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Title: Heading Holding
Post by: earl1937 on April 13, 2015, 05:58:37 AM
 :airplane:  for this question, lets assume you do not have a attitude gyo, it is inop for some reason!

Which shows the aircraft is no longer flying straight and level? The directional gyo or the turn and bank indicator?
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: Mister Fork on April 13, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
Turn and bank would be a better indicator if you're no longer flying level...but not exactly...
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: morfiend on April 13, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
Turn and bank would be a better indicator if you're no longer flying level...but not exactly...


  Yes I believe JFKjr found this out the hard way!  With only a VFR rating when he lost visual,when his instruments told him 1 thing his sense of balance told him otherwise!

   :salute
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: earl1937 on April 13, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
Turn and bank would be a better indicator if you're no longer flying level...but not exactly...
:airplane: The only function of the vertical needle on the turn and bank is to tell you if the wings are level, but will tell you nothing about heading.
You can keep the needle vertical in the middle, yet be making a heading change.
'The correct answer is the heading indicator, or directional gyo.
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: Oldman731 on April 13, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Yes I believe JFKjr found this out the hard way!  With only a VFR rating when he lost visual,when his instruments told him 1 thing his sense of balance told him otherwise!


His accident report:  http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001212X19354&ntsbno=NYC99MA178&akey=1

And an AOPA film which describes, pretty much to a T, what happened.  I consider this a must-see video.  Having seen it, I believe it may have saved my life (and my sons' as well):

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=%7BCCA30EA1-A94D-4E45-ABCD-3AD4074403E0%7D

- oldman
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: morfiend on April 14, 2015, 12:48:27 AM

His accident report:  http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001212X19354&ntsbno=NYC99MA178&akey=1

And an AOPA film which describes, pretty much to a T, what happened.  I consider this a must-see video.  Having seen it, I believe it may have saved my life (and my sons' as well):

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=%7BCCA30EA1-A94D-4E45-ABCD-3AD4074403E0%7D

- oldman


  I watched a report on TV about this!  What I found interesting was the fact that JFK jr had about 10 different CFI's in his log book and this was considered a factor in things,also he turned down a CFI who was willing to be the rightseater.   Maybe if he had a co-pilot he would have gotten the radio tuned to the proper weather freq.and this could have been prevented.

 1 thing that struck me was when the CFI said he always tells new pilots"give yourself a way out" as in be prepared to buy an airline ticket!


    :salute
Title: Re: Heading Holding
Post by: Zimme83 on April 14, 2015, 09:15:25 AM

His accident report:  http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001212X19354&ntsbno=NYC99MA178&akey=1

And an AOPA film which describes, pretty much to a T, what happened.  I consider this a must-see video.  Having seen it, I believe it may have saved my life (and my sons' as well):

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=%7BCCA30EA1-A94D-4E45-ABCD-3AD4074403E0%7D

- oldman

Been there... Almost.. Ended up in IMC at 500 AGL in a c150, that is scary as hell...