybody who knows anything about training dogs would look at this and laugh uproariously.
This is what happens when generations are raised on Walt Disney, Lion King and anthropomorphism of animals, most of all dogs, to fit our perceptions and needs instead of their own. "Crating" is an integral part of training most of all if the young dog is destructive and is costing you money when left alone. And yes they are very comfortable with it, indeed they do often like to just Lie in their crate.
Two things to remember is the GSD is a working dog and his job is to protect the house and the family. That means he has to be obedience trained and exercised and I dont mean just let out into the back yard but "exercised"! By all means at least join a group that trains and try to find one that does agility and other drills that challenge your dog.
Many GSDs are suspicious of strangers and wont tolerate any stranger coming onto their domain. That doesnt mean they will bite but they sure as hell wont let anyone they dont know in the house or on the property without you there. If they insist on still coming in they may find themselves unable to move cause the dog wont allow them to. GSDs are also very sensitive to sensing "fear" from others. This is a natural instinct found in all dogs so dont just think its them. But "protection type" dogs are more sensitive to it. Theres a reason Police Dept.'s use them. They are extremely intelligent, trainable, protective, and loving family members.
But they are animals, not humans. And they are not little foo-foo dogs, a lot of people are afraid of big dogs most of all GSDs. So they have to be trained and conditioned to follow your commands and acknowledge you as Leader. Problems arise with GSDs when the wrong type of owner buys them. You can treat your Bichon Frise as the child you never had but a GSD is a working animal.
And yes. You should train them to crate.
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You can treat your Bichon Frise as the child you never had but a GSD is a working animal.
This is gonna be the hardest part for me. I'm already having to try not to treat him like a kid, but I know I have to be strict, and my girlfriend is better about it than me. That's where training for US comes in.
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Our Russian neighbors idea of training a watch dog (a doberman) is to let the children kick it repeatedly in the belly to make it hate people. The sad part is that the dog is extremely human friendly and comes to play with us when we pass by. I have a feeling that it would stay with our family if we would let it.
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The one thing to keep in mind about the crate is once the dog runs in there he/she is left alone. It becomes their private refuge. Be it from playing or discipline. Once they run into the crate its over.
This guy speak 3 different languages, voice, whistle, or hand. Or any together. He's still young so he occasionally makes mistakes but since they are animals and not robots they will always make some mistakes. I get two kinda reactions from people, one will admire his level of training. One will act like Im walking a leopard. These kind of fools will stand there lighting him up with their fear and lecture me how I shouldnt own this type of dog. God forbid they just mind their own business and walk on.
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Putting a dog in a crate or a cage is a totally foreign concept to me. I had all kinds of cross breeds growing up (mostly Collie, Shepard and Black Lab mixes) and all my friends had dogs. Of course, most of us lived in the country and dogs roamed free.
When I had my white Shepard I lived with a guy later on that had a Doberman and a Great Dane. Some friends went on vacation and we took care of their Doberman and Shepard along with our own and my roommates Dane had six puppies at the time.
The first time in my life I ran into a dog in a cage was about 12 years ago when I moved back to MN from NY. The neighbors across the street had a minivan with two cages in back and the garage door was always open with the dogs in the cages in the back of the minivan with the tailgate open. I found it incredibly odd and somewhat cruel.
Dogs are very oriented toward pleasing their masters and will do almost anything you train them to do. In this case the neighbors simply trained them to live in cages. Why? They could have been trained to stay in the yard or to sit or lie and stay virtually anywhere. I don't see why training them to stay in a cage is better. Rabbits yes. Cats in transit yes. Dogs at home? No.
On a separate note, when I had my Shepard (remember she was mean) I had her chained to a run in the back yard one day while I was off at work. She could reach the back door of the house easily. When I got home, I don't know how she got there, but an older woman was pinned in the corner of an L in the house near the back door with my Shep hunched, growling and moving back and forth in a quarter circle pattern. The poor lady had been pinned there for two hours.
