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Title: Aces High Ads?
Post by: dogtag380 on June 24, 2015, 09:12:07 PM
Has anyone seen an Aces High Ad lately? I haven't seen one in a long long time. I hope to see some advertising in the near future to boost our low numbers.
:aok
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: kilo2 on June 24, 2015, 09:14:54 PM
I would love to see the update.
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Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on June 24, 2015, 09:45:10 PM
A TV ad brought me to this game. August 2013.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on June 24, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
Probably won't see another media blitz until after the update has been released. Makes little sense to spend the money to make the ads for the current version when the previous media blitz failed.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: bozon on June 25, 2015, 01:21:39 AM
Has anyone seen an Aces High Ad lately? I haven't seen one in a long long time. I hope to see some advertising in the near future to boost our low numbers.
:aok
I have never seen an ad to AH. Anywhere.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: MajWoody on June 25, 2015, 02:55:48 AM
Seriously? Does someone really look at the ads on Youtube? I have both Disconnect and AdBlockPlus to avoid any of them. For the few ones that have to be watched in order to see the actual video I try to look elsewhere and not listen, prepared to press "skip" as soon as it's allowed.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: BuckShot on June 26, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
Hi Bizman, Can you block YouTube ads on a phone? I'm finding conflicting info online, and don't want to corrupt my phone with bad programs.
Thanks, Buck
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Post by: hgtonyvi on June 26, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
Tv Ads from the military channel got me here from 2006.
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Post by: MajWoody on June 26, 2015, 04:04:14 PM
Neither have I.Seriously? Does someone really look at the ads on Youtube? I have both Disconnect and AdBlockPlus to avoid any of them. For the few ones that have to be watched in order to see the actual video I try to look elsewhere and not listen, prepared to press "skip" as soon as it's allowed.
Ummmm.......wasn't implying people should look on youtube to learn about the game. Just if they've never seen any of the tv commercials and were curious. ...kthanksbye
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2015, 04:11:01 PM
Hi Bizman, Can you block YouTube ads on a phone? I'm finding conflicting info online, and don't want to corrupt my phone with bad programs.
Thanks, Buck
your phone needs to be rooted in order for adblock type programs to work. seriously I didnt know that youtube play ads as I have been using adblock for many years.
semp
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Gman on June 26, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
The keep running ads because people keep watching them, believe it or not. I know, I don't understand it either, but many suffer through them still. I have a good friend with a 1 mil+ subscriber channel, and his stats are still well over 1/2 aren't blocking adds.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: The Fugitive on June 26, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
I've been playing since BEFORE there was TV :noid
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Post by: Shrike on June 27, 2015, 09:52:04 AM
I Periscoped a sortie one day but nobody joined :(.
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Post by: BaldEagl on June 27, 2015, 12:10:26 PM
I was sent here by EA. Blame them.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 09:40:35 AM
Constructive criticism on that commercial. Two issues
Trying to pack too much into too small of a timeframe visually for that type of ad. Everything flashes by so fast and so mixed up you cant get a look at one thing and understand whats going on before it flashes to another. a Better way of doing it in the same span of time would have been to almost follow a storyline Example
Mission sized flight of 17's dropping bombs with the iconic puffy ack all around,a 17 gets hit and goes down, fighter escort seen alongside, enemy(various planes) swoops including a 262(people see a 262 and its "wow Cool!") in shooting at the bombers bomber goes down. Fighters go after enemy( prop driven planes). Couple quick turns and shots from the interior cockpit view the enemy fighter goes down. Parachute is seen. Cut away to the GV game. Tank fires another tank blows up. Jabbo comes in and kills tank, Flakpanzer shoots at Jabo. Jabo get torched Cut away to naval a CV with planes lifting off then attacking a CV with tracers all around. CV seen sinking, cruiser firing. In the explosion the AH logo emerges "Are you up for the challenge?"
