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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on January 24, 2015, 06:57:16 PM
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For you Nef. PM. Not sure how often you visit here?
Thanks man!
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Thanks Nef! You ROCK dude!
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No problem! Enjoy! and Pics when you get her out on the range!
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I prefer the SKS to any other.
ammo is cheaper and it don't have any of the 'features'
of an AW.
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If you're into 7.62 x 39, check out the Czech vz 58 / vz 2008.
You can get them for around $400 now. The para version with the folding metal stock is actually comfortable.
They are in many ways better than the AK; all milled, 1 lb. lighter, smaller, bolt holds open, inexpensive parts.
Sorry, off topic
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You have peaked my interest! Dammit...now I'm back to browsing various arms list sites!!
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You have peaked my interest! Dammit...now I'm back to browsing various arms list sites!!
Ha! the commie dark side has you in its clutches!
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I know, Now I want an SKS!
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I have an original 1956 Chinese SKS. Very fun to shoot.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x311/archywood/sks_zpst6pntssi.jpg)
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I have an original 1956 Chinese SKS. Very fun to shoot.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x311/archywood/sks_zpst6pntssi.jpg)
She would have a lot to say if she could only tell us. Nice rifle.
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Since we're on the subject, here is my latest purchase. I was going to sell it for a friend who moved to Oz (along with several other pieces) but after researching, buying a book, etc I've fallen in love with it.
It has the Buffington sights, 1883 cartouches. Clean bore with excellent rifling. His father took very good care of it after shooting it.
Came with about 200 rounds of ammo and vintage copper-jacketed ammo.
All for $600.00.
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-cFGbpkD/0/O/i-cFGbpkD.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-V5QX4n7/0/O/i-V5QX4n7.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-KZPHq8P/0/X2/i-KZPHq8P-X2.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-BS77gR9/0/X2/i-BS77gR9-X2.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-gdGc8w4/0/X2/i-gdGc8w4-X2.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-82cD4Fn/0/X2/i-82cD4Fn-X2.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-hRzzWSg/0/X3/i-hRzzWSg-X3.jpg)
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(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-ThHFHfF/0/O/i-ThHFHfF.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-dHGbzQd/0/O/i-dHGbzQd.jpg)
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(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-zSkztzc/0/O/i-zSkztzc.jpg)
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I am debating whether or not to buy his Remington Rolling Block 7mm Mauser (made in 1901) I am on commission to sell it but it's a little more money than I planned on spending.
http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/Remington-Rolling-Block-No-5/n-dpjB2/i-wbnpGsB
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That trap door is a beauty! Looks some parts are case hardened.
Have you fired it? If not, I'd test it from a stand first, even after a gunsmith inspection.
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That trap door is a beauty! Looks some parts are case hardened.
Have you fired it? If not, I'd test it from a stand first, even after a gunsmith inspection.
It's not a parts gun. All numbers match. :)
It's already passed a gunsmith inspection. Plan on firing it down range at waist level "breech away" for first shot and then check for fouling every other bullet. :rock
Video to follow next month.
Course, I'm not shooting any of the old ammo...I can sell it and pay for the rifle alone! ;)
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What does .45-70 recoil feel like, 12 gauge? I've never fired that round.
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consider that the average chamber pressure of a 12G is 11000lbs, and the 4570 is 30000.
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What does .45-70 recoil feel like, 12 gauge? I've never fired that round.
Recoil is often attributed to the round when reality is its more often caused by the rifle. Ive had 3006's that were much harder to shoot then my 375 HH. Stock design, barrel length, weight of the rifle, muzzle flash, that way it "fits" the shooter. This is what matters more then actual rounds being shot. I always found the 45/70 a sweetie to shoot. Even in a lever gun its no big deal, yet Im experienced with rifles and recoil doesnt have much effect on me. I find the Weatherbys more of a pain off the bench then even a .458 Win as long as the Win is in a solid platform like a Model-70.
Kids can shoot that 45/70. It must weigh in the area of 10+ pounds and the 45/70 will be a sweetie to shoot out of it. Lovely piece. Congrats.
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Thanks Rich! Can't wait to take this one out to the range.
I've bought 2 books on the .45-70 now. When I retire in 5 years, I'll probably start diving into reloading when I have the time. :)
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consider that the average chamber pressure of a 12G is 11000lbs, and the 4570 is 30000.
