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Title: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Tom5572 on March 03, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
It seems like there is a trend going on, people not returning salutes. What is going on with that?
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Hap on March 03, 2015, 10:13:45 PM
Tom, I squelch that channel, so they do not clutter the text buffer.  I've become an old guy with old guy eyes.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Tom5572 on March 03, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Even the .s salutes are being ignored, like they cost extra.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Dragon Tamer on March 03, 2015, 10:41:29 PM
They've just got a bunch of sticks up their butts!  :old:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 03, 2015, 10:49:33 PM
I always S the one on one even if its a lost cause like my 47 being jumped by a Spit. I will even return salute if your name RuAml and you backstabbed me in a supersonic pass while I was turnfighting 2 i16 :neener:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: BushLT1 on March 03, 2015, 11:16:49 PM
 :salute.... Anytime .... Anyplace
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Volron on March 04, 2015, 01:50:28 AM
It honestly depends.  If I see it, and I'm in a position where I can return it, then I will.  If I've ever been sent one and I didn't respond, I didn't see it and/or am too busy to send one back.  Usually it's that I didn't see it, simply because I don't get them that often and am not looking for one.  I tend to stick to bombers, so I will very rarely get one. :)
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Latrobe on March 04, 2015, 01:55:09 AM
I return <S>'s whenever I see them. I'm the same as Volron. If I didn't send one back it's because I didn't see it or I'm too busy at the moment (probably still fighting 3 or 4 enemies :)  ). I tend to forget the send a <S> back after I'm no longer busy as my memory is fair bad these days.

I'll always send a <S> to someone that I have an amazing fight with.  :cheers: :mad:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: scott66 on March 04, 2015, 02:40:18 AM
It seems like there is a trend going on, people not returning salutes. What is going on with that?
thought about posting this thread myself..many times..there are some that have not and will not ever return a  salute.it..I can handle losing a fight no matter what the circumstances but continually not returning a salute means either they don't have there text buffer up or is taking this game way to seriously IMHO
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Pluto on March 04, 2015, 03:20:32 AM
Happens to me alot. I was assuming its because I'm a newer player maybe? 
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: -ammo- on March 04, 2015, 05:14:50 AM
I always S the one on one even if its a lost cause like my 47 being jumped by a Spit. I will even return salute if your name RuAml and you backstabbed me in a supersonic pass while I was turnfighting 2 i16 :neener:

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: -ammo- on March 04, 2015, 05:16:16 AM
I return <S>'s whenever I see them. I'm the same as Volron. If I didn't send one back it's because I didn't see it or I'm too busy at the moment (probably still fighting 3 or 4 enemies :)  ). I tend to forget the send a <S> back after I'm no longer busy as my memory is fair bad these days.

I'll always send a <S> to someone that I have an amazing fight with.  :cheers: :mad:

So that's why.  Forgive me for calling you a donkey's rear under my breath :aok
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: lulu on March 04, 2015, 05:44:33 AM
The question is not well posed.    :old:
 
The well posed question is:

Why, for the hell, people send <S> in a furballing ?    :mad:    :neener:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: NikonGuy on March 04, 2015, 07:23:31 AM
Its called common courtesy :)  :salute
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Bizman on March 04, 2015, 07:31:11 AM
I don't find it too hard to return a Salute within a few minutes, I can type .rs with my left hand only if needed. What I don't quite understand is that some people return my Salute by typing on 200, which takes much more time and effort than the simple dot command. Maybe there's even long time players who have never heard about the .rs command?
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 04, 2015, 07:35:58 AM
It honestly depends.  If I see it, and I'm in a position where I can return it, then I will.  If I've ever been sent one and I didn't respond, I didn't see it and/or am too busy to send one back.