Point 2. Im from the northeast. Everyone talks fast here compared to the slow motion everyone else seems to speak at anywhere else I go. The speech in the commercial goes by also too fast to really grasp whats being said. The best way to compare it is to the disclaimers at the end of car dealership and pharmaceutical commercials. Ok. Not quite as bad as that but still too much too fast in too small a time frame. Fortunately this can be easily corrected by some simple editing of the script.
Now keep in mind this is coming from someone who isnt exactly known for being a word conservative
This is how the script currently reads
"Join the action in Aces High. The online multiplayer combat simulation that pits you against thousands of real opponents from around the world. Fly aces high dot com is your destination for air combat and much more. By air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day. Learn the art of air combat and master the maneuvers and skills to make you an ace. Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and two week trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Now lets play with it a bit. Omit the join the action. Simply not needed
Aces High!
Omit multilayer. Its redundant and at this point in this day an age everyone just assumes an online game is multiplayer. Besides. you basically say that in the next line. You also dont need "real" at this point "opponents from around the world" insinuates that already
The online combat simulation that pits you against thousands of opponents from around the world.
Substitute "is your destination" for "is the place to be". "the place to be" infers that is where the cool things happen over all others. If you want to tell someone to go to a really cool bar over any others in the area. You dont say " Happy Jacks is your destination " You say "Happy Jacks is the place to be." Takes about as long to say it as "is your destination" Aces High is the place to be. Yea man...dig it.
Fly aces high dot com is the place to be for air combat and much more.
The next line is perfect. Nice tie in to the marine hymn
By air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day.
The next line is ..ok the way it is. Learn the art of air combat and master the maneuvers and skills to make you an ace. the revised version sounds more like a challenge
Master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace. Or Can you master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace?
The next lines are fine as is. Only I would up the anti to one month. You get someone her for a month. You got em hooked
Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and one month free trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Now. lets look at the revised version
Aces High! The online combat simulation that pits you against thousands of opponents from around the world. Air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day. Fly aces high dot com is the place to be for air combat and much more. Can you master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace? Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and one month free trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Note I flipped the 2nd and 3rd lines to tie in better with the 4th
Original script is 89 words Revised is 86
Only 3 words but it buys you a bit more time to state the message and for that message to be comprehended. Also it states that AH isnt just a destination to go to but THE place to be. (its where the cool kids are) It also doesnt tell you to learn ACM. It challenges you to.
Finally. Two weeks isnt enough. Its meh. It takes about a month to assimilate and get a grasp as to whats going on. Plus a month long offer gets your attention. Two weeks of being clubbed like a seal can send folks packing. After about a week off from being frustrated people are more likely to say "Yanno what. Im not giving up that easy. Ill give it another go.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: JVboob on June 28, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
Dred needs a job HT! :aok
I like it +1
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Post by: HB555 on June 28, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
Dred, are you in advertising or just good? Either way, that strikes a good chord with me. Nicely done.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: The Fugitive on June 28, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Constructive criticism on that commercial. Two issues
Trying to pack too much into too small of a timeframe visually for that type of ad. Everything flashes by so fast and so mixed up you cant get a look at one thing and understand whats going on before it flashes to another. a Better way of doing it in the same span of time would have been to almost follow a storyline Example
Mission sized flight of 17's dropping bombs with the iconic puffy ack all around,a 17 gets hit and goes down, fighter escort seen alongside, enemy(various planes) swoops including a 262(people see a 262 and its "wow Cool!") in shooting at the bombers bomber goes down. Fighters go after enemy( prop driven planes). Couple quick turns and shots from the interior cockpit view the enemy fighter goes down. Parachute is seen. Cut away to the GV game. Tank fires another tank blows up. Jabbo comes in and kills tank, Flakpanzer shoots at Jabo. Jabo get torched Cut away to naval a CV with planes lifting off then attacking a CV with tracers all around. CV seen sinking, cruiser firing. In the explosion the AH logo emerges "Are you up for the challenge?"