Another day when we were taking care of our vacationing friend's dogs, I woke up to a deep low bark and my Shepard bolted from my second floor bedroom. As I ran down the stairs throwing on clothes the barking reached a crescendo. As I reached the Kitchen my Shepard along with the visiting Shepard and Doberman were at the top of the stairs leading to the basement (my roommate had left for work taking his Doberman with him as usual) barking like crazy. As I turned the corner the Great Dane was at the bottom of the stairs (we left her in the basement with her puppies) and the gas meter man was halfway between the back door and the basement with his back to the wall and as white as a ghost. We never locked the doors as there was no need to and he'd just walked in. That was the last time.
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"It's obvious you never raised show dogs,they are kept crated as a rule!"
Obvious to whom? Likely not someone who can't comprehend the language (that means it looks like somebody can't read very well)...If one is unaware of how to treat a breed that is as familiar to humanity as canines I'd say one has severely limited observational skills. And if you are having trouble with teething send me a pm. Isolation and confinement are for felons, not a critter that's got a few hundred generations compelling a much different environment.
When somebody can show me an example of self imposed confinement in any natural setting I might reconsider the facts. Until then cage an animal and you're being lazy and selfish. A show dog breeder is likely the last place I'd go for advice on anything save grooming hints. Really no different than trusting the child rearing tips of a pageant mom. Sheps are pretty much drip dry dogs whose typical owner loves the animal much more than the attention owning him provides. Folks (like us) that spent years distilling the breed are to thank for the ease of training you should enjoy. They love structure and predictability. If you can provide that you should have a happy dog. Make it clear what you expect and he'll have a happy you.
I didnt suggest putting the dog in a cage and leaving it there,why have a pet if thats the plan,I agree a goldfish would be a better choice! :rolleyes:
Maybe you and I differ,thats ok,I'm not going to go at length on my experience and I certainly couldnt give you any grooming tips as I raised shorth haired terriers. All my dogs live with us in the house,we've had 4 and even 5 running around at different times and guess what they all had their own cage!
If you can be with the dog 24/7 you may not need to train the dog to use a crate but I wouldnt transport a dog without one.
None of my dogs have ever been confined unless they were unattended and much to my wives dislike several slept with us but they were all trained to be comfortable in a crate.Notice I call it a crate now.... :devil
Serenity said the dog was chewing everything but it's toys,I suggested crate training to help protect both the dog and the household.
You were the one who infact linked it to prisons and zoo's but as someone else said it's a tool just like a leash or a whistle. But thats ok,I can handle it.
Why do I have a funny feeling you would be perfectly ok with keep a dog on a chain in the yard...
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My boss raises show GSDs for the past 20 years, she's never used a crate for discipline purposes. The dogs have their own 15x15 room with beds in all the corners. When they get in trouble or want to get away, they were taught to go to their bed.
There are different ways to train a dog.
(I work at a kennel btw, so I have experience with all sorts of working dogs).
A protection dog, is typically trained in a crate. They learn to be a bit more alert at other people while in that cage, but when they come out, they are taught to be a loving/pleasing dog to their master, but at the same time, be alert.
We kennel a dog here every so often who is a full blood GSD raised/trained in Germany for TWO years. The trainer who works at the kennel for us (Who did NOT train the dog in Germany), said that, that dog is worth about $60,000... HOLY CRAP. :O And I believe it.. We were doing a demo for some other trainers around the city one time.. I put on a redman suit (Bite suit) and ran alll the way to the back of the woods which is just under a mile and a half straight back. Now this is the first time he's been in the back woods at the kennel. There is a horse pasture in the way with a nice split rail fence. I hid behind some bushes and under a tree.. Like a little cave facing away from the dog. From what I was told, he didn't jump over or under the rails, or go around. He went THROUGH the fences in a full out sprint towards the back of the property and sniffed me out Immediately... It was incredible.. He took me to the ground like I was a sock he was tossing around.. Thankfully they were on 4wheelers tracking the dog.. Cuz damn I had bruises on my arms the next day.
Dogs are incredible animals.. Get them trained for something.. Whether it's tracking/search&rescue/personal defense. It'll make a more loyal dog.
