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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Phoenix3107 on June 18, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
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Out of all the fighter aircraft in the current game, which one do you consider the best in turnfights, and blazer runner in AH?
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Turn fighter is between the Spit 9 and the Nik1. The Ki-84 is pretty good as well.
As for BnZ plane, the Fws are more than a match for most.
boo
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Spit VIII is better than Spit IX, gives a lot more power to work with.
Best pure turn capability is the Ki-43, but you sacrifice firepower and durability for it. A6Ms are good too, other than fragility. At least they pack a punch. FM2 is another good one.
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Hogs.
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Hurricane IIc and Thunderbolt N/M.
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Earlier posts right on. I'll add...
BnZ = F6. Great nose over view. 6x50 cals. Dives great. It may be the best. Why? It can out turn most other dedicated BnZ planes. You cant run away in it when things get tough so those hypnotized by score dont tend to use it.
Turn = A6m3 great option. Good roll, viz, climb. Also the BF-109 f4. It does everything right.
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* Ki-61 guns, dive and the nose over view are so good it is also crazily effective in a BnZ.
* I find the F4f with 6x50 cals very efficient in snapshots. Not mosts first choice for BnZ for sure!
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La7 or 4-hog. They are quite simmilar.
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Earlier posts right on. I'll add...
BnZ = F6. Great nose over view. 6x50 cals. Dives great. It may be the best. Why? It can out turn most other dedicated BnZ planes. You cant run away in it when things get tough so those hypnotized by score dont tend to use it.
Turn = A6m3 great option. Good roll, viz, climb. Also the BF-109 f4. It does everything right.
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* Ki-61 guns, dive and the nose over view are so good it is also crazily effective in a BnZ.
* I find the F4f with 6x50 cals very efficient in snapshots. Not mosts first choice for BnZ for sure!
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*Hint* view over the nose isn't what makes a plane good at BnZ.
ack-ack
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*Hint* view over the nose isn't what makes a plane good at BnZ.
I agree. It is just one facet of the equation. Some would say a significant factor is dive speed. I have some statistics on that here (http://www.michael-elliott.com/wikis/ww2planes/index.php?n=Site.DivePerformance)
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Fm2 and Brewster prob best turn fighters, Ki-43 and A6m2 turns tighter but cannot dive and have problem in turning at higher speed. Brewster roll and turn better but Fm2 has a lot more ammo amd better view over the nose, making deflection shots easier.
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Ki43 hands down is the best true turn fighter, but as said you really need to take advantage of the elusive nature of the plane as most any hit will finish you. Gunnery isn't as bad as what you would think, I had/have no trouble killing targets with it, you just need to hold a little longer -3 or 4 kill sorties were very normal for most of the dedicated Ki43 pilots, or better.
BNZ, too many to chose from IMO, there are at least 5 that come to mind which are very good at it, K4, F4U4, P51, P47, 190D, and others. Not as easy to determine an outright winner in BNZ IMO.
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ki-43 can be deadly in the right hands but unlike Brewster and FM2 u cannot catch faster plane using a high speed dive. U cannot build up E by gaining alt. Most LW rides fly faster in level flight than the Ki-43 can handle in a dive.
2x .50:s are not too bad if u can aim and fire from close range, 4x .50 is plenty for a2a
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I'd have to agree Ki-43 is the best turny turny bird that thing can do backflips inside others turns.
For non-perked bnz I'd say P51D or 190D. The easier guns for outright kills in one pass.
Temp and F4U4 both awesome.
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Well, if perked rides are in play then the 262 beats all in B&Z. And I wouldn't be surprised if the 163 is the best turner. It's a glider after all.
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Best turner plane is the ki43
The a6ms are right next door
best BnZ plane is the Temp
The 190D and 152 are right next door.
These are to the extreme.
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It may not be the best but the FM2 is an underrated turn fighter.
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best TF is the a6m3 best BNZ is the p39 and its mighty 37mm gun
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Spit, KI84, 109, N1k, La7, F4u, P38, F6f.....these are not BNZ/turnfighting only birds...they can do everything pretty good...some can do other things really well (109 in the vert, spit in a sustain turn, hog in rolling scissors)
A6M5B...best turn fighter in game IMO...followed by Brewster. (Still looking for someone to 1v1 me Brew vs Zeak...something fishy to me about brew still :) )
Best BNZ has to be determined based off alt of the fight. An LA7 can't BNZ a 10K plane from 20K...because it's terrible up there bUT below 10K...not much can keep up. Generally at all alts...the P51 and 190 D9 are the easy choices for BNZ...depends if your a 50 call or cannon kind of guy.
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Spit, KI84, 109, N1k, La7, F4u, P38, F6f.....these are not BNZ/turnfighting only birds...they can do everything pretty good...some can do other things really well (109 in the vert, spit in a sustain turn, hog in rolling scissors)
A6M5B...best turn fighter in game IMO...followed by Brewster. (Still looking for someone to 1v1 me Brew vs Zeak...something fishy to me about brew still :) )
Best BNZ has to be determined based off alt of the fight. An LA7 can't BNZ a 10K plane from 20K...because it's terrible up there bUT below 10K...not much can keep up. Generally at all alts...the P51 and 190 D9 are the easy choices for BNZ...depends if your a 50 call or cannon kind of guy.
left out 38 in the vert :) hangs on its prop like a K4 just doesnt do the torque flip.
BnZ best IMO is the 152 dora typh/temp 51 and jugg except the D11 its more turny
TnB brew hurrie fm2 zeke and ki43
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For pure turn fighting EW planes dominate; A6M2, Bf-109E4, C.202, F4F-4, Ki-61, Sptifire Mk I. I might have missed a few.
For pure B'n'Z the FW-190 series in general and the D9 in particular win over the P-51D due to control responsiveness at extreme speeds (600 mph).
The fact is that most fights transition between these into and through middle ground opening the field to A's, B's, C's, F's, P's, Spits and others of all shapes and flavors.
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Add from a cv the Seafire.
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F6F can do both pruty dern well just its cant run or climb away from much.