Point 2. Im from the northeast. Everyone talks fast here compared to the slow motion everyone else seems to speak at anywhere else I go. The speech in the commercial goes by also too fast to really grasp whats being said. The best way to compare it is to the disclaimers at the end of car dealership and pharmaceutical commercials. Ok. Not quite as bad as that but still too much too fast in too small a time frame. Fortunately this can be easily corrected by some simple editing of the script.
Now keep in mind this is coming from someone who isnt exactly known for being a word conservative
This is how the script currently reads
"Join the action in Aces High. The online multiplayer combat simulation that pits you against thousands of real opponents from around the world. Fly aces high dot com is your destination for air combat and much more. By air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day. Learn the art of air combat and master the maneuvers and skills to make you an ace. Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and two week trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Now lets play with it a bit. Omit the join the action. Simply not needed
Aces High!
Omit multilayer. Its redundant and at this point in this day an age everyone just assumes an online game is multiplayer. Besides. you basically say that in the next line. You also dont need "real" at this point "opponents from around the world" insinuates that already
The online combat simulation that pits you against thousands of opponents from around the world.
Substitute "is your destination" for "is the place to be". "the place to be" infers that is where the cool things happen over all others. If you want to tell someone to go to a really cool bar over any others in the area. You dont say " Happy Jacks is your destination " You say "Happy Jacks is the place to be." Takes about as long to say it as "is your destination" Aces High is the place to be. Yea man...dig it.
Fly aces high dot com is the place to be for air combat and much more.
The next line is perfect. Nice tie in to the marine hymn
By air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day.
The next line is ..ok the way it is. Learn the art of air combat and master the maneuvers and skills to make you an ace. the revised version sounds more like a challenge
Master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace. Or Can you master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace?
The next lines are fine as is. Only I would up the anti to one month. You get someone her for a month. You got em hooked
Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and one month free trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Now. lets look at the revised version
Aces High! The online combat simulation that pits you against thousands of opponents from around the world. Air,land,and sea, the battle rages online 24 hours a day. Fly aces high dot com is the place to be for air combat and much more. Can you master the maneuvers and skills in the art of air combat to make you an ace? Go to fly aces high dot com for your free software download and one month free trial. Are you up for the challenge?"
Note I flipped the 2nd and 3rd lines to tie in better with the 4th
Original script is 89 words Revised is 86
Only 3 words but it buys you a bit more time to state the message and for that message to be comprehended. Also it states that AH isnt just a destination to go to but THE place to be. (its where the cool kids are) It also doesnt tell you to learn ACM. It challenges you to.
Finally. Two weeks isnt enough. Its meh. It takes about a month to assimilate and get a grasp as to whats going on. Plus a month long offer gets your attention. Two weeks of being clubbed like a seal can send folks packing. After about a week off from being frustrated people are more likely to say "Yanno what. Im not giving up that easy. Ill give it another go.
You do realize that this commercial is from like 10 YEARS ago right?
While the changes you made are good the whole thing is very dated. A new one of course would have the new graphics, but the layout whould have to change. No time to show ALL the things you can do in Aces High (like this one tries to do) but show only a few with bolder dynamics, more in your face action, to catch the players of todays attention. Once they come check out the game THEN let them know whats available.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 06:06:54 PM
You do realize that this commercial is from like 10 YEARS ago right?
While the changes you made are good the whole thing is very dated. A new one of course would have the new graphics, but the layout whould have to change. No time to show ALL the things you can do in Aces High (like this one tries to do) but show only a few with bolder dynamics, more in your face action, to catch the players of todays attention. Once they come check out the game THEN let them know whats available.
Yes I do know its old and dated. Yet my point remains unchanged as I dont see anything I suggested that wouldnt work equally as well with the new version graphics and all. In a sense visually you are suggesting what I am suggesting. Thing is even if it goes by quickly. Its a lot easier to follow a story line of sorts as opposed to splashes of this that and the other thing all hodgpodged together
From a script standpoint the message is still the same regardless of how dated or current the version is
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Bizman on June 30, 2015, 03:25:22 PM
Hi Bizman, Can you block YouTube ads on a phone? I'm finding conflicting info online, and don't want to corrupt my phone with bad programs.