Good luck on your little guy and keep us updated!
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Our Russian neighbors idea of training a watch dog (a doberman) is to let the children kick it repeatedly in the belly to make it hate people. The sad part is that the dog is extremely human friendly and comes to play with us when we pass by. I have a feeling that it would stay with our family if we would let it.
this is why I think that most people that consider themselves pet lovers are the worst people that should ever own a pet. actually in my experience most people that call them selves animal lovers are themselves pet's worst enemy.
semp
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IMHO, It's always up to the owner (the pack leader if you want to be a little technical) to teach the dog discipline. Sadly, many pet owners jump into buying a cute little puppy and when the "newness" wears off and they end up with a full grown adult dog, they put it away to be forgotten.
For the few who raise dogs for a living, (confirmation, rally, obedience, field trials, and/or protection) all vary on training techniques. It all depends on the breed. Some breeds can be difficult. I'm not saying untrainable, but some will test you. Sometimes it also depends on the animal itself.
From my own experience. My first Alaskan Malamute had a temperament issue. In the end, it was my fault. I made a crucial mistake at a young age. When he first showed signs of aggression, I failed to act. I did correct him, but not enough. This breed is very stubborn northern breed. I missed the signs. This was my lack of experience and it showed. We did the training (puppy classes, obedience, and search & rescue work). But he had a mean streak.
Now, 20+ years later, my wife and I have five wonderful dogs (2 Havanese and 3 Mals). Well, 4.5 wonderful dogs. My youngest Mal is really testing me lately. I guess what I'm trying to say is that everyone here has posted valid points. What works for them may not work for somebody else. Every dog, every breed is different. Training and experience is always key to raising the perfect animal.
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My three meatballs. Tye, Summer, and River (the problem child).
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Very nice pup there Serenity. I'm extremely jealous, getting a GS or maybe a Belgian Mal has always been near the top of my bucket list, it's just never worked out. Someday I hope. Congrats, best of luck with the training and whatnot.
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Obie, those dogs are gorgeous!
For me, I've never had a puppy, but I've also never been around puppies ever. The puppy phase is cute, but the German Shepherds I know are my family-friends' full grown shepherds who are the most loyal, smart, well behaved dogs. I'm actually looking forward to adulthood more than the puppy stage, and I'm really excited to start training him! And dear god does he need it. 90% of the time, he's great, VERY focused on me, he always looks at me when we walk anywhere, he follows me without having to be called, but for the last two hours he has been on a rampage! I think he got really excited about SOMETHING, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out what. I tried taking him for a walk to get the energy out, but he didn't want to do that. I threw the ball a bunch, but that wasn't helping. I finally decided to try to just ignore him (Something I haven't ever tried before lol) and low and behold, five minutes later he's curled up at my feet (On my rudder pedals, of course, so I can't fly! lol) and being a sweetheart again. I think I've already spoiled him too much, and I need to start paying less attention to him so he doesn't feel like he runs the house.
On the subject of the crate, we got one today. I figure if we want him to feel at home in a crate, we should get one that he will use his whole life, so we got one rated for a dog up to 110lbs (His dad's size). We went with the all metal, and put it in his own part of the house, so he can go there and be away from the activity if he feels like it, and before I could even finish putting it together he ran in there and started playing. I guess he likes it!
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I would like to say many assumptions have been made!
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First I didnt suggest the crate for discipline,it's merely used to keep the dog safe and to be used as a bed! I have always had a "dog" room where my dogs will go to to eat drink or sleep.
As much as some may think it's cruel my dogs think it's cool! they go in the crates on their own and I rarely shut the doors,sure when young I will confine them if unattended but otherwise they are mostly at my side or in my lap if I let them.
While I'll agree a fully trained dog rarely needs to be confined,Serenity's pup is still a baby and as such needs to be protected from it's self.
I'm no longer certified to train dog through the CKC because I allowed it to lapse but I did provide training for puppy groups and new owners for several years. I may not know anything about dogs but I did have a UDX certified English Bullterrier,to my knowledge the only Bully to achieve this in NA.
