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Title: Real or fake
Post by: Chris79 on June 18, 2015, 11:08:48 AM
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag120/cjnfl1979/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshlqsj1gm.jpg) (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/cjnfl1979/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshlqsj1gm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Chris79 on June 18, 2015, 11:12:56 AM
Here rests a unknown English Leutantent who fell in air battle? Also is that a Hurricane?
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: PR3D4TOR on June 18, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
Real. Photo by George Rodger. Original is in B/W, must have been colorized. Many of his wartime photos were published in LIFE magazine.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Chris79 on June 18, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
Thank you, the quality seemed high for the time period.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Skuzzy on June 18, 2015, 11:46:55 AM
Thank you, the quality seemed high for the time period.

Ohhhh, I don't know.  Check these original color photographs (http://mashable.com/2014/09/30/russian-revolution-in-color/) taken in the early 1900's.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: PR3D4TOR on June 18, 2015, 12:01:50 PM
Ohhhh, I don't know.  Check these original color photographs (http://mashable.com/2014/09/30/russian-revolution-in-color/) taken in the early 1900's.

Most if not all of them are also colorized monochrome photos.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Skuzzy on June 18, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
Most if not all of them are also colorized monochrome photos.

None of those are colorized. 

Read about the photographer (Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky) and the equipment he used.  Even that article I linked to talks briefly about it.

If you really look at the work, you can see some of the artifacts from the color process he used, but overall those photos are remarkable in their detail and color considering most were taken between 1900 and 1911.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: ImADot on June 18, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
Ohhhh, I don't know.  Check these original color photographs (http://mashable.com/2014/09/30/russian-revolution-in-color/) taken in the early 1900's.

That's amazing. You can tell they are originals, and the process must have taken a minute or two. In several of the pictures you can clearly see where someone or something moved a little between the multiple exposures.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Chris79 on June 18, 2015, 12:42:44 PM
I just wonder who that poor English pilot, seems like a hell of a place for ones final resting place to be.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: PR3D4TOR on June 18, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
Thanks Skuzzy. They're from the 2000 Library of Congress digital scan.

"The Library of Congress undertook a project in 2000 to make digital scans of all the photographic material received from Prokudin-Gorsky's heirs and contracted with the photographer Walter Frankhauser to combine the monochrome negatives into color images.[31] He created 122 color renderings using a method he called digichromatography and commented that each image took him around six to seven hours to align, clean and color-correct.[32] In 2001, the Library of Congress produced an exhibition from these, The Empire That Was Russia: The Prokudin-Gorskii Photographic Record Recreated.[33] The photographs have since been the subject of many other exhibitions in the area where Prokudin-Gorsky took his photos."
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Skuzzy on June 18, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
Thanks Skuzzy. They're from the 2000 Library of Congress digital scan.

"The Library of Congress undertook a project in 2000 to make digital scans of all the photographic material received from Prokudin-Gorsky's heirs and contracted with the photographer Walter Frankhauser to combine the monochrome negatives into color images.[31] He created 122 color renderings using a method he called digichromatography and commented that each image took him around six to seven hours to align, clean and color-correct.[32] In 2001, the Library of Congress produced an exhibition from these, The Empire That Was Russia: The Prokudin-Gorskii Photographic Record Recreated.[33] The photographs have since been the subject of many other exhibitions in the area where Prokudin-Gorsky took his photos."

Yes, I know.  The originals were projected using a light projector.  In order to show them as a photograph they had to recreate the images from the original color glass plate exposures.  Quite amazing.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: Chris79 on June 18, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
It seems as though the plane in question is a South African Martin Maryland bomber. The pilot bailed the rest of the crew perished. The grave in question is most likely 2nd LT Charles Cornack Gordon.
Title: Re: Real or fake
Post by: PR3D4TOR on June 18, 2015, 01:01:28 PM
Yes, I know.  The originals were projected using a light projector.  In order to show them as a photograph they had to recreate the images from the original color glass plate exposures.  Quite amazing.

Indeed. A time machine.