Thanks, Buck
Sorry for the late answer, I was on a holiday trip for a few days, AFK all of the time.
About your question, I haven't seen a single Youtube ad on my phone yet. Then again, I haven't seen any Youtube video on it either. It's a Nokia 6310 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_6310i), suppose that explains a lot... :salute
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: bustr on June 30, 2015, 04:12:48 PM
Yes I do know its old and dated. Yet my point remains unchanged as I dont see anything I suggested that wouldnt work equally as well with the new version graphics and all. In a sense visually you are suggesting what I am suggesting. Thing is even if it goes by quickly. Its a lot easier to follow a story line of sorts as opposed to splashes of this that and the other thing all hodgpodged together
From a script standpoint the message is still the same regardless of how dated or current the version is
Dred,
A lot of the syntax and imagery you created reminds me of the syntax and imagery from a competitor. That is another issue of advertisement which has to be avoided. You don't look good on many levels if your advertisements sound or look like the competition. The Internet generation wants everything free, and the competition is free, even if it is a deceptive hook to get around "pay to win".
Your assertions to the psychology of the current generation of gamers is sound. The competition's advertisements prove that. Also be careful where your seemingly unique ideas gestated out of. You may well have visited the competition, or suffered through their advertisements with the rest of us over the last few years.
Steal and modify is a standard concept in advertisement. Good ideas are good ideas. Sounding or looking like the competition other than the accepted stages to present the pitch upon is not. Unless you have a paradigm shift for the industry in your new product like the horseless carriage versus the buggy whip.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 30, 2015, 10:42:18 PM
A lot of the syntax and imagery you created reminds me of the syntax and imagery from a competitor. That is another issue of advertisement which has to be avoided. You don't look good on many levels if your advertisements sound or look like the competition. The Internet generation wants everything free, and the competition is free, even if it is a deceptive hook to get around "pay to win".
Your assertions to the psychology of the current generation of gamers is sound. The competition's advertisements prove that. Also be careful where your seemingly unique ideas gestated out of. You may well have visited the competition, or suffered through their advertisements with the rest of us over the last few years.
Steal and modify is a standard concept in advertisement. Good ideas are good ideas. Sounding or looking like the competition other than the accepted stages to present the pitch upon is not. Unless you have a paradigm shift for the industry in your new product like the horseless carriage versus the buggy whip.
Yea I know its a bit long winded. apologies in advance and please bear with me to make my points.
I only on very rare occasion visit many other gaming sites to be polluted by their ads. and I dont watch a whole lot of TV lately. But I get what you are saying.
I dont claim my ideas are unique, The fact other games may have used that format certainly isnt unique. Nor was the style used in that AH commercial anything unique.
Storytelling in commercials is a quite common practice. You cant steal a common practice
Here is one good one from that search http://ontracktips.com/storytelling-business-building-chris-brogan/
See. Nothing unique about storytelling
First let me say. My business is not AH. Two different animals. Im not looking to step on toes nor tell anyone how to run things. I am merely offering suggestions based on my experiences of what I find works and doesnt.
But there are certain things that translate to each other or businesses as a whole.
As an example. A Gaming companys "bug fixes" are basically the same idea as my "touch ups"
Sales far as Im concerned are sales. No matter if you are selling used cars or widgets. The principles for the most part remain the same. The idea is to get people to buy into your service or product.
Im basing my suggestions on 30+ years of having to by necessity sell myself as well as my business,the businesses and depts Ive had to work for, to other people,departments, and entities etc.
There are a few things Ive learned both through trial and error and sheer observation over the years that work well and others not as much and Ill try and break down the reasoning behind the suggestions I put forth.
