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Title: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 22, 2015, 06:30:34 PM
I just wanted to see 200th_Taro's pure bare metal finish in Aces High's lighting.  Turns out the 56th Sentai had a suitable subject:

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-img.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-img2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-img3.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-img4.jpg)

This one is just a rough cut, but I can work it up and submit if people want it. The 56th's tail emblem requires some finessing to get around the texture map's problem areas, but its workable.   This is a lot of skins, but I don't feel like I'm taking opportunity away from anybody; the Ki.61 hasn't seen any skins submitted for it in ages. Plus, the model could be updated at any time so all these skins will disappear at that time anyway.  But, between now and then, could there be a scenario or AvA setup where they would be useful??




Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: mbailey on April 22, 2015, 06:52:10 PM
Never enough KI skins.......they all look amazing sir  :aok
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Volron on April 22, 2015, 07:19:52 PM
Keep going until they are all filled up. :)
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Devil 505 on April 22, 2015, 08:44:28 PM
go nuts man, these are great.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: lyric1 on April 22, 2015, 09:16:47 PM
Plenty of slots to fill & it has not been done after all these years. :rock
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Greebo on April 23, 2015, 03:56:02 AM
Go for it Oboe, they all look great.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 23, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
Here's Seiichi Suzuki's Ki.61 from the 244th Sentai, 3rd Chutai:

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-1.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-3.jpg)

I need reference images and profiles for this one, if anyone can find something, please post here or PM me. Thanks!
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Devil 505 on April 24, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
I cant help with the references, but that is slick.  :rock
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: FTJR on April 24, 2015, 12:41:40 AM
Nice one Oboe,  also cannot help you with the references, but can I ask how long it took for the clouds to generate on your map?
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 24, 2015, 06:08:55 AM
I think I saw small clouds relatively early, but had to search around different bases before I found them.  I left the game running and they generated into pretty big cloud systems.

Haven't tried flying directly into the clouds, but they sure add realism in the background I think...
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: FTJR on April 24, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Thanks, I left mine running for an hour and saw nothing... Cheers
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 24, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
Were you using same file data as Greebo posted?   I did have to go to a few different bases before I found them, but I'd think after an hour it would've been sufficient time...
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: FTJR on April 24, 2015, 10:52:35 AM
Yes indeed. Then I put it into grinder as he described. I probably didn't get to the correct base.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Greebo on April 24, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
The problem with using my CraterMA weather file for Grinder is that most of the clouds appear over open ocean on that terrain. You will find clouds over the central islands from a few minutes after the terrain loads and some near field A84 within 10-15 minutes.

When I get some time I'll make a more useful offline weather file and post it here.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 24, 2015, 12:39:46 PM
I found clouds at A9 pretty quickly I think...
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: lyric1 on April 24, 2015, 03:08:00 PM
Here's Seiichi Suzuki's Ki.61 from the 244th Sentai, 3rd Chutai:

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-1.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244thSentai-3rdChutai-Suzuki-3.jpg)

I need reference images and profiles for this one, if anyone can find something, please post here or PM me. Thanks!

Only photo I have found referencing Suzuki's Ki-61 so far looks nothing like the skin. Clearly another Ki-61 he flew.

http://www.modelaces.com/148_scale_model/ki_61_tony.php

I don't have this book but the portion highlighted verifies the markings & the style of them in the drawing.

https://books.google.com/books?id=t0rqP3NhH6EC&pg=PA62&lpg=PA62&dq=Seiichi+Suzuki+Ki.61&source=bl&ots=gwCVeJvtt3&sig=ugKwlbUPvyLDzS35oHRjpIR6A8Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=66E6Ve_PBM_IsQSr0ICwDA&ved=0CEcQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Seiichi%20Suzuki%20Ki.61&f=false
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 24, 2015, 04:25:19 PM
Thanks Lyric, I was able to find a decal sheet that was a very good representation of the skin, so used that as my reference documentation.  Hope that is enough.  Color images of Ki.61s are pretty rare.

Now, how about this one?  Think this will have to be my last.   I had to create a fictional aircraft ("00") because of the mirroring of the fuselage's R and L sides.  Only 00, 11, and 88 read same forward and backward.  Its based on 55th Sentai "03".   I know I've seen images of the "03"  ("06" is similar, but fully natural metal).

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-1.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-3.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: ink on April 24, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Thanks Lyric, I was able to find a decal sheet that was a very good representation of the skin, so used that as my reference documentation.  Hope that is enough.  Color images of Ki.61s are pretty rare.

Now, how about this one?  Think this will have to be my last.   I had to create a fictional aircraft ("00") because of the mirroring of the fuselage's R and L sides.  Only 00, 11, and 88 read same forward and backward.  Its based on 55th Sentai "03".   I know I've seen images of the "03"  ("06" is similar, but fully natural metal).