And guess what? He was crate trained too,infact he could open the door and let himself out if I shut it on him. But then he would go right back in the crate and go to sleep...... Oh so cruel and nasty I didnt deserve him!
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While I'll agree a fully trained dog rarely needs to be confined,Serenity's pup is still a baby and as such needs to be protected from it's self.
That's my intention. My GF usually leaves for work at 1500, and when I class up, I'll be getting home at about 1645, so he would really only be in there for a couple hours at a time, but I would MUCH rather have him caged up for a couple hours but still alive and unharmed when I get home to take him out and run and play!
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That's my intention. My GF usually leaves for work at 1500, and when I class up, I'll be getting home at about 1645, so he would really only be in there for a couple hours at a time, but I would MUCH rather have him caged up for a couple hours but still alive and unharmed when I get home to take him out and run and play!
Good stuff! With a metal crate I usually place a cover over it an old sheet or blanket will do fine. It gives the dog a sense of security and helps stop some distractions.
My old girls,had to put her down a year ago was afraid of thunderstorms so she would seek refuge in her crate. I used a large plastic type so I could cover it completely,as soon as I covered the door she would finally settle down and ride out the storms.
It seems you have learnt your first lesson,ignore bad behavior and praise proper,this is especially true when dealing with a pup! You want your GSD to be confident and disiplined,punishing bad behavior in a pup can do more harm than good. If the pup gets too out of control,a time out in his crate will do wonders..... I should add dont leave to dog in the crate too long as that may be considered "cruel".
Oh and remember until it's about 6 months it's still a baby and wont have total control over bowel and bladder,frequent trips outside after play,eating sleep,etc. as I said before will help but accidents will happen.
If you want a cheap toy for the dog,trust me you can spend a fortune on toys,get a length of natural fiber rope,jute,sisal or cotton and cut it into 2 to 3 ft lengths then try some big knots in it! I like the rubber tires they have for dogs,about the only toy that lasts more than a day with mine!
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If you want a cheap toy for the dog,trust me you can spend a fortune on toys,get a length of natural fiber rope,jute,sisal or cotton and cut it into 2 to 3 ft lengths then try some big knots in it! I like the rubber tires they have for dogs,about the only toy that lasts more than a day with mine!
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It's funny you mention that. He's learned "No" already (Just the word in a stern voice) and so he's stopped chewing furniture, but it means we have to buy him a new toy every day because he DESTROYS them almost instantly. I haven't seen the tires you've mentioned, but the rope is already a mainstay here.
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Kong brand toys are great and long lasting,stay away from nylabones as they can splinter and cause medical emergencies!!!
IIIRC the tires are called "tirebiters" they come in several sizes and usually have a rope attached,my dog removes that in a few seconds but the tires actually last for a long time,same with a kong ball,a must have for dogs with strong jaws.
I get my rope at the surplus store for pennies a foot,a marina may carry what you want also,just make sure you use a natural fiber. Same goes for toys,rubber is ok but stay away from anything plastic,dogs can get small slivers and damage the digestive tract.
Something to consider,will you trim the dogs nails or will you pay for it. If you learn to do it yourself,buy a quality tool.It will last forever and will make the task somewhat easier.Black nails are the hardest to do but not impossible,the sooner you get him acustom to this the better.Trying to trim a 75lb dogs nails when he doesnt want you to can be frustrating in the least. You may even want a groomer to show you how!
Ya they learn quick,GSD being a working dog has a high drive to please it's master,they more you teach it the better the dog will be!
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I'm not even going to try to tell you how to raise your dog, I just offer one bit of advice.
Show the dog as much love as they show you.
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Something to consider,will you trim the dogs nails or will you pay for it. If you learn to do it yourself,buy a quality tool.It will last forever and will make the task somewhat easier.Black nails are the hardest to do but not impossible,the sooner you get him acustom to this the better.Trying to trim a 75lb dogs nails when he doesnt want you to can be frustrating in the least. You may even want a groomer to show you how!
