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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mikev on February 10, 2015, 02:20:20 AM
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lots of complaints on 200 about pilots flying into hoards then complaining about the odds after they get shot down. I just have to say that if you do this its your own fault. their are only a few pilots i know that can even manage to even the odds and even they get shot down.
if you fly into a out numbered situation , whats everybody suppose to do let you shot us down 1 by 1? thats crazy. if i see 1 of my team pilot in trouble i will come to their aid and i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it .
choose your fights wisely , find a better strategy , but if you fly into an outnumbered situation your the blame for what happens nobody else.
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True that
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lots of complaints on 200 about pilots flying into hoards then complaining about the odds after they get shot down. I just have to say that if you do this its your own fault. their are only a few pilots i know that can even manage to even the odds and even they get shot down.
if you fly into a out numbered situation , whats everybody suppose to do let you shot us down 1 by 1? thats crazy. if i see 1 of my team pilot in trouble i will come to their aid and i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it .
choose your fights wisely , find a better strategy , but if you fly into an outnumbered situation your the blame for what happens nobody else.
So what is your alternative then? Fly away and let the horde rape the field unopposed? Is that what you or they consider as fun? I doubt it. If it was you could just stay offline and capture the whole map all by yourself with nobody to bother you.
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So what is your alternative then? Fly away and let the horde rape the field unopposed? Is that what you or they consider as fun? I doubt it. If it was you could just stay offline and capture the whole map all by yourself with nobody to bother you.
i think your missing the point MrRipley the point is there is way to many arguments going on ch 200. we dont need the trash talk do we? angry players just creates animosity which we all do not need. people forget this is just a game. I have been vulched 1000000 times ,sure its frustrating. but the name calling and trash talk hurts this game. point being if you fly into a hoard its YOUR choice dont scream at the other guys to vent your frustration.
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i think your missing the point MrRipley the point is there is way to many arguments going on ch 200. we dont need the trash talk do we? angry players just creates animosity which we all do not need. people forget this is just a game. I have been vulched 1000000 times ,sure its frustrating. but the name calling and trash talk hurts this game. point being if you fly into a hoard its YOUR choice dont scream at the other guys to vent your frustration.
Too late. It's already been done.
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^^^^^ :rofl
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normally the horde complains via PM just because I elect to fly a perked plane into them. :uhoh
It's not fair!
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And THAT is why I take something I feel that I can survive fighting the whole horde while being able to cut their numbers at the same time if I see one coming :)
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normally the horde complains via PM just because I elect to fly a perked plane into them. :uhoh
It's not fair!
:rofl :aok
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hordes are nummy.... :D
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There's a percentage of folks who play because of the 200 purse fights and a percentage that play in spite of the 200 purse fights. As long as they are all upping pixel planes and trying to shoot at me while I try and shoot them, the other stuff isn't important.
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The Rooks got man when I called the entire country out for not fighting on the rook front at all...they sent the horde.
Finally, the horde has come back!!! To the night front!!!
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The good thing about 200 is that you can always detune it if it gets on your nerves.
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True that
Heard the best vox compliment on your return, "Oh crap! It's Ink in the Ki" :salute
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The good thing about 200 is that you can always detune it if it gets on your nerves.
naw its easier to use the squelch . then i can still give compliments to the more civilized pilots for a good shot or fight
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I LOVE the hordes! Watching 8 of them overshoot at once, 5 more auger in, and 10 running away in terror. I love you hordes! Please don't leave me. :devil
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Agree that I love to find any kind of action, besides noe lancasters running away from downed HQ <<<< has ruined much of what folks pay to play for (whine recorded o-kay).
Mikev,
I also try and avoid Head Ons especially when there are overwhelming numbers in our favor (disagree.... kill at all costs).
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Fighting outnumbered is so damn fun, especially in my K4, but I die so much in those situations, hence that thread I have up there in the H & S forums.
262's are probably the most fun to fight a horde with.
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i upped a 262 for shyts n grinns the other night and got whoooooped :lol was fun trying tho hahaha
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Caldera - awesome.
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Was ganged several times last night. My fault I had the opportunity to run but didn't. Managed to even get a couple of kills. What makes me smile is I ho'd a 110 and won, sort of. He died first. LOL
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The most effective way to fight the horde is top down with a fast cannon bird. :rolleyes:
The most fun way is from the bottom up in something maneuverable. :rock
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if you fly into a out numbered situation , whats everybody suppose to do let you shot us down 1 by 1? thats crazy. if i see 1 of my team pilot in trouble i will come to their aid and i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it .
choose your fights wisely , find a better strategy , but if you fly into an outnumbered situation your the blame for what happens nobody else.