Chamber pressure is not a good indicator of recoil impulse. It is the weight of the projectile combined with the velocity imparted to it. The 22-250 has some serious chamber pressure but the recoil from launcing the 55 gr slug is pretty minimal even at maximum velocity. It compares very poorly to to the recoil of a 45-70 using black powder and a 325 gr lead slug.
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Chamber pressure is not a good indicator of recoil impulse. It is the weight of the projectile combined with the velocity imparted to it. The 22-250 has some serious chamber pressure but the recoil from launching the 55 gr slug is pretty minimal even at maximum velocity. It compares very poorly to to the recoil of a 45-70 using black powder and a 325 gr lead slug.
but you are comparing a 55g bullet and a 300g bullet.
I'm comparing a 400g slug (or shot load) with a 400g bullet.
now shot shells are cylindrical as are 4570 444 or even 600 nitros, not so with a 22 250, which is I believe
a 3006 cartridge necked down to 22. so of course in the 22 250 you would have hi chamber pressures because
of so much gas exiting out the .22 size hole.
not so with my example.
the shot load, say for sporting clays, was not designed to reach more than 100m, so its powder charge reflects that.
the 45 70 on the other hand was designed as a mil cartridge and is supposed to get out to ~1000m. therefore the
powder charge of the 45 70 must be able to send that 400g slug that far and so therefore is much greater than that
of the shotgun and recoil would be greater.
but everything is power to weight, the heavier the gun the less 'felt' recoil.
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Wow! I'm hooked on the Springfield .45-70. My 16 year old son and I went and shot 20 rounds through her today. Awesome rifle! Shooting a bit low with the 1903 Springfield sites at 75 yards but nothing I can't adjust to. Next time out we plan do do 100 yards. Here is a video of Reilly shooting it today. His 2nd shot he damn near hit a bullseye! :)
https://vimeo.com/119022508
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Nice. I was thinking about getting one of those.
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Thanks for posting the vid!
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You're going to hate me Nef. :lol
I'm home sick today so I did a quick swap out. :)
I'll put it back to stock after this week-end when I take the kiddo out to shoot a few rounds in it.
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-LbdWWhJ/0/O/i-LbdWWhJ.jpg)
(http://sportsdad60.smugmug.com/photos/i-8Tbj46c/0/O/i-8Tbj46c.jpg)
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There is one instance I would allow the black folder on any of my SKS... And that is on my SKS-S "Paratrooper".
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/ralphmunnich/l1_rifles_sks_paratrooper_with_folding_stock_50442.jpg) (http://s205.photobucket.com/user/ralphmunnich/media/l1_rifles_sks_paratrooper_with_folding_stock_50442.jpg.html)
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How'd you get the bolt to stay back like that with the aftermarket mags? :huh Does the bolt stay back when the mags are empty? I know they don't when they're full.
The paratrooper definitely looks sexier with the short barrel!
What's the hidden compartment in the bottom of the pistol grip for?
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How'd you get the bolt to stay back like that with the aftermarket mags? :huh Does the bolt stay back when the mags are empty? I know they don't when they're full.
The paratrooper definitely looks sexier with the short barrel!
What's the hidden compartment in the bottom of the pistol grip for?
Not my gun, but it is most likely empty, although you can engage the bho with ammo loaded by simply engaging it with your finger. It should hold until you pull the carrier back a little bit.
The secret compartment is for your survival matches, compass and fishing line and hook lol ;)
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Not my gun, but it is most likely empty, although you can engage the bho with ammo loaded by simply engaging it with your finger. It should hold until you pull the carrier back a little bit.
The secret compartment is for your survival matches, compass and fishing line and hook lol ;)
Roger that.
LOL on compartment.
I was thinking "I can put 6 extra cartridges in there!" :D
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One of the "Holy Grail" SKS rifles up for auction.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=467571102
North Korean SKS. Probably less than 20 in the US. Last I read, less than a dozen confirmed in US.
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wow.
is that considered a deal is it True Market Value?
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wow.
is that considered a deal is it True Market Value?
I'm sure it's not a "deal" but if you wanted one for your collection bad enough then this is what you might expect to pay.
I believe this seller is Martin08 from survivors sks forum. Dude probably has over 100 sks rifles. Last i read he was into mosins now. I think this NK rifle has been around the sks community.
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I just got a svt 40 for 850, might look into a sks in the near future, already have the sniper mosin nagant.