We actually haven't decided that yet. We mess with his paws a lot to get him used to people touching them for grooming, and he doesn't mind at all, but while we were waiting for the vet checkup, we took him to the groomer at Petsmart. While I can certainly dish out $6 for that, they quicked him pretty bad even though we went the grind option instead of the clip, and that REALLY upset me. A minor one is understandable, I know it's tough, but they got him GOOD, so I may not be returning to them for grooming.
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We actually haven't decided that yet. We mess with his paws a lot to get him used to people touching them for grooming, and he doesn't mind at all, but while we were waiting for the vet checkup, we took him to the groomer at Petsmart. While I can certainly dish out $6 for that, they quicked him pretty bad even though we went the grind option instead of the clip, and that REALLY upset me. A minor one is understandable, I know it's tough, but they got him GOOD, so I may not be returning to them for grooming.
You can get a clotting stick,they sell them at drugstores for shaving! They are a small white pencil with antiseptic and a clotting agent! If you do the nails yourself be sure to get one. If you cut the quick real bad you may need to cauterize it,but thats only in a real severe case I use a soldering iron for that!!!
Really it's best to learn to do it yourself,and do it often so you only need to take a little off,as I said black nails are the hardest but it you look at the underside of the nail you can see the quick. I use a small mill file to clean up the edges after I clip the nail.
When I was actively showing dogs they got alot of attention to their feet and nails,was about all the grooming I needed besides a good bath!
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"Anybody who knows anything about training dogs would look at this and laugh uproariously."
Maybe you should look one up and ask before making such stupid assumptions.
Notice that typically the only people who cage their dogs are those who exploit the animals and can't be bothered to live with them. Canines are not bred to be confined and as mentioned before (should be common knowledge with all the "experts" regurgitating erroneous data) will kill themselves in an effort to please us. Asking their opinion is of no merit.
A cage is a tool for keeping the dog safe when traveling or in the company of other strange animals. If so, acclimate the animal as you would for any uncommon practice and leave it at that. If he needs to be kept safe in your home....right, no business owning a pet. If you use your dog as a trophy, hide behind him from bad guys or otherwise exploit the breed unnaturally for your own gain you shouldn't be allowed to have them around. Dogs that are purpose bred for traditional jobs never benefit from being caged save the odd safety issue Even dogs used for security are usually allowed room to walk around if circumstance prevents commingling.
We've gotten too used to rationalizing our own convenience. You know better than us your motivations and needs. Go ahead, cage that puppy just because it makes your life easier. Won't make you the biggest loser on the planet. Just another lazy lemming. And if you have any questions find a vet you can trust.
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If PETA wants to invade these boards they better be ready for a whoopin'.
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We actually haven't decided that yet. We mess with his paws a lot to get him used to people touching them for grooming, and he doesn't mind at all, but while we were waiting for the vet checkup, we took him to the groomer at Petsmart. While I can certainly dish out $6 for that, they quicked him pretty bad even though we went the grind option instead of the clip, and that REALLY upset me. A minor one is understandable, I know it's tough, but they got him GOOD, so I may not be returning to them for grooming.
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A vet once told me " the nails should "just clear the floor". been heeding that advice for many years....
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"Anybody who knows anything about training dogs would look at this and laugh uproariously."
Maybe you should look one up and ask before making such stupid assumptions.
Notice that typically the only people who cage their dogs are those who exploit the animals and can't be bothered to live with them. Canines are not bred to be confined and as mentioned before (should be common knowledge with all the "experts" regurgitating erroneous data) will kill themselves in an effort to please us. Asking their opinion is of no merit.
A cage is a tool for keeping the dog safe when traveling or in the company of other strange animals. If so, acclimate the animal as you would for any uncommon practice and leave it at that. If he needs to be kept safe in your home....right, no business owning a pet. If you use your dog as a trophy, hide behind him from bad guys or otherwise exploit the breed unnaturally for your own gain you shouldn't be allowed to have them around. Dogs that are purpose bred for traditional jobs never benefit from being caged save the odd safety issue Even dogs used for security are usually allowed room to walk around if circumstance prevents commingling.