Firstly neither of us have huge budgets for advertising. So you have to make the most with what you have.
Name recognition is a big big seller. Having a GREAT name helps (I have one Im told). But in advertising. One of the main reasons for name recognition isnt the commercials themselves. But how often you are inundated with it. For example Who doesnt hate those loud car dealership commercials we see and hear almost constantly? We all hate them but I bet you that most everyone here could name a few near you off the top of your head.
This works not because they are good commercials. (Most are annoying at best). But repetition. Because of the sheer number of times the commercial is aired and the viewer or listen is forced to experience it. You can only do this with a large advertising budget. In that instance almost any commercial will work. Whats that saying about getting people to believe something by saying it over and over again? Same principle.
Ok neither of us can go there. Ok so what works when you dont have sheer repetition on your side? Well lets look at what we know people dont like.And what they do
First, While some can fall for it. Most people dont like or respond well to fast talk. Be it verbally or visually. I find most people from millionaires to executives, to everyday working class shmo want to be talked to. Not talked at or fast talked. Now lets go back to that car commercial again. Often accompanied by different makes and models flashing by the screen. Annoying isnt it?
The flashing item works for places like the box home improvement stores and other commercials because your being told a story along with the description of what you are seeing that you can buy. Slightly less repetitious by every bit as effective "AHAH I can get that new chop saw and the floor trim at (insert box store name)" And definitely less annoying.
Still. A lot of that while less repetitious then the car dealer is still overly repetitious. Well we cant afford that either .
So what can we use? People love to be told a story. Dont think so? Tell everyone to get rid of their TVs and swear never to go to the movies. good luck with that.
Ok now that we agree people love to be told stories we can move back to advertising. Rather then flashcards, or flash video clips. Tell a story. People will remember it longer.
That car commercial. Do you remember what cars were shown? Probably not. "one was a truck, one was an SUV, One was a sedan. and a coupe others I dont remember." Right? But yo do remember through sheer repetition the name of that damn dealership!
Now what about the commercials you remember the commercial itself?. What do they have in common? They were entertaining and they all tell stories.
I tell stories by not talking at, or fast talking by saying I can do this that and the other thing yea yea yea. But by talking to people like people and telling them exactly what is going to happen and what they are going to get when I get to their home. I'll often use other often humorous stories of similar situations because they find it entertaining and lets the customer feel more at ease. Key word. "Entertaining"
If you can make a story entertaining, something they can follow. People will remember it. Bet ya remember what kind of beer the most interesting man in the world drinks. And he makes drinking it..cool even if it tastes like crap.
Its the stories.
Flashclips "You can have this that the other thing yea yea" are too hard to follow. Especially if you are limited as to how often you can deliver them.
But you can follow a story line. Outside of pure repetition story line the most successful way to get people to remember. I get people that call me back sometimes 8-10 months later for something because they remember me telling them I a story about something or things I did for someone else. And have had others that couldnt remember the other things I listed I could do 2 days after me listing them.
Continued...
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 30, 2015, 10:44:01 PM
Odds are they will forget half the things you listed
then try telling them a short but interesting story about B17's dropping bombs on a target and get attacked by a 262. The fightercover goes after the enemy planes then drops bombs on tanks. meanwhile planes took off from an aircraft carrier to attack an enemy ship and a cruiser battle.
I bet you a months subscription they remember most of the story before they remember the list.
Other gaming companies use story lines for one simple reason. They are the most effective. That not unique Thats as common a lure as a spinner bait. As a hook. you toss in something for free. But its gotta be something worth biting on. I frequently toss in freebies other people charge for (as does HTC) But I know that once Im there. because of the quality of my work There is a better then 90% chance I am getting called for more work as have an over 90% retention rate and most of the rest are moving.
You get someone here for a month.The quality of the game itself is such that many if not most are staying. And a good deal of those that go elsewhere for the bogus "free to play" will come back for HTCs honest all inclusive price.
