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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SysError on March 05, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
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From now on if I down (or if I see go down) 2 drones of bomber formation flown by a Newbie, I’m going to let the last one go. If needed, I’ll encourage country team members to do the same.
:airplane: :joystick:
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I tired something like that for a time and the result was some very vitriolic PM's on several occasions by different players.
Besides, with all that names coming and going it's often hard for me to tell who's really a newb and who not.
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I keep seeing guys I have never heard of before handling some rides like pro's. This gives me the impression that more people seem to be changing their Handle these days.
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May be old vets checking in on the AH3 rumors who don't want to pony up $14.95 each month. It's hard not to notice some signature ACM moves and then do a W-t-Fudge maple brownies at the idiot ID after the engagement.
It's been getting obvious lately we have a bunch of newbi ringers in the crowd.
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In the end, what's the difference? The game needs more players and if it means a seasoned vet returning...all the better. It is kinda funny tho seeing a new ID, who's wearing 2 stars after a cpl days. :rofl
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The nicest guy in Aces High will not give new players unrealistic expectations by failing to destroy every one of their planes and vehicles that I can. This I promise! :aok
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I've been doing this for years now, and not just to new guys but everyone. My general rules are kill them all inbound, let one live if they are outbound. I throw them a <S>, tell them I'm breaking off and "The last one is yours to land" on a PM.
I do it to encourage players to keep coming back. I've flown buffs before and it is a long and thankless mission.
I've had very friendly responses from this. On a rare occasion I've been told "You're just scared I'll kill you if you make another pass", which I kindly respond by turning back to them and blowing them out of the sky.
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It is kinda funny tho seeing a new ID, who's wearing 2 stars after a cpl days. :rofl
You can have two stars instantly with a 'new' ID... If you had them before you changed your name. Unlike perks, achievements and stars survive a change of ID ;)
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I've been doing this for years now, and not just to new guys but everyone. My general rules are kill them all inbound, let one live if they are outbound. I throw them a <S>, tell them I'm breaking off and "The last one is yours to land" on a PM.
You realize this is passive aggresive. Your making them (me) have to navigate the moral shoals between scylla (a long dull flight home) and charybdis (the disgrace of bombing and bailing,) while simultaneously emasculating them by "letting" them choose.
Shame on you.
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I have a really stuoid idea. What if the bombers used their guns and fought back...?
There are ways to shot down or evade even great bomber killers like snailman and zoney. Its hard but not impossible and against the average buff hunter u have more than a fair chance to kill a fighter before he kills u. I have even fought of a F4u for 25 mins in lancs and brought 2 planes home.
Edit: the entire debate is assuming that the bombers are completley defenceless when in reality a good buff pilot can makes his bombers into a really dangerous target for fighters.
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I have a really stuoid idea. What if the bombers used their guns and fought back...?
There are ways to shot down or evade even great bomber killers like snailman and zoney. Its hard but not impossible and against the average buff hunter u have more than a fair chance to kill a fighter before he kills u. I have even fought of a F4u for 25 mins in lancs and brought 2 planes home.
Edit: the entire debate is assuming that the bombers are completley defenceless when in reality a good buff pilot can makes his bombers into a really dangerous target for fighters.
That's because you're good. Many players aren't good and I want them to have a chance to get that last one home. I want to encourage them to keep trying and keep flying buffs so I have targets. They get plenty of practice trying to defend the first 2, I am attacking. They still have to make it home. They will encounter others who see that last lone buff and will attack it. Heck, if I happen to intercept a single buff I kill it too!
I've made many friends here just by being nice. Letting that last buff go, I think that is pretty nice and doing it has started many PM conversations.
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Zoney: i havent anything against that. It was about the bailing on first sight of resistance. B-17, B-24, B-26, B-29 and Ki-67 all have great defensive armament and are in no ay a turkey shoot for fighters.
We had 3 sets of B-26 on a medium level (14k) attack on an AAA factory, 4 fighters upped for us, 1 were shot down and the other 3 damaged for no bomber loss. Buff pilots must realize that they arent defenceless, and especially if they learn to fly together.
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It's a nice idea and to each your own. I know that had people taken it easy on me when I was a noon I wouldn't have had such a drive and urgency to learn how to defend the way I did. Tough love will make one hell of a player out of someone if they have what it takes. If they don't they just wash out.
Just for example how tough buffs can be, I ran into snail yesterday near knight city. I upped a single 29 in the hopes he would up and he did in his 152. He made 3 attempts at me. Neither on of us could shoot the other down. In the end ack flamed my single 29 as I started my drop. Against snail in a single buff it's tough but doable. There is no fixing the bail out problem. You have to fix the player. End the end it's their $15 and time.
