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Title: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Bear69 on May 20, 2015, 10:16:52 AM
This ENY from tower sitters is getting out of hand.  PLEASE HTC do something about logging off inactive players sitting in the tower more than 30 minutes.  THE ENY is killing us daily.

Today 38 on 17 in flight.. most of the morning for bish.  29 eny

Bear69
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: HawkerMKII on May 20, 2015, 10:21:00 AM
This IS getting bad, the other day I saw 7 players sitting in the tower for several hours, I would guess waiting for the war to be won :bhead
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: 68ZooM on May 20, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
After 20 to 30 minutes of inactivity the player should automatically be booted.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Lusche on May 20, 2015, 10:57:34 AM
After 20 to 30 minutes of inactivity the player should automatically be booted.

That's so easy to avoid...
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Phoenix3107 on May 20, 2015, 11:04:45 AM
After 20 to 30 minutes of inactivity the player should automatically be booted.

Make that down to 5 minutes max afk in the tower, automatically spawn in the hangar or discoed from game session until relog, they'll think twice :D
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: 100Coogn on May 20, 2015, 11:14:34 AM
Remove inactive players from the calculation completely.
Only active players will then determine ENY.

Coogan
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: The Fugitive on May 20, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
Remove inactive players from the calculation completely.
Only active players will then determine ENY.

Coogan

then they will adjust ENY by having people wait in the tower until it is favorable and then launch.

I don't know what the fix is, but while the numbers are low something has got to be done.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Bruv119 on May 20, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
last time I checked ENY didn't kill anyone. 

Plenty of 30+ rides that can get the job done if you choose to be on the side with a vast number advantage. 

What has been annoying off hours recently is the guy who has 3 accounts, one for each team, then starts talking to himself on 200.   How can you plan a base take with someone listening and plotting your every move aswell as mouseover ID's and dot commands that give you exact intel!  It is barmy!
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Lusche on May 20, 2015, 11:58:17 AM
then they will adjust ENY by having people wait in the tower until it is favorable and then launch.

Which is what's largely already happening. Very often there's not ENY because of the tower sitters, but players start to sit in the tower because of ENY kicking in.

Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Wiley on May 20, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
then they will adjust ENY by having people wait in the tower until it is favorable and then launch.

I don't know what the fix is, but while the numbers are low something has got to be done.

How does that work, exactly?  Nothing happens simultaneously on a computer.  Everybody would get launched in an order.  So the first guy gets his ENY bonus, then the next guy launches with the ENY recalculated counting the guy in front of him, then the third guy with the ENY recalculated including the two guys in front of him, and so on.  Where would the advantage be?

Wiley.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Bizman on May 20, 2015, 12:52:00 PM
I'm not worried about people sitting in the tower. I've done it sometimes myself, preferring to chat with someone instead of getting killed while typing.

But then again I've read that some people won't log out at all. Instead of sitting in the tower they're sitting at their office or school desks. I suppose an hour or so of total inactivity both in flight and on the radio would indicate an afk for the day player, justifying a kick.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: ink on May 20, 2015, 01:49:42 PM
last time I checked ENY didn't kill anyone. 

Plenty of 30+ rides that can get the job done if you choose to be on the side with a vast number advantage. 

What has been annoying off hours recently is the guy who has 3 accounts, one for each team, then starts talking to himself on 200.   How can you plan a base take with someone listening and plotting your every move aswell as mouseover ID's and dot commands that give you exact intel!  It is barmy!

 :rofl :rofl :rofl


if this is really happening.....I feel bad for that person......




ok not really...... but he is certainly good for some laughs.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: scott66 on May 20, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
Tower sitters are poo  :neener:unless they are eating it going potty
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: caldera on May 20, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
I sometimes sit in the tower, waiting for the enemy to mass an attack.  One player (that one player being me) can't really make much of a difference attacking a base alone, especially without follow up from other friendlies.  And fighting against buildings and ack is a bore.

One player can make a difference on defense.  It's a great feeling to stop a much larger force from taking your base.  :ahand
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: save on May 21, 2015, 03:37:14 AM
I the evening, CET I can understand fighter pilots waiting for a radar-bar to show up so they have something to fight.


Yesterday I flew only one mission looking for trouble, only got enemy auto-ack to shoot at me in a Bf109g6 with gondolas.

This map is huge with a gazillion of fields with large front to enemy only about 100 online, best guess half of them are doing GV work.

After talking to some guys I simply logged (but could have stayed online waiting for some action).


Talked with Pipz who have flown around for 20 minutes also trying to find someone to shoot up.