HTC has one other major thing going for it we also share in common. You get to deal with them, the core company and not just some paid representative. I dont know how much people realize how respected that personal experience is by customers and what a good impression that makes.
How impressed would you be if you called to complain about Windows and you got Bill Gates on the line as opposed to Shakira Bamachuma from Delhi India? (no offense to Indians intended)
Finally. Im not saying to use my exact story line. what I listed were mere examples to a point I am trying to make. If that storyline is similar to another game. Simply change the story line around. But telling a story visually over flashing disconnected clips is going to be far more effective barring having the funds to inundate people with repetitive commercials
Like I said at the beginning. I am not trying to step on any toes. Just offering some help and an outside view based on what I see as some of the few similarities we share and my own experiences on what has worked extremely well for me (For the record. The last time I figured it all out. I get 85% of the work I go after so I must be doing something right) and how I though it might translate over.
Now. If they think my thoughts and opinions are good and use them. Great. Im not looking for recognition or accolades. Im just proud to had helped. My reasons are simple. I just want the game to succeed.
If not. Well I fully recognize that what I find works for me they might not. Thats cool too.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: bustr on July 01, 2015, 01:26:26 AM
Our next generation of AH players will be gamers. They may be irritating children and other such descriptions. But, they will quickly let HTC know if there is no difference to them in the advertisements.
Instead of us swinging our male parts around to see who's Is bigger, let Hitech handle his own advertisements. Quantity is only making you and I look silly.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Shrike on July 03, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
Have any of you used Periscope? I downloaded the app early on. It was free then it may cost something now. It's amusing at best but you can attract an audience from just about anywhere in the world.
I did a broadcast last night while fighting in a Hellcat near a CV. About 8 joined the broadcast 2 or 3 stuck with the 5 minute broadcast and where quite interested. They saw me make a high speed pass on a formation of B-26's and land on a CV (on handed :O). I answered several questions.
I used an iphone 4. The camera stinks so the video was grainy. Someone could do it better with a better phone but this might be a small way to attract interest without HTC having to break the bank for advertising.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Schwalbee on July 03, 2015, 10:52:17 AM
Have any of you used Periscope? I downloaded the app early on. It was free then it may cost something now. It's amusing at best but you can attract an audience from just about anywhere in the world.
I did a broadcast last night while fighting in a Hellcat near a CV. About 8 joined the broadcast 2 or 3 stuck with the 5 minute broadcast and where quite interested. They saw me make a high speed pass on a formation of B-26's and land on a CV (on handed :O). I answered several questions.
I used an iphone 4. The camera stinks so the video was grainy. Someone could do it better with a better phone but this might be a small way to attract interest without HTC having to break the bank for advertising.
Some of us can just stream on twitch, it's the biggest game streaming service or there. Stream during a large mission and ppl will surely get interested.
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Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: mthrockmor on July 03, 2015, 09:27:09 PM
This is the ad that brought me to AH many a moon ago.
boo
<--- mee toooooo
Remember seeing it on History Channel, IIRC while watching DogFights..... looked at the wife..... she rolled her eyes... went down hill from there.....
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Bizman on July 04, 2015, 01:25:27 AM
According to Alan Wolk's article in the Guardian, Time is running out for the 30-second TV commercial (http://www.theguardian.com/media-network/2015/jun/22/30-second-commercial-advertising-outdated), 84% of viewers would like to fast forward the ads, 60% record the shows to skip the commercials, 80% of SuperBowl ads don't increase sales for companies... Doesn't look like a profitable way to invest our monthly $15.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Schwalbee on July 04, 2015, 03:15:01 AM
According to Alan Wolk's article in the Guardian, Time is running out for the 30-second TV commercial (http://www.theguardian.com/media-network/2015/jun/22/30-second-commercial-advertising-outdated), 84% of viewers would like to fast forward the ads, 60% record the shows to skip the commercials, 80% of SuperBowl ads don't increase sales for companies... Doesn't look like a profitable way to invest our monthly $15.