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Yes I have seen alot of names I don't usually see and they are flying really well. I came across a name "Blender" I think he might be an old player and is just returning, but it was some darn great flying done by him.
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Blender has been around for years...glad he's back. Very good stick and a nice guy to boot...even if he is British :bolt:
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Blender has been around for years...glad he's back. Very good stick and a nice guy to boot
+1 great guy
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Blender has been around for years...glad he's back. Very good stick and a nice guy to boot...even if he is British :bolt:
Blender is an Australian ....
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From now on if I down (or if I see go down) 2 drones of bomber formation flown by a Newbie, I’m going to let the last one go. If needed, I’ll encourage country team members to do the same.
:airplane: :joystick:
If friendlys aren't around, I let one bomber go. This way I know the guy is occupied flying home rather than launching another box of buffs immediately. This break may be all we need to resupply the base.
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I guess it's all perspective. Recently I feel there are new names around, and after combating them they don't survive as long as the "vet" variety do. My guess is noobs or rusty vets.
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I keep seeing guys I have never heard of before handling some rides like pro's. This gives me the impression that more people seem to be changing their Handle these days.
It's possible to learn flying and ACM outside of Aces High. ;)
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If friendlys aren't around, I let one bomber go. This way I know the guy is occupied flying home rather than launching another box of buffs immediately. This break may be all we need to resupply the base.
Because it's not in the culture to play the right way in terms of the war there are plenty of times I will bail after bombing a strat.
For example, last week I went with 2 others and bombed the ammo factory of a country who was hording and had taken a base in our territory after taking back a half dozen of their own. To prevent a horrible night of defending against the horde I made the 1.5 hr 1 way flight deep into their country at 34k and fought my way in. Having dropped all ords, killed the last fighter, and called on country to pork the front in vain I bailed and porker it myself. I do this sometime but I never bail if someone upped for a fight No matter what condition my planes are in because they deserve it.
With that said I have no problem bomb and bailing if no one else is going to do what's needed. I just refuse to cheat someone out of a fight If they earn it. If I see a dar bar near me I wait until it passes. Never turn down an opportunity to fight and learn something. I know I'll get flak for what I said but it's my $15. Score isn't important to me these days. Someday it will be bit right now my goal is to make as much of an impact on the war effort as possible and I do that well.
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I learned how to fly bombers by getting shot down a lot.
Even as a noob I never wanted anything less then 100% effort from attackers.
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Never turn down an opportunity to fight and learn something.
I think this is key. All that people are saying is, if there's a fighter attacking a bomber, the bomber shouldn't bail. Just fight it out.
Otherwise, who cares if the bomber pilot bails?
- oldman
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I'm not sure that I thought that this would be a perfect scheme. Some are reasonably going to see it as a bad or counter productive idea. I do not agree, but I see their point.
I keep seeing guys I have never heard of before handling some rides like pro's. This gives me the impression that more people seem to be changing their Handle these days.
Someone once said that it is almost like there is now an Aces High witness protection program. :noid :noid :noid
I think that he was on the mark. :old:
I've been doing this for years now, and not just to new guys but everyone. My general rules are kill them all inbound, let one live if they are outbound. I throw them a <S>, tell them I'm breaking off and "The last one is yours to land" on a PM.
I do it to encourage players to keep coming back. I've flown buffs before and it is a long and thankless mission.
I've had very friendly responses from this. On a rare occasion I've been told "You're just scared I'll kill you if you make another pass", which I kindly respond by turning back to them and blowing them out of the sky.
I like this approach. :aok
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I've been doing this for years now, and not just to new guys but everyone. My general rules are kill them all inbound, let one live if they are outbound. I throw them a <S>, tell them I'm breaking off and "The last one is yours to land" on a PM.
I do it to encourage players to keep coming back. I've flown buffs before and it is a long and thankless mission.
I've had very friendly responses from this.
Yep same here, never got any negative feedback.....it keeps them comming back
Not saying that I haven't ever nailed all 3 but I try to let one get home for the effort put out by the buff pilot. I personally never liked the time it takes to run a buff sortie, and try to see it from their point of view.
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If I realize someone is really new I let them go after a kill or two. In fact I use to kill 2 buffs and let the 3rd one go. I like keeping one alive for interrogation. :)
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Besides, with all that names coming and going it's often hard for me to tell who's really a newb and who not.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<< is a newbie please dont shoot :pray please please i dont want to die again :cry :pray please please I promise all the bombs i drop may blow things up but they grow back :bolt:
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Blender is an Australian ....