This about covers it. I never intentionally not return a salute

Sometimes I end up out of one fight and right into the next. Also its hard to return a <S> if engaged with multiple cons.
Also sometimes right after a fight I may go AFK while either in the tower or more often then not on climbout
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Lazerr on March 04, 2015, 08:41:58 AM
The butthurt is strong when people die these days.. cartoon style
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Changeup on March 04, 2015, 09:44:06 AM
The butthurt is strong when people die these days.. cartoon style

Yes, so much so that they actually go out of their way avoid the combat part of the combat sim...
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 04, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
The butthurt is strong when people die these days.. cartoon style

No excuse, common courtesy says you respond. I try to salute anyone I get a kill on, not that there is very many, or anyone that gave me a good fight or a great shot. :old:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Arlo on March 04, 2015, 10:41:19 AM
Nobody is returning my salutes. How wude!    :salute  :old:

(I stopped habitually saluting back and forth with the exception of seeing old friends years ago -   not that I play as often. Try not to take offense and just think of me as silently respecting you as I try to keep my situational awaremess intact.)
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Aspen on March 04, 2015, 10:56:10 AM
Can't think of a time I have ever not returned a salute.  I'm sure I missed a few being preoccupied with trying to undo whatever hopeless spot I put my poor plane in, but if I see them, I return them.

There are times in life when being respectful, polite and courteous needs to be set aside.  A silly video game isn't one of those times on my list.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Hetzer7 on March 04, 2015, 11:07:30 AM
A lot of players have 200 turned off; not because of the salutes, but because of the overwhelming amount of drivel due to some players needing to post every tepid little thought that flits across their frontal lobe.

Personally I have the chat windows seperated into four seperate little windows, stacked on top of each other: 1 window is SYSTEM, next is 200, then HOST, and finally COUNTRY on bottom. that way the channels are separated.


<S> - Hetz

Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Bizman on March 04, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Hetz, salutes aren't on 200 if they're done by .s <name>, I believe they can't even be muted (I may be wrong on this, haven't checked)
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Hetzer7 on March 04, 2015, 11:42:08 AM
Hmm, I had 200 muted for the longest time, and recalled not getting salutes i thought because of that.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Wiley on March 04, 2015, 11:49:16 AM
Hmm, I had 200 muted for the longest time, and recalled not getting salutes i thought because of that.

If they type '<S> Hetzer' in 200, you wouldn't see it.  If they did a '.s hetzer' you would.  I can't remember if turning off 'system' in your chat window gets rid of the .s messages or not.  I know you can remove country channel that way, but can't remember where that system wide stuff falls.

Wiley.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Shamus on March 04, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
I try to return all salutes if I see them no matter what the circumstances. If I loose an especially good fight I will normally salute. I don't salute fights that I win because I have been accused of gloating in the past when I did that. 
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Tumor on March 04, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
Do you salute your "other half" when he or she trounces you in a pillow fight?  Not meaning to offend, but I'll salute when I feel like it and won't when I don't.  I never prefer to in a game, I did enough saluting in real life.  Besides, whether you win and I lose or vice versa, ultimately I couldn't care less.... I'm still gonna log off and forget everything that happened before the next time I log on.  That said, about the only time I DO salute is because it's a quick, abbreviated mass acknowledgement to "way to go's".
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: LilMak on March 04, 2015, 01:38:38 PM
Most of the time I will return a salute.

Instances where I won't...
You did something lame.
I completely missed the it because I was occupied with something else or AFK.
And least likely...I simply, for one reason or another, don't like you.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: HawkerMKII on March 04, 2015, 01:57:48 PM
Salutes can be turned off just like 200 and many players that are squelched, to bad we can only do 10 :mad:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: -ammo- on March 04, 2015, 02:06:52 PM
Most of the time I will return a salute.

Instances where I won't...
You did something lame.
I completely missed the it because I was occupied with something else or AFK.
And least likely...I simply, for one reason or another, don't like you.
:rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Volron on March 04, 2015, 02:24:43 PM
I don't find it too hard to return a Salute within a few minutes, I can type .rs with my left hand only if needed. What I don't quite understand is that some people return my Salute by typing on 200, which takes much more time and effort than the simple dot command. Maybe there's even long time players who have never heard about the .rs command?

You know, I COMPLETELY forgot about that .rs command.  The last two times I returned a salute, was through the box standard .salute command.  lol


I've been around since Tour 113... :o
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Mongoose on March 04, 2015, 02:26:19 PM
It honestly depends.  If I see it, and I'm in a position where I can return it, then I will.  If I've ever been sent one and I didn't respond, I didn't see it and/or am too busy to send one back. 

  If I send a salute, and don't get a return, I figure this is why, and I move on.   :salute
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Mar on March 04, 2015, 03:06:20 PM
I want to see salutes flying around the arena left and right, at least ten per second! I don't care how busy you are, drop what you're doing and get to it people! :old:

But seriously, as stated in this thread already, some will salute because they want to, others will not because of any number of reasons. So if you like someone or had a good fight with someone or just feel like typing .s at someone go right ahead, but don't take it personally if you don't get one back.