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wow looking at those sks pics....makes me miss mine....
had a beautiful Chinese one long ago...perfect condition...fired it quite a lot....only time it jammed is when using the cheap Czechoslovakian ammo...
had that along with 2 Mac90's both had a 75 rd drum and 4 30 rd mags......
plus a 12g pistol on pistol pump...extended tube with heat shield..... :O
3in rottwhile(sp?) rounds :t
damn those were some fun days...
ya I am a sword guy...but what real man doesn't like blasting through about 1000 rds in an afternoon..... :rock
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wow looking at those sks pics....makes me miss mine....
had a beautiful Chinese one long ago...perfect condition...fired it quite a lot....only time it jammed is when using the cheap Czechoslovakian ammo...
had that along with 2 Mac90's both had a 75 rd drum and 4 30 rd mags......
plus a 12g pistol on pistol pump...extended tube with heat shield..... :O
3in rottwhile(sp?) rounds :t
damn those were some fun days...
ya I am a sword guy...but what real man doesn't like blasting through about 1000 rds in an afternoon..... :rock
I have an 1845 French Military Sword for sale for $175. PM me for details. I'll even throw in a white flag. :) Serious on the sword, not on the white flag.
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I have an 1845 French Military Sword for sale for $175. PM me for details. I'll even throw in a white flag. :) Serious on the sword, not on the white flag.
oh man, would love to get my hands on that...damn good price too....but way to many kids to spend what little money there is for toys....wife cant stand me as it is...she would probably use it on me in my sleep... :uhoh
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I just got a svt 40 for 850, might look into a sks in the near future, already have the sniper mosin nagant.
SVT!!! still swear the Simonov copied that for the SKS
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oh man, would love to get my hands on that...damn good price too....but way to many kids to spend what little money there is for toys....wife cant stand me as it is...she would probably use it on me in my sleep... :uhoh
It is a "Manuf re Klingenthal Coulaux & Cie"
No scabbard.
Manufre de Klingenthal Coulaux & Cie markings indicated the disastrous Franco-Prussian war of 1870. The French moved the government manufacturing of swords to Châtellerault.
On September 1870, Klingenthal was captured by the Germans. Alsace remained a German territory until 1918. The company produced some bayonets for the German Empire (bearing the mark C ) but was never able to challenge the manufacturers of Solingen (Germany). The making of tools and the few orders for blades for private swordmakers were not sufficient to stop the decline of the Manufacture de Klingenthal.
In 1815, six hundred workers were making swords in Klingenthal, in 1910 they were one hundred. In 1955 only fifteen men were employed in the tool manufacturing company of Klingenthal, which closed its doors permanently in 1962.
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It is a "Manuf re Klingenthal Coulaux & Cie"
No scabbard.
Manufre de Klingenthal Coulaux & Cie markings indicated the disastrous Franco-Prussian war of 1870. The French moved the government manufacturing of swords to Châtellerault.
On September 1870, Klingenthal was captured by the Germans. Alsace remained a German territory until 1918. The company produced some bayonets for the German Empire (bearing the mark C ) but was never able to challenge the manufacturers of Solingen (Germany). The making of tools and the few orders for blades for private swordmakers were not sufficient to stop the decline of the Manufacture de Klingenthal.
In 1815, six hundred workers were making swords in Klingenthal, in 1910 they were one hundred. In 1955 only fifteen men were employed in the tool manufacturing company of Klingenthal, which closed its doors permanently in 1962.
I would not sell that if I were you...take it from one who has sold way to many things off.....that is a keeper...greatly appreciate the offer :salute
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SVT!!! still swear the Simonov copied that for the SKS
You'd be right, and the PTRD-1 Anti-tank rifle.
They PTRD and the SVT and the SKS all use the tilting bolt system. Simonov designed the SKS to be an smaller SVT after the Soviets and most other countries realized that most fighting in the second world war was done under a range of 300 meters, and house to house, hand to hand.
Kalashnikov took the system a step further with the rotating bolt design and the AK47 won the day over the SKS.
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I would not sell that if I were you...take it from one who has sold way to many things off.....that is a keeper...greatly appreciate the offer :salute
It's not mine. I'm commissioned by a US lifelong friend that moved to Oz and couldn't take his firearms and sword collection with him.
Recently sold one of his Civil War Shannon, Miller and Crane swords.
This is the last one left.
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It's not mine. I'm commissioned by a US lifelong friend that moved to Oz and couldn't take his firearms and sword collection with him.
Recently sold one of his Civil War Shannon, Miller and Crane swords.
This is the last one left.
ahhh
well I still appreciate the offer :salute