The other day I shot some guy down that piped up on channel 200, "WTG 3 of you" afterwards. I found his comment funny because the Bishop player in his Bf 109K-4 was initially in a co-alt 1v1 fight with another Knight but dove to try and pick a lower con (me) after he blew his merge and lost the advantage.. He was only "ganged" because he made the stupid tactical decision to dive into a situation that would result in his being ganged, when he could have stayed at his altitude for a 1v1 fight.
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The other day I shot some guy down that piped up on channel 200, "WTG 3 of you" afterwards. I found his comment funny because the Bishop player in his Bf 109K-4 was initially in a co-alt 1v1 fight with another Knight but dove to try and pick a lower con (me) after he blew his merge and lost the advantage.. He was only "ganged" because he made the stupid tactical decision to dive into a situation that would result in his being ganged, when he could have stayed at his altitude for a 1v1 fight.
LOL have seen that happen more than once. A lot of guys seem to think they're Chuck Norris and should be engaged in single, low altitude combat one at a time by the entire red horde. Anything else is cheap.
Wiley.
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i upped a 262 for shyts n grinns the other night and got whoooooped :lol was fun trying tho hahaha
Only 1? PFFF! Lightweight!
I crashed 5 262s consecutively the other night fighting the rook horde (did manage to bring down one of their 262s though :D). Only one person was credited with a kill (they didn't actually shoot me down). They shot me up, and I later lost a wing in a HO with a jug... crashed the jet while trying to land and a kill was awarded.
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You are all so lucky, you have no idea how lucky you are. I hear EVERYONE complaining about being ganged and horded to death, but whenever I find one of these hordes they don't fight me to the death, they all run away. :(
You should all be counting yourselves super lucky to find hordes that are willing to fight you.
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Only 1? PFFF! Lightweight!
I crashed 5 262s consecutively the other night fighting the rook horde (did manage to bring down one of their 262s though :D). Only one person was credited with a kill (they didn't actually shoot me down). They shot me up, and I later lost a wing in a HO with a jug... crashed the jet while trying to land and a kill was awarded.
Sorry you got this 100% WRONG..........rook never ever horde! :rofl
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I enjoy upping to fight hordes. It is great fun to see how many I can take with me. Some seem to be quite shocked to find you get just as many kills when you are shot down with them as when you land them.
The best part though is nearly all hordes have the same thing in common-they will abandon goon, give up alt, over commit, whatever, to kill the one upper. Inevitably my (and others with me) upping leads to some much better (than me at least) pilots making it to the fight when the horde has done all of these wrong things and they get cleaned up. Very satisfying. And the best part, the reason to not detune 200, is the inevitable response this incurs from the defeated horde "buncha pickers" and "gangt@#&$".
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as a horde fighter from day one...I can say....I enjoy them every time :rock
live or "die" does not matter.....the adrenaline rush of making 5 or more guys try to kill me is just over the top....
you will never hear me complain about being ganged...the more the better :joystick:
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as a horde fighter from day one...I can say....I enjoy them every time :rock
live or "die" does not matter.....the adrenaline rush of making 5 or more guys try to kill me is just over the top....
you will never hear me complain about being ganged...the more the better :joystick:
be nice if more shared your same mentality, ink.....rofl...... some just don't get it.....it is all about the fight win or lose
TC
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It might be hard to believe, but there was a time when "hordes" left people to finish 1vs1's.
Of course we all paid per hour and were more considerate in general...
I rarely complain about getting ganged. But I will call people out for flying like little girls that need to have their hand held. Interpret that however you want.
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Mikev,
I also try and avoid Head Ons especially when there are overwhelming numbers in our favor (disagree.... kill at all costs).
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i was referring to the underdogs chilli , i may have been killed most of the time but i believe this is a team type of game and it sure helps to know someone has your back sometimes
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lots of complaints on 200 about pilots flying into hoards then complaining about the odds after they get shot down. I just have to say that if you do this its your own fault. their are only a few pilots i know that can even manage to even the odds and even they get shot down.
if you fly into a out numbered situation , whats everybody suppose to do let you shot us down 1 by 1? thats crazy. if i see 1 of my team pilot in trouble i will come to their aid and i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it .
choose your fights wisely , find a better strategy , but if you fly into an outnumbered situation your the blame for what happens nobody else.
