General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 49Dallas on June 18, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Title: Define rule seven
Post by: 49Dallas on June 18, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
I would like to hear from Hitech or if he's ever posted on this what "cheating" defined as?
Is cheating simply breaking the game? Eg: Hacking the game to allow for air spawns or make your plane lighter and not burn any(or like a .25x) fuel?
Is cheating killing your shade for perks?
Is cheating switching sides to find a CV?
Is cheating switching sides to turn a CV for whatever purpose? Hide it far from the front lines in the middle of the night on purpose? Or turn it so your friend can bomb it at an optimal heading, or keeping it on a heading with your rank to ensure it's destroyed?
Is cheating switching sides to spy? Eg: Find a CV, watch for raids/missions, sit on someones vox?
Please, Very clearly define cheating. Can cheating be one thing today and not cheating tomorrow?
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: ink on June 18, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
looks like someone has a issue with side switchers. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: BowHTR on June 18, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
You would prolly be better off calling or emailing them.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: 49Dallas on June 18, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
looks like someone has a issue with side switchers. :rolleyes:
No I dont think thats it... Ive been switching lately between Rooks and Knights. Its a game :x
Meow
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: hitech on June 18, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Dallas if you have a specific allegation, email us with film.
I have no desire to try give a detailed definition, when no mater how much I would try,there would be almost as many "but what about this..." as when I started.
This question reminds me of a book title, Every thing I need to know i learned in kindergarten
HiTech
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: APDrone on June 18, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
Dallas if you have a specific allegation, email us with film.
I have no desire to try give a detailed definition, when no mater how much I would try,there would be almost as many "but what about this..." as when I started.
This question reminds me of a book title, Every thing I need to know i learned in kindergarten
HiTech
Thank you for the quick response. Is anything in the OP cheating? I don't want to go into what if but those are basic things that I feel need to be answered.
Considering the fact that ENY was introduced to encourage side switching, I highly doubt that it would be considered cheating.
The only purpose to finely define what cheating is, is so one can then run right up to that limit and claim " but you said that wasn't cheating!"
I wouldn't say it's cheating but could argue it as cheating. I see your point with defining cheating and raise you with a yes/no to the op? What I posted in the OP seems like it could be cheating.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Wizz on June 18, 2015, 02:29:27 PM
Dallas if you have a specific allegation, email us with film.
I have no desire to try give a detailed definition, when no mater how much I would try,there would be almost as many "but what about this..." as when I started.
This question reminds me of a book title, Every thing I need to know i learned in kindergarten
Thank you for the quick response. Is anything in the OP cheating? I don't want to go into what if but those are basic things that I feel need to be answered.
I have no specific allegation.
If I answered the specifics of your post, more would follow and we would be right back to my original statement of what about this , and what about that...
HiTech
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: 49Dallas on June 18, 2015, 02:32:46 PM
If I answered the specifics of your post, more would follow and we would be right back to my original statement of what about this , and what about that...
HiTech
So if I pay $15 a month for a shade I can kill him to farm perks? Wonderful.
Pay to win, Yay!
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Bizman on June 18, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
So if I pay $15 a month for a shade I can kill him to farm perks? Wonderful.
Pay to win, Yay!
Sounds like you have a specific allegation to make. Gather the evidence and email it to HTC.
Pay to win? Hardly. More like "desperate to fly a perk plane, which will get shot down quickly due to lack of the skills to earn it through normal gameplay". And what do you win, exactly? Your name in lights? Whoopty-do.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Zoney on June 18, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
I have often found that it takes more effort to be miserable than to be happy.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: waystin2 on June 18, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: SPKmes on June 18, 2015, 03:04:55 PM
1) killing shades for perks...not cheating...2) using said shade to disrupt normal game play... cheating.. 3) using said shade to track, hunt and grief another ... just plain sad.... <--- also goes with number 1
Just my opinion
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Delirium on June 18, 2015, 03:07:29 PM
So if I pay $15 a month for a shade I can kill him to farm perks? Wonderful.
Pay to win, Yay!
The rest of us don't bothering paying the $15 to farm perks. Instead we look for the 49th squadron in the air. :devil
Jokes aside, many people have tried (unsuccessfully) to corner HTC and the best anyone has any gotten was 'Don't be a d***'. Let it go and e-mail HTC the complaint instead.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 18, 2015, 03:08:14 PM
So if I pay $15 a month for a shade I can kill him to farm perks? Wonderful.
Pay to win, Yay!
It would be extremely easy to notice you killing one person over and over again...
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Naughty on June 18, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
if it's an action that makes you wonder if it's cheating before you do it, it's probably cheating.
If you cant play a the game the way it's meant to be played, why even bother. Nobody cares how high your score is, how many perks you have. how many kills you get.
Some of the most respected players in this game usually have low scores. but hey are respected because over and over they show their skill and honor. Your reputation cant be gained by gaming the game, and in the end that is all you really have in this game.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: caldera on June 18, 2015, 03:42:13 PM
So if I pay $15 a month for a shade I can kill him to farm perks? Wonderful.
Pay to win, Yay!
You are showing all the classic signs of a player who has forgotten this is a game and believes that this is deadly serious.
My suggestion is to step away from the keyboard for a while and regain your perspective. Your worrying about the possibility that someone might be cheating is just as sad and pathetic as any player that took the game so serious they felt the need to cheat.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: JVboob on June 19, 2015, 02:56:12 AM
See Rule #8
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Threeup on June 19, 2015, 02:56:29 AM
You are showing all the classic signs of a player who has forgotten this is a game and believes that this is deadly serious.