We've gotten too used to rationalizing our own convenience. You know better than us your motivations and needs. Go ahead, cage that puppy just because it makes your life easier. Won't make you the biggest loser on the planet. Just another lazy lemming. And if you have any questions find a vet you can trust.
Opinions are like armpits...sometimes they stink...several "erroneous" statements above. :old:
dentin has left the building.. :bolt:
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Opinions are like armpits...sometimes they stink...several "erroneous" statements above. :old:
dentin has left the building.. :bolt:
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Heya Dent! How are those furballs of yours doing? And you need to resub and come say hello!
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I'm a member of PETA :rock "People Eating Tasty Animals" :D
Of course I don't eat dogs they help me hunt the eating ones. :devil
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Opinions are like armpits...sometimes they stink...several "erroneous" statements above. :old:
dentin has left the building.. :bolt:
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Heya Dent! How are those furballs of yours doing? And you need to resub and come say hello!
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Hiya Morf...might resub as soon as I see the next "update". The "furballs are doing great. Hope all is well with ya.
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Wow, I guess my family has been doing it wrong for generations. Like Morph said, I wonder why dog chooses on his own free will to go in his crate (cage) sometimes :headscratch:
Very puzzling; I wonder if he just might feel safe there. Lmao.
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OP: the biggest concern my family has always had with a pup is parvo virus. I know you will want to show your pup off to everyone, but I'd not take him to the dog park or let him walk around anywhere an un-vaccinated dog might have been. Parvo is very resilient and can remain mechanized "living" for well over a year if undisturbed and away from direct UV light. Mortality rate is incredibly high & treatment is very expensive for parvo.
You get the first parvo/combo vaccine after 8 weeks, but there are boosters and your puppy will not be fully (safely) immune until the last puppy booster.
You can also bring parvo into your house by way of your shoes and other un-vaccinated dogs. Be proactive and water/bleach 30:1 around areas you suspect.
Great looking dog there, have fun, take lots of pics; they grow so fast.
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Wow, I guess my family has been doing it wrong for generations. Like Morph said, I wonder why dog chooses on his own free will to go in his crate (cage) sometimes :headscratch:
Very puzzling; I wonder if he just might feel safe there. Lmao.
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OP: the biggest concern my family has always had with a pup is parvo virus. I know you will want to show your pup off to everyone, but I'd not take him to the dog park or let him walk around anywhere an un-vaccinated dog might have been. Parvo is very resilient and can remain mechanized "living" for well over a year if undisturbed and away from direct UV light. Mortality rate is incredibly high & treatment is very expensive for parvo.
You get the first parvo/combo vaccine after 8 weeks, but there are boosters and your puppy will not be fully (safely) immune until the last puppy booster.
You can also bring parvo into your house by way of your shoes and other un-vaccinated dogs. Be proactive and water/bleach 30:1 around areas you suspect.
Great looking dog there, have fun, take lots of pics; they grow so fast.
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Thanks for the heads up! We're always looking for ways to keep him safe. I believe he's had 3 Parvo boosters so far, with another checkup scheduled for the 26th, so I'll check up and see how we're doing there.
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"I wonder why dog chooses on his own free will to go in his crate"
I guarantee there has never in the history of canine husbandry a dog that has EVER entered a cage under his own free will. And i challenge you to cite one legitimate example.
But thanks for illuminating just how clueless most owners are.
Third time. He'll do just about whatever he thinks you want him to do. In his DNA. You're supposed to be smarter than the dog. But then you're supposed to be smart enough to distinguish training for nature. Same problem we have with the Pit owners these days. More money than sense and no experience to weigh stupid advice against.
You're right about Parvo though. Never really liked dog parks. I won't even let our garbage man pet mine.
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"I wonder why dog chooses on his own free will to go in his crate"
I guarantee there has never in the history of canine husbandry a dog that has EVER entered a cage under his own free will. And i challenge you to cite one legitimate example.
But thanks for illuminating just how clueless most owners are.
Third time. He'll do just about whatever he thinks you want him to do. In his DNA. You're supposed to be smarter than the dog. But then you're supposed to be smart enough to distinguish training for nature. Same problem we have with the Pit owners these days. More money than sense and no experience to weigh stupid advice against.
