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Title: Steam
Post by: Interceptor on June 04, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
"Warbirds" :noid  just showed up on Steam, might be a good idea to get there too : Millions of potential players-customers there, HTC...! :aok


Do u have a plan already, or maybe u are waiting for Aces High3 version coming? :joystick:


Plz tell us !!!!! :pray
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 04, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
Will the potential numbers it might bring be worth the cost on going on Steam?  Steam takes 30% of all financial transactions, so HTC would have to pay 30% to Valve on every subscription for the Steam version of AH every month.  If the new AH update includes micro-transactions, Steam will take 30% off each of those purchases as well.

Also, as a lot of developers of online games have found out, Steam isn't the Promised Land.

ack-ack

Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Wizz on June 05, 2015, 01:55:34 AM
Will the potential numbers it might bring be worth the cost on going on Steam?  Steam takes 30% of all financial transactions, so HTC would have to pay 30% to Valve on every subscription for the Steam version of AH every month.  If the new AH update includes micro-transactions, Steam will take 30% off each of those purchases as well.

Also, as a lot of developers of online games have found out, Steam isn't the Promised Land.

ack-ack

steam is not the promised land

Steam is a gold mine of fast cash flow, boosted numbers, and fresh meat  :devil
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 05, 2015, 04:25:36 AM
I think that I would be fine with paying a bit more per month. Especially if it might increase the number of players. I hear several folk talking about the good old days with 600 plus in the arenas. That would be something special for me as I missed those good old days. Maybe not steam but if there is a way, I am game :devil
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 05, 2015, 05:26:43 AM
Steam is a gold mine of fast cash flow, boosted numbers, and fresh meat  :devil

There have been a lot of developers, especially small developers, that have found out the hard way that it's not necessarily true.  Steam is no guarantee of new players or cash, especially if there is nothing in the game that compels the player to stay.

Title: Re: Steam
Post by: wrench on June 05, 2015, 07:18:07 AM
I would just sit back and observe what happens with Warbirds on Steam. And...I agree with what AKAK said.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Butcher on June 05, 2015, 07:59:56 AM
Its been two years since I flown Aces, I've been itching to come back every day, but the current loss of subscribers and no update has me kind of sitting around waiting. Steam would not motivate me to jump back in Aces - I think it would just help generate a few more players - however as AkAk pointed its not the promise land... Aces High has a steep learning curve, it might do more harm then good considering many just want to "point and click" as dayz standalone found out, many flocked to H1Z thinking it was the promise land only to get reamed by cheaters 24/7.

DayZ has the same problem as Aces - were all waiting for the final product, however many wondered off to other games for now as I have. I've always been a fan of Aces, critical in some areas (gameplay) but I think it would fair well on Steam.

I built this computer I am on now mainly because of Aces High; even bought a thrustmaster Warthog which only was used for three months - I think that says more then enough itself.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Copprhed on June 05, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
Steam would pretty much permanently end AH for me. To put it bluntly, Steam is a huge pile of manure.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Ratsy on June 05, 2015, 08:58:40 AM
I would just sit back and observe what happens with Warbirds on Steam. And...I agree with what AKAK said.

Because I haven't looked at Warbirds in over 10 years:

Is Warbirds comparable to AH2?  Or AH3?

 :salute
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: bj229r on June 05, 2015, 09:01:12 AM
AH1
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 05, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
I can't believe warbirds still exists
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Wiley on June 05, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
I can't believe warbirds still exists

When I left, the only reason I could see it still had enough subs to keep going was the S3 (kinda like FSO).  There were (and likely still are) a lot of players that maintain their sub for that, and that alone.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Gman on June 05, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
Heh, what AkAk said.  Read the Warbirds steam forum for some laughs.  It is nothing more than a death rattle attempt by unWild Bill to stave off the inevitable. 
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Butcher on June 05, 2015, 06:07:46 PM
Heh, what AkAk said.  Read the Warbirds steam forum for some laughs.  It is nothing more than a death rattle attempt by unWild Bill to stave off the inevitable.