My suggestion is to step away from the keyboard for a while and regain your perspective. Your worrying about the possibility that someone might be cheating is just as sad and pathetic as any player that took the game so serious they felt the need to cheat.
How good is that? Print it out, laminate it and stick it on the side of your monitor. That should solve your problem. And I'm serious. Well put.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: JVboob on June 19, 2015, 03:02:17 AM
You are showing all the classic signs of a player who has forgotten this is a game and believes that this is deadly serious.
My suggestion is to step away from the keyboard for a while and regain your perspective. Your worrying about the possibility that someone might be cheating is just as sad and pathetic as any player that took the game so serious they felt the need to cheat.
agreed with the first bit and somewhat the second bit. Im not so much worried about it to a point of aggitation just its annoying lol but it doesnt affect my fun factor :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: neener neener boo boo cybro
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: scott66 on June 19, 2015, 03:08:27 AM
agreed with the first bit and somewhat the second bit. Im not so much worried about it to a point of aggitation just its annoying lol but it doesnt affect my fun factor :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: neener neener boo boo cybro
well, to be honest, you guys were being dicks for a while to a large proportion of the player base and didnt give a damn because you played within the game parameters. now you complain because a single player is being a dick to you while playing within the game parameters. oh the irony. :ahand
semp
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Meatwad on June 19, 2015, 07:32:45 AM
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Latrobe on June 19, 2015, 08:04:02 AM
Cheating is:
-Using flaps on your Jug to out turn your opponents Spit16 -Using the vertical in a 109 -Firing your guns -Flying low so your opponent at 30K dives straight into the ground -Using your elevators -Using ACM
Did I miss anything? :D
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Scca on June 19, 2015, 09:49:37 AM
As Potter Stewart said, "I know it when I see it"
Play the game Dallas, and quit worrying about stuff like this. When you're old enough to grow some hair, it will all make sense.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: 68ZooM on June 19, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
-Using flaps on your Jug to out turn your opponents Spit16 -Using the vertical in a 109 -Firing your guns -Flying low so your opponent at 30K dives straight into the ground -Using your elevators -Using ACM
Did I miss anything? :D
Yes you missed one thing "engaging in combat" :joystick:
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: The Fugitive on June 19, 2015, 10:32:49 AM
I agree with Dan, but I can see the competition side as well. I'm not a pro tennis player but if a ball is out I'm going to call it. The same goes for the game. My competition is the fight, it is probably why having a guy continually going for the HO bothers me.
If someone works their way around the game I can see where "cheating" can become an issue to some players.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: JunkyII on June 19, 2015, 11:42:42 AM
well, to be honest, you guys were being dicks for a while to a large proportion of the player base and didnt give a damn because you played within the game parameters. now you complain because a single player is being a dick to you while playing within the game parameters. oh the irony. :ahand
semp
:rofl
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Triton28 on June 19, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
There has only been one dangerous perk farming shade in all of AH history, and that was the artist formerly known as Drkhorse. :old:
I once saw him rip the wings off a Jug. :old:
If the shade you speak of isn't named Drkhorse, you have nothing to fear. :cheers:
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: Shrike on June 19, 2015, 05:50:26 PM
-Using flaps on your Jug to out turn your opponents Spit16 -Using the vertical in a 109 -Firing your guns -Flying low so your opponent at 30K dives straight into the ground -Using your elevators -Using ACM
Did I miss anything? :D
- Holding a higher quality of SA
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: catdaddy on June 19, 2015, 06:57:19 PM
wow look at all the "this is just a game" comments. apparently cheating is "ok" to some people because it's "just a game"
it's sad that it all boils down to trying to shame the people who cheat into not doing so, like trying to stop a late night shopping spree in Ferguson by calmly stating "it's a crime to shoplift, you should stop"
ohh and look I didn't post a short graphic, go off topic, hijack a topic or even have one of those snazzy icons. yeah, pretty lame.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: bustr on June 19, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Hitech must be in a very nice mood this week.
7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed.
He allowed the OP past this gate to the BFG9000 ban stick level of a personal public challenge to Hitech.
Why do so many players need to use Hitech to boot them from our community rather than kicking the addiction under their own will power? There will be no appearances on NPR or MSNBC where you get 15 minutes to tell the world that Hitech is the uber meeni of the universe for being mean to you. And most of the community will not remember the name 49Dallas by the next tour.
The subject covered by Rule 7 has never been healthy for groups to opine in length over. It ends up pitting people against each other and eroding customers ability to enjoy the product. Unless this audience no longer can find enjoyment in anything but the negativity and anger that ultimately ensues.
Title: Re: Define rule seven
Post by: hitech on June 19, 2015, 07:38:55 PM
wow look at all the "this is just a game" comments. apparently cheating is "ok" to some people because it's "just a game"
it's sad that it all boils down to trying to shame the people who cheat into not doing so, like trying to stop a late night shopping spree in Ferguson by calmly stating "it's a crime to shoplift, you should stop"
ohh and look I didn't post a short graphic, go off topic, hijack a topic or even have one of those snazzy icons. yeah, pretty lame.
As all ways if you have any concerns about any player please email us your concerns and evidence on any specific instance. We look into ALL accusations.
But these discussions are over on this bbs. HiTech