Of course, if you get something like the opposite of a salute back then you can take it personally. :bolt:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Rich46yo on March 04, 2015, 03:30:01 PM
Salutes used to be almost automatic. 'course so were quality 1 on 1s that deserved a salute.

Im not saluting anyone who picks or ends up being one of the 4 on 1 who gets the kill. Over the years you always find a few who fight so dishonorably/arrogantly you'd never give a <S> no matter what they do.

It seems nowdays I never get a reply from a player who deserves the salute. Who knows the reason? Who cares?
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Lazerr on March 04, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
My favorite no salute situation is beating multiple cons from underneath.  I imagine them breaking a keyboard in half or rage quitting for the night. :D
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: ink on March 04, 2015, 04:28:12 PM
My favorite no salute situation is beating multiple cons from underneath.  I imagine them breaking a keyboard in half or rage quitting for the night. :D

 :rofl


I always return a <S> unless I miss it...or I am still fighting......
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: The Fugitive on March 04, 2015, 05:05:12 PM
Having been in the service, salutes are about honor and respect. I'll give a salute, or return a salute if it was a good fight, win or lose. If you pick me, vulch me, or I do the same to you I don't give salutes, nor expect them.

And there is that, if your giving salute because you expect one in return, your missing the whole point of a salute. A salute is NOT like a high five or something.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Slash27 on March 04, 2015, 05:27:38 PM
I don't find it too hard to return a Salute within a few minutes, I can type .rs with my left hand only if needed. What I don't quite understand is that some people return my Salute by typing on 200, which takes much more time and effort than the simple dot command. Maybe there's even long time players who have never heard about the .rs command?
I didn't even know about the dot rs command. Learn something new everyday, thanks Biz.  :aok
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: pipz on March 04, 2015, 05:49:18 PM
<S>
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: 230G on March 04, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
 Three reason salutes are not returned: 1) I don't know how the hell to do it. 2) I don't know where to looks to find out. 3) In a furball I'm sure I miss some, and don't have time to return them.

  230G
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Someguy63 on March 04, 2015, 05:54:59 PM
I'll be honest, if I'm pissed or heavily annoyed I ignore them. This isn't often for me though. Otherwise I don't salute if I'm muted, AFK, in a fight or didn't see it.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: matt on March 04, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
It seems like there is a trend going on, people not returning salutes. What is going on with that?
<S> flakhapy
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Tom5572 on March 04, 2015, 10:18:13 PM
<S> sir.

For me, it is not an ego thing. If I am in a good fight, I salute, win or lose. I will also salute anyone who flies their tail off in a multi v one engagement. They earned it.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Fate on March 05, 2015, 09:38:44 AM
Having been in the service, salutes are about honor and respect. I'll give a salute, or return a salute if it was a good fight, win or lose. If you pick me, vulch me, or I do the same to you I don't give salutes, nor expect them.

And there is that, if your giving salute because you expect one in return, your missing the whole point of a salute. A salute is NOT like a high five or something.

Well said. That's my take on salutes as well.

People may dismiss salutes, but to me, they're one of best indicators I use to judge another player's character. Not that my opinion of them matters. :rofl But I have much more respect for a mediocre pilot who acknowledges a good fight than I do a skilled pilot who's both a poor winner & loser.

Not surprisingly, the players I've found most reluctant to salute happen to also be the ones who pad their scores with hoard victories, avoid 1-1 engagements they don't have extreme advantage in, and HO like it's their job. Again - it all comes down to character.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Bruv119 on March 05, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
 :salute
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Scca on March 05, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
<S>
<S>

It had to be returned  :)
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: 230G on March 05, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
This is interesting  to say the least..... Six replies since I posted that I don't know how to salute or return a salute, and none of the folks griping about this subject bothered to post instructions on saluting  :headscratch:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: DubiousKB on March 05, 2015, 10:34:00 AM
Enter text buffer,

type dot command for salute and the player ID you wish to salute (on opposite country).

".s KB"

".s player_i_killed"

".s player_who_killed_me"
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Wiley on March 05, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
Or alternately... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=al5bErqFrDQ)

Wiley.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: 230G on March 05, 2015, 11:13:53 AM
Enter text buffer,

type dot command for salute and the player ID you wish to salute (on opposite country).