Despite Australia being on the other side of the planet from the UK, trying to get an American to distinguish the inhabitants of of the various Commonwealth countries from each other is a bit of a reach.
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In the end, what's the difference? The game needs more players and if it means a seasoned vet returning...all the better. It is kinda funny tho seeing a new ID, who's wearing 2 stars after a cpl days. :rofl
2 stars? I haven't played in years but what is this about?
Edit to add: To put this in perspective. I flew AH for years and I don't recognize many of your names :) Just saying lol. AH has been around for like gosh almost 15 years?
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I shot down two of Bowwows B29s and let him land 1 :old:
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I shot down two of Bowwows B29s and let him land 1 :old:
Nancy boi! I bet you voted for Chamberland.............. :neener:
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AH has been around for like gosh almost 15 years?
think it will be 16 years this coming summer since beta
heck, I do not know of these "stars" these people speak of, I see them on the text buffer beside peoples gameids ( some have just 1, others have 3+ ), but I have yet to see any star pop up around my gameid :old:
TC
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Nancy boi! I bet you voted for Chamberland.............. :neener:
I voted for Chamberlame because i needed a extra piece of bog roll :old:
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2 stars? I haven't played in years but what is this about?
An indicator of player quality.
4 star players in particular are universally revered in AH for their wisdom, insane skills and amicable personalities. They are THE AH role model which the masses are trying to emulate. They also tend to be exceptionally beautiful people with mesmerizing, almost transcendental voices :old:
Oh, and I just got my 4th star this weekend :D
(For a serious answer: What are those stars next to people's names? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,370513.0.html) )
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2 stars? I haven't played in years but what is this about?
Edit to add: To put this in perspective. I flew AH for years and I don't recognize many of your names :) Just saying lol. AH has been around for like gosh almost 15 years?
Wow,Yucca the jug master, nice to see you name at least on the BB; come back ,teach this noobs some lessons; alway fun watching you flying the P47s pigs like A6Ms; :) :rock
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As long as you let the first 10 of my drunks enter the town it's all right. You can shoot the rest.
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An indicator of player quality.
4 star players in particular are universally revered in AH for their wisdom, insane skills and amicable personalities. They are THE AH role model which the masses are trying to emulate. They also tend to be exceptionally beautiful people with mesmerizing, almost transcendental voices :old:
Oh, and I just got my 4th star this weekend :D
(For a serious answer: What are those stars next to people's names? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,370513.0.html) )
Bomb(tard) much lately? :devil :bolt:
Congrats!
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bleh... if you're red, your dead. Or I am as I am a bomber gunner bullet magnet. Bomb-and-Bail is nothing more than a display of poor character.
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Bomb(tard) much lately? :devil :bolt
Actually the "kill GV by plane" achievement path is still far from being completed ;)
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Actually the "kill GV by plane" achievement path is still far from being completed ;)
I am not following you. What do you mean?
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I am not following you. What do you mean?
There are only so many levels to each achievement.
In the case of the "kill a GV by plane", and Im only guessing here at the levels as I only have one star....
10 gv kills 10 points
25 gv kills 25 points
50 gv kills 50 points
100 gv kills 100 points
other may only have two levels....
drop the troop to win the war, 100 points
drop the troop to win the war again 250 points.
Once you get to the end of the levels you can no longer add more points doing that action.
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There are only so many levels to each achievement.
In the case of the "kill a GV by plane", and Im only guessing here at the levels as I only have one star....
The actual levels are like this:
10 GV - 10 pts
100 GV - 20 pts
250 GV - 30 pts
500 GV - 50 pts
1000 GV - 100 pts.
At 666 killed vehicles (after 20 months since I reset my achievements) it's still quite a long way to go for me...
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The actual levels are like this:
10 GV - 10 pts
100 GV - 20 pts
250 GV - 30 pts
500 GV - 50 pts
1000 GV - 100 pts.
At 666 killed vehicles (after 20 months since I reset my achievements) it's still quite a long way to go for me...
I was close <cough><cough> :P
I think I almost have the second level done on that one.
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I mostly meant all the achievements under the bomber category, I'm working on that right now (don't judge the 190 porking barracks and fuel depots too harshly), but there are some achievements for bombing GVs. I think I'm up to ~200 GVs bombed, but that's without focusing on the achievement.
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... I reset my achievements....
How do you do that?
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How do you do that?
By cancelling your account and creating a new one