These big maps has to go out of rotation until we get more players.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 21, 2015, 07:26:14 AM

These big maps has to go out of rotation until we get more players.

I agree. I'd love to see some of the FSO, custom maps, or some other smaller arenas get placed on rotation. It really would make the fights better all around. These huge maps that scatter the players everywhere really have no bearing on the combat part of the game and create boring game play. A smaller arena or even a smaller area of the map to only fight in would compact the players into having to fight. I'm sure the coading part to that is something more difficult than I can imagine. But its just stale when there are tiny red dar bars with maybe one con in each scattered around the Maps instead of one big dar where the majority of people are fighting. If there was only a smaller section of the map to fight in. People could find fights much easier and have a much more fun time fighting agaisnt the opposing team instead of fighting against puff ack, or upping only to not be able to find what ever con is in the sector.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Max on May 21, 2015, 07:35:42 AM
Back to Bear's statement...I really wish Hitech would weigh in on the auto-logout re: inactive players. Surely he's aware of the many frustrated players who are frequently forced into 25+ ENY ac/gv's. C'mon Dale...toss us a bone here.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Zimme83 on May 21, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
I just switch countries, it work most of the time. Or I use one of my mamy shades  :noid. In fact half of all players in game are my shades...   :rofl
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: The Fugitive on May 21, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
Back to Bear's statement...I really wish Hitech would weigh in on the auto-logout re: inactive players. Surely he's aware of the many frustrated players who are frequently forced into 25+ ENY ac/gv's. C'mon Dale...toss us a bone here.

Read here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362537.msg4823819.html#msg4823819

I agree. I'd love to see some of the FSO, custom maps, or some other smaller arenas get placed on rotation. It really would make the fights better all around. These huge maps that scatter the players everywhere really have no bearing on the combat part of the game and create boring game play. A smaller arena or even a smaller area of the map to only fight in would compact the players into having to fight. I'm sure the coading part to that is something more difficult than I can imagine. But its just stale when there are tiny red dar bars with maybe one con in each scattered around the Maps instead of one big dar where the majority of people are fighting. If there was only a smaller section of the map to fight in. People could find fights much easier and have a much more fun time fighting agaisnt the opposing team instead of fighting against puff ack, or upping only to not be able to find what ever con is in the sector.

You also have to take into account that many and I would say "most" would prefer NOT to have any combat and would relish being left alone to drop their bombs or grab a base with out a defense, and so they LOVE these big maps.  Its a sad state, but that is what the majority of players seem to like these days. Very few want to "fight" for anything in the game.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Max on May 21, 2015, 08:46:48 AM
Thanks for posting the link Fugi...I don't recall seeing that before.  :salute
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Triton28 on May 21, 2015, 09:32:41 AM
Just about every multiplayer game I've ever played has a system to kick an inactive player.  You can always work around them, but it at least kicks the knuckleheads who AFK instead of log off when they go to wash their car, cook a 7 course meal, etc.  Off the top of my head, most have it set around 15 minutes of inactivity.   
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: waystin2 on May 21, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Read here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362537.msg4823819.html#msg4823819

You also have to take into account that many and I would say "most" would prefer NOT to have any combat and would relish being left alone to drop their bombs or grab a base with out a defense, and so they LOVE these big maps.  Its a sad state, but that is what the majority of players seem to like these days. Very few want to "fight" for anything in the game.

Thanks Fugitive.  Makes perfect sense what Hitech is saying on the inactive players and ENY.
Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: ink on May 21, 2015, 11:00:33 AM
Read here....

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362537.msg4823819.html#msg4823819

You also have to take into account that many and I would say "most" would prefer NOT to have any combat and would relish being left alone to drop their bombs or grab a base with out a defense, and so they LOVE these big maps.  Its a sad state, but that is what the majority of players seem to like these days. Very few want to "fight" for anything in the game.


I am never one to cry wolf....but damn you are spot on.....











Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: Hetzer7 on May 21, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
i would say many but not most.


I am never one to cry wolf....but damn you are spot on.....












Title: Re: ENY FROM TOWER SITTERS
Post by: The Fugitive on May 21, 2015, 03:00:51 PM
i would say many but not most.

If you have a horde of 40 guys hitting a base MOST of them are not there to fight. Some may get shot done, but again those aren't fights, they are picks and augers.

If you have 20 guys sitting at a spawn point doing nothing but popping the next guy to spawn in they are NOT fighting.

There are many ways to "play the game" in which fighting is NOT involved.

So yes, I believe MOST don't want to fight.


I am never one to cry wolf....but damn you are spot on.....













WOLF! Where???? Is that like when someone like a talking dog yells "Squirrel!"  :devil