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Title: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Changeup on March 15, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
Great film of the dumbest aviation idea ever...notice in the last shootdown of Mistel's, there is a guy hanging off the tailwheel of the 111 carrying it.  Just bizarre.

https://youtu.be/89ZAONQVF5I
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Guppy35 on March 15, 2015, 08:25:12 PM
Nice find.  I've seen a still of that where the guy is below the tail.  I remember the caption stating he was bailing out.  But it sure didn't look like he had a chute and he was awfully low to open it anyway.  Considering those things below the fighter were packed with explosives I'd want out of the 190 in a hurry before it blew up.  Interesting that the one Ju88 had been detached.  I imagine there was no one actually flying it at that point.
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: JimmyC on March 15, 2015, 08:52:17 PM
Vulch  fest!!
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Guppy35 on March 15, 2015, 09:24:56 PM
Here's the still from that film that I remembered seeing.  Mustang pilot Bernard Howes of the 55th FG shot this one down.   It sure didn't look like the pilot had a chute and if so it still looks too low to open.  I imagine the choice of burning to death in that cockpit on fire vs falling were his only options.  Not a cartoon game in that case...

As an aside Howes was an Ace with five kills.  He was taken POW when he deliberately landed to try and rescue a buddy.  As they tried to take off they struck a ditch and crashed.  Needless to say they were a long way from home.


(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/602%20Squadron/Mistel_zps6ebexjtz.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Changeup on March 15, 2015, 09:48:06 PM
Those looked like 111s to me but wow anyway.  It appears in the film that they were over some water.  Maybe he got lucky, lol
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Guppy35 on March 15, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
I think it's snow on the ground we're seeing.
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Changeup on March 15, 2015, 10:19:02 PM
I think it's snow on the ground we're seeing.

Oh.  Hope it's deeeeeeep...lmao
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Phoenix3107 on March 15, 2015, 10:30:51 PM
Here's the still from that film that I remembered seeing.  Mustang pilot Bernard Howes of the 55th FG shot this one down.   It sure didn't look like the pilot had a chute and if so it still looks too low to open.  I imagine the choice of burning to death in that cockpit on fire vs falling were his only options.  Not a cartoon game in that case...

As an aside Howes was an Ace with five kills.  He was taken POW when he deliberately landed to try and rescue a buddy.  As they tried to take off they struck a ditch and crashed.  Needless to say they were a long way from home.


(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/602%20Squadron/Mistel_zps6ebexjtz.jpg)

I can't say that he had a soft landing, but it beats a plane ready to blow up by a gunblazing 51.
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Scherf on March 16, 2015, 01:48:05 AM
Poor fellow - desperate measures.
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: mbailey on March 16, 2015, 05:15:37 AM
Poor fellow - desperate measures.

Agreed
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: JOACH1M on March 16, 2015, 07:58:17 AM
I'm not to convinced that he was alive after he bailed. Will the amount of gunfire he was probably killed upon bailing.


The price of war unfortunately.  :salute
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Charge on March 16, 2015, 08:32:55 AM
I'd say the shooter of that loose Ju88 Mistel realized at some point what would happen if he hit the bomber in a wrong place at that close range.  :eek:

-C+
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: eagl on March 16, 2015, 10:25:50 AM
Look at the cockpit area of the 190 on the one with the guy hanging from the tailwheel.  Looks like the chute opened in the cockpit, and the pilot just climbed out and was probably hoping to fly over a drop into a river or lake or something.
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: MiloMorai on March 16, 2015, 10:34:45 AM
Those Ju88s didn't have the nose of the explosive filled Ju88s.

(http://api.ning.com/files/1DOHLLp5C2HtTgIcRP15u3okgpcjrZxCJd15FfUtONKrfx3VyVdXpJPlNulnb0F7jv0PKUt2gZkPcKXfMArifAZD9zgrYrqg/Ju88_mistel.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Flench on March 16, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
Nice find , poor dude .
Title: Re: Gun Camera Footage of 1945 Mistels being shot down...while still piggybacked
Post by: Charge on March 16, 2015, 08:53:28 PM
"Those Ju88s didn't have the nose of the explosive filled Ju88s."

I'd say they are either trainers intercepted above Germany or not all the Mistels had a refined warhead but were just lobbed full of explosives equipped with a suitable fuse and flown to the target which did not need such armor piercing capability.

-C+