You're right about Parvo though. Never really liked dog parks. I won't even let our garbage man pet mine.
That's not how it works, you don't get to make a statement, call someone names and then "challenge" them to disprove you.
That is a tactic however to undermine an ability for others to see an opposing view to yours and to fluff your feathers.
You are an odd one. Furthermore you are far from the norm and in the extreme when it comes to views on dog training and companionship.
You know zero about my dogs, other than they have a crate and use it; yet you make blanket statements. Clueless, yep...three fingers pointing back at you when you point one at someone.
Maybe go back to your PETA boards?
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"I wonder why dog chooses on his own free will to go in his crate"
I guarantee there has never in the history of canine husbandry a dog that has EVER entered a cage under his own free will. And i challenge you to cite one legitimate example.
But thanks for illuminating just how clueless most owners are.
Hey slick, perhaps you need to do some research on "K9 denning instinct "
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Hey slick, perhaps you need to do some research on "K9 denning instinct "
Keep in mind who your talking to.
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Hey slick, perhaps you need to do some research on "K9 denning instinct "
No kidding.
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Thanks for the heads up! We're always looking for ways to keep him safe. I believe he's had 3 Parvo boosters so far, with another checkup scheduled for the 26th, so I'll check up and see how we're doing there.
One thing I never advise on is shots,the Vet should know what is required and any extra protection that may be necessary in the area you live.
I had a young pup contact parvo,in those days the used a horse serum,I was lucky my dog survived! My Vet asked if they could sample some blood to send off the an University that has a animal husbandry campus,they took the blood of 3 surviving pups and developed the vaccine that is used today!
Only your vet can give you the proper advice on which shots are appropriate in your area!
K9 denning instinct....... good one,even my wife got a chuckle out of that!
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Keep in mind who your talking to.
:rofl your funny!! FYI, Doesn't matter "who", my response (demeanor ) is directed to, it's always the same. :neener: Over 35 yrs experience w/K9's dictated a response to fact-less info.
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One thing I never advise on is shots,the Vet should know what is required and any extra protection that may be necessary in the area you live.
I had a young pup contact parvo,in those days the used a horse serum,I was lucky my dog survived! My Vet asked if they could sample some blood to send off the an University that has a animal husbandry campus,they took the blood of 3 surviving pups and developed the vaccine that is used today!
Only your vet can give you the proper advice on which shots are appropriate in your area!
K9 denning instinct....... good one,even my wife got a chuckle out of that!
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Wow that's pretty cool Morf; I'm sure you lost some of that litter but it was certainly not in vain.
I agree with you about the Veterinarian consulting on all the shots; I just meant to inform if he was unaware how serious parvo is. Many first time owners have lost their pups unfortunately to it.
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Wow that's pretty cool Morf; I'm sure you lost some of that litter but it was certainly not in vain.
I agree with you about the Veterinarian consulting on all the shots; I just meant to inform if he was unaware how serious parvo is. Many first time owners have lost their pups unfortunately to it.
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I had a single pup at the time so it didnt affect a litter of mine! There were 2 dog locally and another from where I have no idea but my Vet said they were a border collie and shepard,I had a bullterrier,she went into the Vets at 30 lbs and came home 10 days later at 20lbs.
Parvo is nasty,it ulcerates the intestinal tract from one end to the other and the dog can absorb it's food. IV feeding was what kept my dog alive,that and she was a bully that wouldnt quit!
Several years after that they revised the parvo vaccine again,sometime in the 90's but the first "K9" vaccine came from those 3 survivors!
Luckly in my area it's not a prominent as it was in the 80's and 90's but I would still suggest every owner have their dog protected from it. A 10 day stay at the Vet's isnt exactly cheap!
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PS: My dog Terra is watching me type this laying in her crate!
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PS: My dog Terra is watching me type this laying in her crate!
Kaiser is, as always, sleeping on my rudder pedals as I read this. He hasn't let me play since we brought him home!