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Title: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: oboe on February 04, 2015, 05:35:38 PM
Wondering about that Saitek yoke - would be great for bombers, and the P-38.   In the market for new flight gear, just wondering what your experiences are.

Also, is it true CH sticks have practically no re-centering springs?

Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: FLS on February 04, 2015, 06:27:50 PM
CH sticks are relatively light and use light springs but I never heard of centering problems that weren't loose centers from wear or spiking.

I haven't played AH with a yoke but I've tried them. IIRC the pitch axis won't move as quickly as a stick but it may still be quick enough.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: SilverZ06 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
Ha! I was literally thinking about that yoke with the 38 just yesterday. I have a CH Fighter stick and it does have a centering spring. I've never have any issues with it not centering when I release the pressure. I'm also curious if anyone actually uses that yoke in game. I think it would be kind of fun!
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: 633DH98 on February 04, 2015, 10:37:47 PM
You might want to search about built in hardware null-zone complaints for Saitek Yokes before purchasing one.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: 100Coogn on February 04, 2015, 10:38:44 PM
Thanks to gpwurzel for his generosity , I have a CH 568 Combatstick that I use.  It centers itself quite nicely.
It's a pretty solid stick.

Coogan  :joystick:
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: Drano on February 05, 2015, 07:36:09 AM
The CH sticks have two springs actually, one for each axis. They aren't very strong but they will center the stick. I'm sure you could probably find some springs that might fit and would be a bit stronger if you dug around for them. Problem is the tabs the springs attach to inside are only plastic so with a spring that's too strong you might run the risk of snapping them and then you'd be SOL.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: oboe on February 05, 2015, 07:48:04 AM
<S> gpwurzel!   That's a stand-up thing to do.

Saitek seems to be the only game in town with regard to pedals, but I'm wondering if I got the yoke + throttle quadrant, would I be able to purchase a standalone stick and use it with the throttle quadrant as my throttle if I tired of the yoke or wanted a stick in addition?

 That throttle quadrant looks a bit more WWII era than the throttles that come with HOTAS kits like the Warthog, X-52 and X-55.

Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: SilverZ06 on February 05, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
<S> gpwurzel!   That's a stand-up thing to do.

Saitek seems to be the only game in town with regard to pedals, but I'm wondering if I got the yoke + throttle quadrant, would I be able to purchase a standalone stick and use it with the throttle quadrant as my throttle if I tired of the yoke or wanted a stick in addition?

 That throttle quadrant looks a bit more WWII era than the throttles that come with HOTAS kits like the Warthog, X-52 and X-55.



Yes! I use a ch fighter stick with 2 saitek throttle quadrants
(http://www.flightsimulation.co.za/PZ45_Saitek_Pro_Flight_Throttle_Quadrant.jpg)
 and saitek pedals.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: FLS on February 05, 2015, 09:09:29 AM
<S> gpwurzel!   That's a stand-up thing to do.

Saitek seems to be the only game in town with regard to pedals, but I'm wondering if I got the yoke + throttle quadrant, would I be able to purchase a standalone stick and use it with the throttle quadrant as my throttle if I tired of the yoke or wanted a stick in addition?

 That throttle quadrant looks a bit more WWII era than the throttles that come with HOTAS kits like the Warthog, X-52 and X-55.



You can use any combination of controllers in AH. Currently I'm using a customized Cougar, Warthog throttle, Saitek rudder pedals and Saitek throttle quadrant for trim.

Saitek pots tend to spike. I can see it in setup but I don't notice it in use.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: zack1234 on February 06, 2015, 02:04:09 AM
As per pic above CH kit looks like a pair of nuns knicker dull :old:

They are easy to fix though if they rarely go wrong
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: guncrasher on February 06, 2015, 03:49:23 AM
ok here's a yoke,

girls with big boobs work at Hooters,

where do works with one leg work?






IHOP



but should you tip them?


semp
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: oboe on February 08, 2015, 08:25:58 AM
oooh tough crowd, GC!

  :lol
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: Hap on February 08, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
I flew with a CH Yoke for a year or so.  It was nifty and at times I disliked it.  Adds a nice touch with buffs and the like.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: pembquist on February 09, 2015, 12:24:04 PM
I have a ch yoke i used with On Top, a instrument sim and the problem I had with it was that it didnt center very well in pitch which made the simulating vague, in AH that might not be  such a big deal as long as it didn't kick out the autopilot.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 09, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
The CH sticks have two springs actually, one for each axis. They aren't very strong but they will center the stick. I'm sure you could probably find some springs that might fit and would be a bit stronger if you dug around for them. Problem is the tabs the springs attach to inside are only plastic so with a spring that's too strong you might run the risk of snapping them and then you'd be SOL.

You can use two rubber bands to stiffen up the CH stick.
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: NikonGuy on February 12, 2015, 07:32:27 AM
I used to use the Saitek Yoke .. I got rid of it pretty quickly.  Was nifty for about two days until the novelty wore off, I like the throttle quadrant though :)

Best stick I have ever used is the Warthog .. period, but mines modified :P

<S>
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: Mister Fork on February 12, 2015, 01:01:32 PM
I flew with the CH Yoke numerous times - mostly for MS Flight Sim and in Aces High when buff driving.  I found joystick more practical for the P-38 however - as the sensitivity and quicker response preferred for dogfighting... but the CH yoke did ok for the 38 and Mossie. They're still bigger planes than a simple P-51 or Spitfire.

Meaning - you may find it good for realism, but sucking for fast response and preciseness...especially for accurate gunfire solutions
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: oboe on February 12, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
I flew with the CH Yoke numerous times - mostly for MS Flight Sim and in Aces High when buff driving.  I found joystick more practical for the P-38 however - as the sensitivity and quicker response preferred for dogfighting... but the CH yoke did ok for the 38 and Mossie. They're still bigger planes than a simple P-51 or Spitfire.

Meaning - you may find it good for realism, but sucking for fast response and preciseness...especially for accurate gunfire solutions

You're not the first to comment on the slower response.   All things being equal, I'd like to fly with more realistic gear, but not at the expense of gunfire solutions.   I think I'll learn from you guys' experience and stick with a traditional stick...
Title: Re: Anybody here fly with a yoke?
Post by: NikonGuy on February 12, 2015, 07:38:23 PM
Yes I found the Saitek yoke and pedals slow in response also .. another reason I gave it the boot.