Larger problem is the hordes tend to avoid one another opting for the easy capture rather then to actually fight. While the path of least resistance makes perfect sense to Sun Tsu and real world combat. Its counter productive in a game where the idea is to..Well...fight.
What cracks me up is the hordes that take a base either completely or nearly completely undefended with incredible odds in their favor then slap each other on the back as though they accomplished something significant
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Larger problem is the hordes tend to avoid one another opting for the easy capture rather then to actually fight. While the path of least resistance makes perfect sense to Sun Tsu and real world combat. Its counter productive in a game where the idea is to..Well...fight.
What cracks me up is the hordes that take a base either completely or nearly completely undefended with incredible odds in their favor then slap each other on the back as though they accomplished something significant
have to agree with ya dred , its the furball most people i thought like , the taking of bases with no defense or very little is part of the reason i started this. the pilots take off with little chance then complain because they were shot down.
like i said before there are maybe a dozen pilots i have seen who can even manage this and i believe you to be 1 of the 12
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ya know, if my memory is serving me correctly, I recall a few times I took up winging with DREDIOCK, and we always had fun... regardless of the odds or the hordes........
we held true covering each other and bringing our scalps home to land, it has been many many years, but DRED was a hell of a wingman (Pardner), that
I truly enjoyed winging with, gosh that seems like over 10 years ago if I really think bout it...
TC <--- who thinks is too much in the sauce at the moment, heh!
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have to agree with ya dred , its the furball most people i thought like , the taking of bases with no defense or very little is part of the reason i started this. the pilots take off with little chance then complain because they were shot down.
like i said before there are maybe a dozen pilots i have seen who can even manage this and i believe you to be 1 of the 12
I dont mind taking bases. It can be fun. I dont mind loosing bases so long as I had fun defending and made you pay and work for it.
Thing is if we take or loose a base I'd much rather the base capture be earned. And not essentially for all intents and purposes,free but the time wasted attacking nothing but a bunch of buildings. Then its something to back slap about.
IMO There is no better a fun fight to be had in the MA then the titanic and sometimes desperate struggle over a base or sometimes both bases. And there is often something in it for everyone. Fighters, GVers, Air to ground GV killers, Buffs, buff hunters, Buff defenders etc etc. No matter what type of fight your looking for. They can usually be had in these struggles. Having a rough time of it in one thing. An off night or just plain bored or don't feel like doing one thing. Simply switch to something else for a while. On the ground it, like in the air is often not a spawn camp but a war that more closely resembles what a ground war should be. Not a spawn camp but movement. Gaining ground and holding positions long enough for the capture to take place. Or desperately holding a town against attackers just long enough for relief to arrive or the town to start popping.
Those titanic struggles speak to me what the game can be, and should be.
Base captures are fun. Base losses can still be fun. But they are made the most fun not by being free and easy. But by how much you paid for them
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Larger problem is the hordes tend to avoid one another opting for the easy capture rather then to actually fight. While the path of least resistance makes perfect sense to Sun Tsu and real world combat. Its counter productive in a game where the idea is to..Well...fight.
What cracks me up is the hordes that take a base either completely or nearly completely undefended with incredible odds in their favor then slap each other on the back as though they accomplished something significant
I disagree, I haven't seen hordes avoiding each other. I've seen Knights attempting to capture a Rooks/Bishops base and them responding with what appeared to be a pretty organized approach. M3's resupplying the base and town and mustering a horde of their own to counter and in some cases out number the attacking horde. But from a planning standpoint and organizing a Mission, having that mission arrive at a base undetected and from first bomb drop to putting troops in the Map room, taking just four or five minutes, that's a thing of beauty.
Everyone knows when a base if being attacked, it's not secret, every base flashes when aircraft enter the radar ring, every town flashes when a GV gets in range. The attacking force has done their job, if the defenders chose not to put up a fight whose fault is that? There are lots of fights out there on any given day. I'm based on the east coast and that appears to be prime time all the time. So stop complaining about how people chose to play and just enjoy the game. It takes two to have a dog fight, if people attacking an airfield show up and no defenders up to dog fight, who's fault is that? not the attackers.