Holy crap.... I just seen a video posted by someone who bought the game and posted a video of it... the gameplay video posted on Steam looks pretty nice; however the actual in game footage however..... Lets just say I had a hard time figuring out what plane the person was flying until I realized after 1 minute it was probably a P-38...

Its on par with late Aces High 1 graphics.... Oh and for anyone not wanting to bother looking at the comments; wow what a..... bad move by them. They posted the game was single player for one, ALSO they do not list the game as subscription based. I can tell you with the Steam Refund now in effect, anyone who bought the game will likely seek a refund. They don't advertise "30 days free" or its a subscription based; however they do charge you $15 out the door, if you can figure that part out (milking every last dollar I'm guessing).

/I opened DosBox a few days ago to show my wife Aces of the Pacific and she laughed and couldn't figure out how I could distinguish the aircrafts from pixels; Lets just say I had the same problem with the warbirds video.
I would say anyone wanting to complain about graphics do a side by side comparison, but that's their choice to do so.

Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Bizman on June 06, 2015, 02:26:07 AM
Its been two years since I flown Aces, I've been itching to come back every day, but the current loss of subscribers and no update has me kind of sitting around waiting.
You do realize that you're partially responsible of that said loss, don't you? War does not long for one man, but if a thousand people keep procrastinating, we've lost a regiment.   
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Butcher on June 06, 2015, 02:49:21 PM
You do realize that you're partially responsible of that said loss, don't you? War does not long for one man, but if a thousand people keep procrastinating, we've lost a regiment.

I paid an account for over a year without even playing; I know some others have done it here as well, but I don't know many who have done this for other games. I think that would speak volumes to the developer; I could of simply closed my account right when I quit; but I wanted to see the game continue to develop that's why I continued to pay even if i didn't even fly one sortie.

I eventually did come back for a week; but my interest was just gone - running a business, lack of time and my father's passing really took its toll. Perhaps in the future.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Volron on June 06, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
I paid an account for over a year without even playing; I know some others have done it here as well, but I don't know many who have done this for other games. I think that would speak volumes to the developer; I could of simply closed my account right when I quit; but I wanted to see the game continue to develop that's why I continued to pay even if i didn't even fly one sortie.

I eventually did come back for a week; but my interest was just gone - running a business, lack of time and my father's passing really took its toll. Perhaps in the future.

I currently still pay and keep my account active, even though the last time I played was the 2nd Frame for last FSO.  Before then I was in the MA for maybe an hour before 1st Frame.  Going back farther, I couldn't honestly say when I last played, though I would guess at least a month or two.  At this point, aside from FSO (if I remember what time/day it is :o), I don't log in.  I've flown solo bombers long enough, and people willing to do strat runs regularly are non-existent.  Bombers are my thing, not fighters. :)

I'm now waiting on the update, to see how it will change the game.  Things are looking on the up, but I'll wait until release before I get too excited. lol
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Butcher on June 06, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
I currently still pay and keep my account active, even though the last time I played was the 2nd Frame for last FSO. 
I'm now waiting on the update, to see how it will change the game.

Last time we played Diablo 3 was the last time I paid my account - LOL this is how long its been. "I'm now waiting on the update, to see how it will change the game." As am I.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Volron on June 06, 2015, 07:47:31 PM
Last time we played Diablo 3 was the last time I paid my account - LOL this is how long its been. "I'm now waiting on the update, to see how it will change the game." As am I.

Damn, that be a while. :rofl

I don't think going to Steam, at least right now, would be a good idea.  Maybe after the update though?  Still, 30% is a hard sell for a platform that may or may not help, not to mention that 30% get's shaved off from HTC's subscriptions.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: scott66 on June 06, 2015, 09:15:39 PM
I think that I would be fine with paying a bit more per month. Especially if it might increase the number of players. I hear several folk talking about the good old days with 600 plus in the arenas. That would be something special for me as I missed those good old days. Maybe not steam but if there is a way, I am game :devil
I think it used to be the orange arena it would be maxed out at 600 I would literally waiting line kept refreshing until someone would log out then I can get in or go to the DA and fine tune my non existent ACM skills but even the furball  arena would have like 60 or more players in it..don't tell HTC but I would pay double to play!