I agree ads arnt the best idea anymore. I feel the best type of exposure for the game has to come from the players. For example some of the younger tech savvy guys who play, can stream on websites like Twitch. It is a live broadcast of your game so probably don't do it during an important mission or just don't tell anyone playing AH your streaming. But this would expose the game to many flight sim guys already in the genre who don't know about AH,and you can interact with them and let them know.
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Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2015, 09:20:09 AM
I agree ads arnt the best idea anymore. I feel the best type of exposure for the game has to come from the players. For example some of the younger tech savvy guys who play, can stream on websites like Twitch. It is a live broadcast of your game so probably don't do it during an important mission or just don't tell anyone playing AH your streaming. But this would expose the game to many flight sim guys already in the genre who don't know about AH,and you can interact with them and let them know.
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.... and social media. While we have someone working on it it needs to be MUCH more active. Daily post are a must! It doesn't just need to be about game activities but anything WWII.
1100 a post about how so-and-so, so-and-so, so-and-so, and so-and-so, of the Bish just took field A47! 1200 a post about a picture found on the web with a short story. 1300 a post about a warbird pulled from lake Michigan 1400 a post from the BBS Midwar, a place to gain perks or fight a war? 1500 a post about a fight between player so-and-so, vs player so-and-so, link to a youtube video 1600 a post about how the bish have now captured tank town island, Can the Knits and Rooks battle back? 1700 a post about another photo on the internet with a question about, like can you name this squadron? 1800 Bish win map! the Grinder map is now up in the LW Main arena!
8 posts. Some would generate a discussion adding to the post count. The more active the account the more it gets noticed. The more it gets noticed the more other people look to see whats going on. Even if they are not interested in WWII someone may say something about WWII and they jump in with what little bit of info they have spotted and a new person comes to check it out. 50-100 posts a day would be easy to hit, add in a picture or two of the new version and you could double it.
The point is that it must be much more active.
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: caldera on July 04, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
See rule #4
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: mthrockmor on July 04, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: 1stpar3 on July 06, 2015, 11:50:38 PM
An add on the Tv brought me here as well. I think it was an episode of "fighter aces" on the Military channel. All I know , is I am glad I don't work a job any more!!! This game is so addictive that I would get fired for showing up late (maybe I play too much?) lol I am hoping that HTC does a bit more advertising after the update as would be great to realize the type of numbers in game I always hear about from years past. :airplane:
Title: Re: Aces High Ads?
Post by: Chilli on July 07, 2015, 04:08:16 AM
Couldn't help but weigh in. I forget who it was, maybe Pyro, when they announced in the Main Arena one evening, they were going to record some films for an upcoming commercial, and asked interested parties to meet in another arena (might have been the old Combat Theater or Special Events arena must have been about ~10 years ago).
It drew a large crowd, and everyone seem to follow instructions, as we were herded into tanks along side of a dirt road. I remember the chat was crazy with anticipation of what were going to be doing. Then, suddenly we heard various voices and text chatter alive with comments like, "here they come!"....."They're in dive bombers! Man your guns!" :x
Seconds later :airplane: we were buzzed several times by them and we did our best to rain lead in their direction but as the air of excitement took over all emotion :D we weren't quite sure if we wanted to hit the planes for fear that one of them was rolling the film or might even playfully eject us :furious
They finished their runs and thanked us all for taking part and then, all the shenanigans began. It was the very first time I recalled seeing large numbers of tanks in the same small area, and yes we found instantly that we could shoot each other..... GAME ON!!! :rock
Anyhow, I think they only used like 2, 2 second clips of the event in a 30 second commercial that some of you might be recalling as your introduction to the game. If interested in seeing them again try youtube. If you are interested in what is currently under wraps then go here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClTbiZpm7CZRQtwl3FjNxsg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClTbiZpm7CZRQtwl3FjNxsg)