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ya know, if my memory is serving me correctly, I recall a few times I took up winging with DREDIOCK, and we always had fun... regardless of the odds or the hordes........
we held true covering each other and bringing our scalps home to land, it has been many many years, but DRED was a hell of a wingman (Pardner), that
I truly enjoyed winging with, gosh that seems like over 10 years ago if I really think bout it...
TC <--- who thinks is too much in the sauce at the moment, heh!
It probably does. You're a known commodity which are the ones I prefer to wing with either by design or chance. With known commodities you know you are with someone you can trust to work with you. With the unknowns. Well. you just dont know what you are going to get. If you are going to get your 6 cleared or just be used as unwitting bait. Are they going to suddenly up and leave without warning? Are they going to communicate with you something that you may not see or what they are doing or what they need you to do? Are they going to help you to help them? If you put your arse on the line to save them will they do likewise?
With unknowns you just dont know.
Some advice for the new guys. Become known. More importantly, become known as an asset. Someone that can be counted on in a fight.
Dont just fly by that 3 V 1. Dive into the fray to help out even if its not always in your best personal interests or original intentions.
Communicate. Using people as bait is fine but call out what you need someone to do. Help them help you.
And if they tell you to do something in trying to help you. Do it. Learn to trust them and they will learn to trust you.
Communicate your intentions. Learn to set the person you are with up. And he will do likewise.
Examples
Skinny - "Hey Fatso. I'm comming in on that spit on your 6"
Fatso -"Ok thanks. He seems target fixated and I dont think he see's you Im going to take take him up in an immelman/hard climb sharp left/right whatever"
Your wingman now knows what to expect and what the opponents likely moves are going to be and can act accordingly
Another is the guy helping you but because of whatever reason, speed, angle, alt people on him whatever may need you to do something to help you
Fatso- Im comming in to help out with that Dora, take him on a slow turn to the left." (or whatever direction or move he requests)
If possible. Do it. A turn to the left doesnt mean turn right, split S, Immelman or hard climb. It means turn left. Its of no help to either of you if requested to do one thing you do another.
You will in time become amazed at what a couple of people communicating and working as a team can accomplish. It takes trust and communication and most important. Participation.
Become known as an asset and you will find your efforts returned 10 fold
Will it always work in your favor? Nope. sometimes you will die anyway or die for your efforts while the helping the other person survive. And sometimes the person you are with will.
But you will become known and find other people more willing to work with you.
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I disagree, I haven't seen hordes avoiding each other.
This is a joke...right?
Im sure someone here can provide a map screenshot of exactly this happening.
Depending on the map. Its quite a common occurrence
I am east coast based also. In fact the same state as you.
Hello fellow New Joiseyan
"where the weak are killed and eaten"
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This is a joke...right?
Im sure someone here can provide a map screenshot of exactly this happening.
Depending on the map. Its quite a common occurrence
I am east coast based also. In fact the same state as you.
Hello fellow New Joiseyan
"where the weak are killed and eaten"
No, not a joke. I base that on 15 years of playing aces high with no breaks. Screen shots of exactly what happening? empty sky? I fly Saturday evenings with my squad 113th Lucky Strikes and we always seem to find the fights, hordes and all, even those flying BarCap over an area of approach or Cap over a base. Do I see groups attempting to sneak a base, sure do, but if no one ups to defend at the base being attacked or comes to the area to contest the attack, that's not the fault of group doing the attacking and their not the ones avoiding the fight.
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It probably does. You're a known commodity which are the ones I prefer to wing with either by design or chance. With known commodities you know you are with someone you can trust to work with you. With the unknowns. Well. you just dont know what you are going to get. If you are going to get your 6 cleared or just be used as unwitting bait. Are they going to suddenly up and leave without warning? Are they going to communicate with you something that you may not see or what they are doing or what they need you to do? Are they going to help you to help them? If you put your arse on the line to save them will they do likewise?
With unknowns you just dont know.
Some advice for the new guys. Become known. More importantly, become known as an asset. Someone that can be counted on in a fight.
Dont just fly by that 3 V 1. Dive into the fray to help out even if its not always in your best personal interests or original intentions.
Communicate. Using people as bait is fine but call out what you need someone to do. Help them help you.
And if they tell you to do something in trying to help you. Do it. Learn to trust them and they will learn to trust you.
Communicate your intentions. Learn to set the person you are with up. And he will do likewise.
