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Title: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 19, 2015, 09:03:03 PM
Walk softly and carry a big stick... :airplane:

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/elevator%20elec.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/elevator%20elec.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: ebfd11 on June 19, 2015, 09:15:54 PM
What is that???

LawnDart
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 19, 2015, 09:21:55 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/rudder%20elec.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/rudder%20elec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 19, 2015, 09:23:34 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/aileron%20elec.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/aileron%20elec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: Max on June 19, 2015, 09:37:41 PM
 :headscratch:H
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 19, 2015, 11:11:12 PM
Im guessing a joystick
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: 100Coogn on June 19, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
Rudder pedals?

Coogan
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 20, 2015, 04:57:58 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/fire%20button.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/fire%20button.jpg.html)

primary/secondary fire, transmit/range coms
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 20, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/brakes.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/brakes.jpg.html)

brakes
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 20, 2015, 05:02:20 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/stick%20thru%20peddles.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/stick%20thru%20peddles.jpg.html)

art shot
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: BuckShot on June 20, 2015, 06:20:11 PM
I like the Brit-style stick! Admirable ingenuity.

How does it do?

A video of this beast in action would be great.
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 20, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/throttle_1.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/throttle_1.jpg.html)

throttle, views, flaps, trim, wep.....
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 20, 2015, 10:11:19 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/chair.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/chair.jpg.html)

chair
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: JVboob on June 21, 2015, 01:27:15 AM
How did you manage to build all this?!?!?!?! :joystick:
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: ebfd11 on June 21, 2015, 06:59:30 AM
Chair and a good book ...LOL

LawnDart
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: SilverZ06 on June 21, 2015, 07:09:56 AM
Can we see a not so close up of the entire setup. It looks cool but hard to picture the whole setup.  :salute
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: Bizman on June 21, 2015, 09:39:46 AM
Can we see a not so close up of the entire setup. It looks cool but hard to picture the whole setup.  :salute
Exactly! Although I admire photographers who can make a mundane item look fascinating by showing details from unusual angles and that kind of approach works very well in travel advertising, I think you've shown your photographic skills and teased us enough. Show us the big picture!
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 11:16:49 AM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/stick.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/stick.jpg.html)


stick
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/angle%20all.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/angle%20all.jpg.html)

This is the hard build of my experimental rig that I had been slowly tweaking for years. whereas its not to actual spec in dimensions, its dam close because of the nature of how it works with the body in an enclosed space. All pivot points(knuckles) fit my body. Its now rock solid vs being soft and wishy washy like the tryout rig. makes stick stirring impossible, my pots have zero jitter now.
If I only had that innate ability to fly................

Spitfire control column
P-51 peddle configuration
DIY throttle idea. has the basic throttle movement but the buttons add a puter interface.

Yes as title hints, I use this in game. The stick does not make the pilot! The pilot made the stick. he he
 :joystick:
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: Bizman on June 21, 2015, 11:48:59 AM
Nice!  :salute

As my wife said seeing only the last picture: What's that? A pedal powered harmonium?
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: SilverZ06 on June 21, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
I like it! Great job!  :aok
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
These final shots will put a sense of scale to the rig, me in chair.

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/throttle%20action.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/throttle%20action.jpg.html)
some throttle management
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/in%20the%20seat%20front.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/in%20the%20seat%20front.jpg.html)

front elevation
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 08:26:01 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/right%20turn.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/right%20turn.jpg.html)

right turn
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 21, 2015, 08:27:43 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy138/spyknee/shooter.jpg~original) (http://s785.photobucket.com/user/spyknee/media/shooter.jpg.html)

Killing you My way.

 :salute
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: 100Coogn on June 22, 2015, 07:14:46 AM
Does that feel awkward, having the pivot points so far apart on the stick? 
Maybe they are like that in r/l.

Coogan
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 22, 2015, 10:11:13 AM
Does that feel awkward, having the pivot points so far apart on the stick? 
Maybe they are like that in r/l.

Coogan

Look in a Spitfire cockpit.
 :salute

I built it wanting to understand this configuration myself. I built a gimbal style as well, retired it fast. Now I would never go back, the spit stick is actually better at orienting you to which part of plane you are actuating. The peddle design I use was not meant for the spit control column but the foot movement is very similar so....................

I'm not a real pilot, zero flying experience except FA and AH, so zero actual knowledge. But I grew up in USAF so I like planes...........
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 22, 2015, 10:13:49 AM
How did you manage to build all this?!?!?!?! :joystick:

Effort
 :salute

Anyone with a little American ingenuity can do this. Scavenge what you can, buy what you must. If I had had a shop... I had my bathroom and bedroom. Good thing I'm not married, the ex would have dropped a kid.......................... .he he
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: Gman on June 22, 2015, 12:05:58 PM
Wow, truly impressive considering the materials and obvious ingenious use of scavenged/spare type parts.  Right click - view image for those zoomed in/larger shots.  Very very cool.
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 22, 2015, 12:32:31 PM
Wow, truly impressive considering the materials and obvious ingenious use of scavenged/spare type parts.  Right click - view image for those zoomed in/larger shots.  Very very cool.

 :salute
Being a lifetime builder/installer of stuff, it did help that I did not have to buy tools. Tools being the most expensive part. hardware 2nd materials 3rd.

All the different construction materials were scavenged tho. the ring, the wood, pvc, some wiring. Hardest part was soldering leads to the brain module. its only 1"x1" I did not really have the micro tools but......................now leo bodner has something easier, I will prolly upgrade.
Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: Delirium on June 22, 2015, 01:03:53 PM
I built a gimbal style as well, retired it fast. Now I would never go back

I always thought a gimbal style control would be more effective at the fine motor control necessary for some of the fights in Aces High. Instead of moving the stick 3 inches for full deflection with normal joysticks, having the gimbal on the floor allows for greater movement and decreased sensitivity.

Did you put the gimbal on the floor or on the control column?

Title: Re: Killing you My way
Post by: MADe on June 22, 2015, 07:26:13 PM
I always thought a gimbal style control would be more effective at the fine motor control necessary for some of the fights in Aces High. Instead of moving the stick 3 inches for full deflection with normal joysticks, having the gimbal on the floor allows for greater movement and decreased sensitivity.

Did you put the gimbal on the floor or on the control column?
floor, but it was not a true gymbal. I just made it actuate the pots all at floor level, the movement was the same as a gymbal.
I would get lost easier. Duh no why? With what I know now I could do up a gymbel style ez with pvc but I like the spit control column better.

Actually some might have a problem with the greater movement, especially after using a jet/desktop style stick. You cannot compare the movement with a jet stick vs any ww2 aircraft, the body movement is entirely different. Just flicking the wrist around does not begin to capture the experience.

I went for full scale because I wanted greater movement to help dampen my knee jerk reaction flying. Either style stick helped with that. Its like sitting a drum kit now. I perch on the edge of my seat and use all 4 limbs at once.