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-1.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-3.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-56th-Sentai-00-4.jpg)


very nice :aok
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on April 27, 2015, 10:16:37 PM
I did a couple more of 200th_Taro's Ki.61 skins, both from the 2nd Chutai of 244th Sentai, and I think they adapted to AH pretty nicely.  There is some great variation in color scheme compared to the other 2nd Chutai skin - both of these are bare metal:

First is one of the aircraft flown by the Sentai's commander - Capt Teruhiko Kobayashi, Red 24:

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Capt-Kobayashi.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Capt-Kobayashi_2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Capt-Kobayashi_4.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Capt-Kobayashi_3.jpg)

The second is Yellow 29, supposedly flown by 2nd Lt Sasaki.  I can't find any profiles on this one, but I think its fairly representative of the unit's more generic bare metal skins in late '45 or very early '45 - before they applied that green mottled camouflage:

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Lt-Sasaki_2.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Lt-Sasaki.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Lt-Sasaki_3.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Ki.61-244th-Sentai-2nd-Chutai-Lt-Sasaki_4.jpg)

I hope all these skins can make it in the next release.  I understand there is supposed to be one in early May (the 1st?), but none of the skins I've submitted over the past few weeks is listed with a review start date.   I've never used this webpage submit for skins before - I stopped skinning before this was implemented.  It seemed to work OK, though.

Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Drano on April 28, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
Gotta admit the Tonys have some of the coolest schemes. Great job, Oboe.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Blade on May 04, 2015, 09:23:12 AM
Cool!! :salute
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on May 04, 2015, 09:37:51 AM
All of these skins were rejected.  I am sorry.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: ink on May 04, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
All of these skins were rejected.  I am sorry.

that sux...

 hopefully it will be an easy fix.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on May 04, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Not gonna fix them.   Look closely at the engine exhaust manifold in the screenshots above and tell me what's wrong with it.   

Read through my thread on pixelation, and look at differences between the current skin and the submitted skin's engine manifold, or internal flap textures.  If those are rejectable differences, I have to admit, that I don't have the ability to see them.   

I can't skin any more - I can't allow myself to put that much time and effort into skins and then have them all rejected on a difference in a detail I can't even see.  I look at those screenshots and all I see are gorgeous, beautiful skins (not my original work, so its not conceit for me to say that).   I see skins that are SO much more detailed and weathered than any of the in-game Ki.61s.    I definitely cannot see skins that aren't high enough quality for the game.   

I just don't think I can trust my judgment anymore.

<S> brother


Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: ink on May 04, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
Not gonna fix them.   Look closely at the engine exhaust manifold in the screenshots above and tell me what's wrong with it.   

Read through my thread on pixelation, and look at differences between the current skin and the submitted skin's engine manifold, or internal flap textures.  If those are rejectable differences, I have to admit, that I don't have the ability to see them.   

I can't skin any more - I can't allow myself to put that much time and effort into skins and then have them all rejected on a difference in a detail I can't even see.  I look at those screenshots and all I see are gorgeous, beautiful skins (not my original work, so its not conceit for me to say that).   I see skins that are SO much more detailed and weathered than any of the in-game Ki.61s.    I definitely cannot see skins that aren't high enough quality for the game.   

I just don't think I can trust my judgment anymore.

<S> brother

I did read through it...I am as puzzled as you.
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Drano on May 04, 2015, 04:38:16 PM
Oboe I really love that you and the other skinners have taken the time to produce all these beautiful skins but I wonder if a lot of this is time wasted given the new version, while not imminent, is in development. What if they don't transfer and all need to be redone anyway? Didn't that happen with the last graphics bump the game had?

I appreciate the effort <S>.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: oboe on May 04, 2015, 04:57:42 PM
Oboe I really love that you and the other skinners have taken the time to produce all these beautiful skins but I wonder if a lot of this is time wasted given the new version, while not imminent, is in development. What if they don't transfer and all need to be redone anyway? Didn't that happen with the last graphics bump the game had?

I appreciate the effort <S>.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Thank you, Drano.  I enjoyed it.  Felt like I was doing something for the community.

It seems reasonable to assume that all the planes and vehicles will transfer to the new graphics engine OK.   

What will make the Ki.61 skins obsolete is whenever HTC rolls out the new Ki.61 model.  There are a dozen or so planes left to update, and the Ki.61 is one.  So at some point, hopefully in the not-too-distant future, the new Ki.61 model will be developed and released, and all Ki.61 skins will be obsolete.  Until then we could've had these 10 beauties to fly in.

Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Drano on May 04, 2015, 05:01:22 PM


Until then we could've had these 10 beauties to fly in.

Well somebody would! I'd rather shoot at em. Sayin! hehe



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Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: Mitsu on June 08, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
Awesome skins...<S> oboe.

I really want to see your Ki-61 skins in Aces High 3!
Title: Re: Have you guys had enough Ki.61s?
Post by: JVboob on June 09, 2015, 01:43:16 AM
I WANT BARE TONYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are beautimus!!!!!  :rock