Examples
Skinny - "Hey Fatso. I'm comming in on that spit on your 6"
Fatso -"Ok thanks. He seems target fixated and I dont think he see's you Im going to take take him up in an immelman/hard climb sharp left/right whatever"
Your wingman now knows what to expect and what the opponents likely moves are going to be and can act accordingly
Another is the guy helping you but because of whatever reason, speed, angle, alt people on him whatever may need you to do something to help you
Fatso- Im comming in to help out with that Dora, take him on a slow turn to the left." (or whatever direction or move he requests)
If possible. Do it. A turn to the left doesnt mean turn right, split S, Immelman or hard climb. It means turn left. Its of no help to either of you if requested to do one thing you do another.
You will in time become amazed at what a couple of people communicating and working as a team can accomplish. It takes trust and communication and most important. Participation.
Become known as an asset and you will find your efforts returned 10 fold
Will it always work in your favor? Nope. sometimes you will die anyway or die for your efforts while the helping the other person survive. And sometimes the person you are with will.
But you will become known and find other people more willing to work with you.
Some advice for the new guys. Become known. More importantly, become known as an asset. Someone that can be counted on in a fight.
I think you just nailed it on the head dred . this is the type of flying i try to do all the time. even though i an a new player . it gets me in trouble alot but i am getting better . as i cut off the 3 v 1 the 1 usually goes bye bye and then i am alone 3 v me. this has happen alot which is why i fly the spit alot because i can out turn the ponies and jugs. zeeks and others require a bit more radical moves. last night i performed a split s by cutting power at about 1600 feet missing the trees by less then i want to judge. not that it helped alot still got shot down but it was a proxy by dogface.
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No, not a joke. I base that on 15 years of playing aces high with no breaks. Screen shots of exactly what happening? empty sky? I fly Saturday evenings with my squad 113th Lucky Strikes and we always seem to find the fights, hordes and all, even those flying BarCap over an area of approach or Cap over a base. Do I see groups attempting to sneak a base, sure do, but if no one ups to defend at the base being attacked or comes to the area to contest the attack, that's not the fault of group doing the attacking and their not the ones avoiding the fight.
You my be have trouble "seeing the forest for the trees", or in plain english, you and your squad more often than not are part of the horde on Saturday nights.
The OP stated he would jump in and help someone that needed help, something along the line of "i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it". Do you ask if your teammate needs/wants help? I know I like it if Im asked if I need help. Even vs a couple I like to fight my way out if I think I have a chance.
2nd thing, if your in the horde attacking the base and one of your buddies gets in a fight you jumping in does a few things. Takes a player away from the attack, if your too busy ganging a defender your not helping in the attack really. You also taking away a learning experience for the player your saving. Most players don't practice or train. The only training they get is hands on in the MAINS. By you jumping in your contributing to the lack of skill so many players show. How are they ever going to get better if someone is always bailing them out?
3rd. the guys you jumped in to save, if he has already dropped his bombs or for-filled his roll in the mission, why NOT let him fight it out? He is after all keeping a defender busy.
Hordes will never be good for the game. Like someone posted above, why not just play off-line and capture all the bases you want if you don't want to fight for them.
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You my be have trouble "seeing the forest for the trees", or in plain english, you and your squad more often than not are part of the horde on Saturday nights.
The OP stated he would jump in and help someone that needed help, something along the line of "i dont care if i have to ho, cut off , even collide with the other plane ,you are the cartoon enemy trying to kill my teammate, sorry if you dont like it". Do you ask if your teammate needs/wants help? I know I like it if Im asked if I need help. Even vs a couple I like to fight my way out if I think I have a chance.
2nd thing, if your in the horde attacking the base and one of your buddies gets in a fight you jumping in does a few things. Takes a player away from the attack, if your too busy ganging a defender your not helping in the attack really. You also taking away a learning experience for the player your saving. Most players don't practice or train. The only training they get is hands on in the MAINS. By you jumping in your contributing to the lack of skill so many players show. How are they ever going to get better if someone is always bailing them out?
3rd. the guys you jumped in to save, if he has already dropped his bombs or for-filled his roll in the mission, why NOT let him fight it out? He is after all keeping a defender busy.
Hordes will never be good for the game. Like someone posted above, why not just play off-line and capture all the bases you want if you don't want to fight for them.