".s KB"

".s player_i_killed"

".s player_who_killed_me"

  Thanks! Now I can and will salute!
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: jeep00 on March 05, 2015, 11:26:34 AM
  Thanks! Now I can and will salute!

I can't recall if it is one of the roster right click options. Should be, some people have some hard names to type from memory.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Bizman on March 05, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
I can't recall if it is one of the roster right click options. Should be, some people have some hard names to type from memory.
You're right! Fortunately the text buffer can be scrolled back to the very start of the playing session if needed. Especially names you can't pronounce are quite hard to type correctly. Also "normal" names with a seemingly meaningless number 1 in the end often need a retyping for that "1".
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
Someone got their bellybutton handed to them and they gave a one fingered salute. It got stuck.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: -ammo- on March 05, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Someone got their bellybutton handed to them and they gave a one fingered salute. It got stuck.



The proper way to display that salute is <finger>; which has gotten me muted more than once
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: mikev on March 05, 2015, 02:06:32 PM
 i will always return a salute  but i never get 1 cause im always the 1 who gets shot down hehehehe.
  when i have a good fight i will always salute. when in a crowd mostly i do not salute my killer because  there is rarely a good fight involved. however if there is a good shot involved i will always give the other player a reply on 200 let him know  "good shot" or something to  acknowledge a fine job.
   I agree some players take this game to seriously , I play to have fun and as a newbie i am starting to know which other players like to have fun as well. so to all you players who play this game to have fun <S>
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: darkzking on March 05, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
i will always return a salute  but i never get 1 cause im always the 1 who gets shot down hehehehe.
  when i have a good fight i will always salute. when in a crowd mostly i do not salute my killer because  there is rarely a good fight involved. however if there is a good shot involved i will always give the other player a reply on 200 let him know  "good shot" or something to  acknowledge a fine job.
   I agree some players take this game to seriously , I play to have fun and as a newbie i am starting to know which other players like to have fun as well. so to all you players who play this game to have fun <S>
what about that time you killed my p39 while i was flying through hangers and i gave you that huge <S> :D :cheers: :salute
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Mar on March 05, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
<<S>> MAGIC59 :cheers:
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Stang on March 05, 2015, 03:29:24 PM
There is no salute function in Call of Duty. The ends justify the means crowd and win at all costs people can't handle a good fight if they lose, and if they do send a salute it's facetious at best, mocking you after they ho'd you for the "win" most likely.

I wouldn't sweat it, Tom. You'll contine to fly and act with class, let it be an example maybe a few people will pick up on and realize it's the better way to play.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: dirtdart on March 05, 2015, 06:25:10 PM
Tom :salute

headed to ntc rotation number 23 in a week.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: CeeEff on March 05, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
I have to be one of the more guilty ones. My SA seldome includes my own six, let alone the text buffer.
I also did not know that one can send/return a salute on any channel. I always thought it had to be 200.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: pipz on March 05, 2015, 07:07:18 PM
<S>

It had to be returned  :)

 :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Oldman731 on March 05, 2015, 07:30:24 PM
I also did not know that one can send/return a salute on any channel. I always thought it had to be 200.


Heh, so did I!

- oldman
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Tom5572 on March 05, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Have a good time in the box dirt. I think I am done with NTC. Headed to Gordon.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: dirtdart on March 08, 2015, 07:51:20 PM
^^^ can't tell you how many times I have said that... lol.

Good news is, I will back in the game in 18-months or so. Still have a tour in Kuwait to get through before I dive back in.
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Mongoose on March 09, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
The proper way to display that salute is <finger>; which has gotten me muted more than once[/size]

  Oooo.  Make this a wishlist item.  Wish for a ".f" command, which gives the other player the finger, and the sender gets automatically muted.  "You flipped off <player>, and have been muted for it."

The receiving player gets a text that says "<player> flipped you off, and has been muted."    :x
Title: Re: What happened to the Salutes
Post by: Yankee67 on March 09, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
Not sure how anyone else feels, but getting bomb****ed and vulched doesn't normally induce a salute from me.  I try hard to salute in other situations.  And for some reason, if I get a kill on someone and I don't get a salute, it doesn't bother me in the least.  It very well may be a lost social grace, but I've never been perturbed over not getting one.