No, you got it wrong, the 113th announces where we plan to attack, others seem to follow us, if you noticed Saturday the 113th arrived ahead of the horde to take down the hangers. We can't tell not to attack a base that we are attacking now can we????????? Not sure if it was your intention to direct the rest of your rant at me, I believe someone else posted about jumping in and HOing and the like, not me.
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Saturday the 113th arrived ahead of the horde to take down the hangers..
I'm not real sure how this promotes fighting, maybe it's just me, but this is pure hoard mentality it seems.
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We're all about that fight, as long as we take out the FH's first. :lol
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We're all about that fight, as long as we take out the FH's first. :lol
Never said that. We are aabout the capture.
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The Horde or the NOE horde are fun to find and bust before they get to target, what I like to do is fly over them and act like I don't see them then when they're out of icon range wait a minute or so then head back and start working your way from the back to the front it's quite amusing to watch them scatter like cockroaches when somebody turns the light on. :x
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No, you got it wrong, the 113th announces where we plan to attack, others seem to follow us, if you noticed Saturday the 113th arrived ahead of the horde to take down the hangers. We can't tell not to attack a base that we are attacking now can we????????? Not sure if it was your intention to direct the rest of your rant at me, I believe someone else posted about jumping in and HOing and the like, not me.
No only the first line was directed at you, the rest was for the OP.
So by pointing out this one instance were your squad arrived BEFORE the horde means you don't fly WITH the horde ever right? :devil
Like a few others have pointed out why kill the hangers? I can see the VH, wirbies just add to the bomb count you need to capture a base, those things can be like roaches sometimes. If you have THAT many guys following in the horde why can't you cap a field well enough to drop the town and get troops in? I would think the challenge would add to the trill of the capture.
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Mikey!! :-) you stirring up the hornets nest again? :devil :cheers:
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Mikey!! :-) you stirring up the hornets nest again? :devil :cheers:
naw Scotty, im not a trouble maker i just cant see why people got to talk trash and throw explicit name calling over a game. lets face it some of the stuff is totally unnecessary. some of it is funny though. it just seems like some people take this game way to seriously and when it gets personal and out of hand i have to start squelching. its a game not a soap opera chatroom :salute
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P38 hordes are the best. You should hear Save giggle like a schoolgirl when ever we find ones. :x
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No only the first line was directed at you, the rest was for the OP.
So by pointing out this one instance were your squad arrived BEFORE the horde means you don't fly WITH the horde ever right? :devil
Like a few others have pointed out why kill the hangers? I can see the VH, wirbies just add to the bomb count you need to capture a base, those things can be like roaches sometimes. If you have THAT many guys following in the horde why can't you cap a field well enough to drop the town and get troops in? I would think the challenge would add to the trill of the capture.
We attack to capture and we generally arrive ahead of others, who then attack the town followed by the troops . Do we fly with the horde, sure do, if it suites our purpose. We also spend time re-supplying bases and pork Ords to suppress the enemies ability to attack. The 113th always tries to take and hold bases. We kill the hangers to support our efforts at the base capture and we have taken down the hangers repeatedly at bases where capture has taken hours to accomplish. Every 15 minutes like clock work. You have flown with us and against us and know very well what it is that the 113th does, so why ask here. We often have to fight our way in destroy assigned targets and fight our way out. As I said, I've never found a shortage of fights in 15 years.
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We attack to capture and we generally arrive ahead of others, who then attack the town followed by the troops . Do we fly with the horde, sure do, if it suites our purpose. We also spend time re-supplying bases and pork Ords to suppress the enemies ability to attack. The 113th always tries to take and hold bases. We kill the hangers to support our efforts at the base capture and we have taken down the hangers repeatedly at bases where capture has taken hours to accomplish. Every 15 minutes like clock work. You have flown with us and against us and know very well what it is that the 113th does, so why ask here. We often have to fight our way in destroy assigned targets and fight our way out. As I said, I've never found a shortage of fights in 15 years.
....because we are having a discussion about hordes. You have the ability (leader of a squad that still holds squad night, one of the few I can see <S>), and the option to fly away from hordes yet you do not. You have built in wingman (I believe you guys assign wingman do you not?) and could easily fight/cap a field yet you feel the need to drop hangers instead of fight.
I'm curious as to why?
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The most effective way to fight the horde is top down with a fast cannon bird. :rolleyes:
The most fun way is from the bottom up in something maneuverable. :rock
Amen. For a parts scattering cartoon pilot like me, it's the only way :)
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