General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrKrabs on June 25, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
Title: Bad Pizza
Post by: MrKrabs on June 25, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
Have you ever been so angry about bad pizza that you go back to them with a can of store-bought 59 cent can of marinara sauce and mozzarella sticks from ARBY's just to tell them if they want to charge $20 bucks for a pizza and $7 for mozz sticks they need to start here...
I know it's completely wrong on my part... But come fracking on...
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Meatwad on June 25, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Pizza hut?
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: MrKrabs on June 25, 2015, 06:43:10 PM
I don't mind paying if the pizza is good... In this part of Florida it's par for the course...
But when I mean bad pizza I mean it makes those $1 frozen pizza in discount grocery store look good...
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: 68valu on June 25, 2015, 07:14:26 PM
I'm just a small town pizza lawyer and i'm tellin ya "It's all perfectly legal!!!"
68valu
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Zimme83 on June 25, 2015, 07:17:27 PM
For that prize it has to be something really special....
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: BaldEagl on June 25, 2015, 07:34:47 PM
For some very odd reason I've always liked Dominos. One night I ordered a Pizza from them. 45 minutes later I called when it hadn't arrived yet. They said it would be here in 30 minutes. Thirty minutes later I ordered a second time on-line. 45 minutes later the driver arrived with the Pizza. After a two hour wait the driver had the gall to argue with me because I wasn't giving him a tip. They offered me no discount. Nothing.
A few days later I got a "We're sorry" discount coupon in the mail for a large pizza for $9.99. I logged onto their website and could order the same pizza for $7.99.
I haven't ordered from them again and never will. I'd take bad pizza over that experience.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: MrKrabs on June 25, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
Like reindeeer meat and some super fancy expensive cheese etc?
nah
I love Chicago Pizza and my favorite place has the water and other ingredients shipped down here from Illinois. Especially their beef.
Then there is the place within walking distance of me that is still expensive but the effort they put into their pizzas makes it completely worth it. Is it alot of nonsense for pizza? Yes... But once you have really really good pizza you cannot eat other stuff...
I do like Dominos from time to time. Is it cheap... yes... But I get what I expected.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Meatwad on June 25, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
Somebody ordered me a sausage pizza once...
(http://dada.warped.com/movies/10202ously.jpg)
...once!
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: WWhiskey on June 25, 2015, 10:11:44 PM
Little Caesars,, $12 =good stuff!
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: 100Coogn on June 25, 2015, 10:18:40 PM
Have you ever been so angry about bad pizza that you go back to them with a can of store-bought 59 cent can of marinara sauce and mozzarella sticks from ARBY's just to tell them if they want to charge $20 bucks for a pizza and $7 for mozz sticks they need to start here...
I know it's completely wrong on my part... But come fracking on...
Pizza never enraged me, so no I haven't done that. I just buy someplace else.
Coogan
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Serenity on June 26, 2015, 04:33:42 PM
We have a pizza place down here called Mellow Mushroom, which is pricey, but very good. But going cheap, I like Pizza Hut, though they've started skimping on ingredients, so I have to get extra cheese and extra toppings.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: HPriller on June 26, 2015, 04:36:13 PM
$20 hah! Most... correction ALL of the pizza places at the local commercial strip 3 blocks from my house charge in excess of $30 for large six topping (supreme, or whatever). If I want pizza on the cheap I prefer pizza hut but they don't even deliver to where I live and they don't honor any of their nationally advertised coupons or email prices that they spam me with, it's still gonna cost me $15 before taxes (yes plural, not just sales tax, but also fast food tax, healthcare tax and whatever other nonsense they tack onto it these days) for a stuffed crust supreme from pizza hut.
Actually, come to think of it, the last time I ordered delivery pizza I had to cough up a General Grant to the delivery guy for just 1 large pizza and a fried zucchini appetizer. That was ~2 years ago now.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
I can get pizza from any of the franchises delivered to my house with no trouble. little ceasar's is just 1 block from my house too.
but when I want real pizza I go to petrillo's in san gabriel. it's like 35 bucks for a large pizza made with real cheese and lots of good stuff. takes me 45 minutes to get there one way. well worth the money.
semp
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
and oh yeah there's a pizza place just around the corner called bud's pizza. went the other day for lunch. spent 13 bucks on hot wings and a large beer. he gave me 1/2 a pitcher of beer, worst fricking beer ever. it was warm and the hot wings were overcooked to the point of almost being like chicken jerky. needless to say I tipped the guy as I am pretty sure he did his best. but sure as hell not going back there.
If I dont like the food, I never go back. but I dont like to argue with them as there is no point. the guy is probably struggling already and he knows it. no point in adding to his misery.
semp
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: bustr on June 26, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
None of you makes your own or bothers to improve the offerings from like COSTCO or Safeway's competition to COSTCO's brand pizza? Or even the many brands of pizza from the frozen isles at your grocery?
In many cases the reason they come out of your oven crisped at the edge and wet in the center is you need to cook them at 385 and not 400 per the instructions on the carton. By cooking lower and slower the water that results from the thawing of the red sauce and toppings evaporates rather than sits in the center. You also get an even rising and baking of the crust. The crust will brown just fine because you are cooking above 325 along with your sausage slices getting some sizzle.
They come out crappy because the higher heat at 400+ cooks the pizza dough too fast not allowing the toppings to catch up due to thawing and water evaporation. Or you can allow the pizza to come to room temp before placing it in a 400+ oven. In either case you can add on more toppings to enhance the results.
The cooking time is still shorter than waiting 30min.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Meatwad on June 26, 2015, 06:24:53 PM
Im cheap, either $5 little Caesar pepperoni or whatever the store has on sale. ive always cooked on a pizza pan at 400 directly from the freezer, no preheating. They have always come out yummy
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: MiloMorai on June 26, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
Little Lebanese place just down the road makes good pizza. A 16" 3 item with a large soda > $20 Don't skimp on the cheese and items either.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Widewing on June 26, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
When it comes to pizza, the crust is everything.... We have three of the best Italian/Pizza restaurants in the northeast (according to their ratings), within 20 minutes from where I live. I also enjoy a good Chicago style deep dish pie as well.
If you don't mind frozen pizza, try Red Barron deep dish pizzas. Much better than the typical crap from the national chains.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: potsNpans on June 26, 2015, 07:50:29 PM
If your nose can't tell the flavor of a pizza parlor or you don't see the fat mustached Italiano, you might be disappointed. My Grand ma used to say ' you no putza you no taste a'. Never been angry for trying some new restaurant, only disappointed in my high expectations. Try it again after fasting for 48 hours, it'll be the best dam pizza you ate in a long time. Some one probably told them there was a lot of 'dough' to be made in pizza.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: caldera on June 26, 2015, 08:30:08 PM
Been making my own pizza from scratch for a while now. Dough takes 5 minutes to make and is ready in two hours. Preheat the pizza stone for 1/2 hour at 500 degrees. I can't quite make them round but whatever.
Fresh dough + dear old Mom's homemade sauce + fresh mozzarella + pepperoni + onions = awesomeness. Wash down with quality suds and sleep it off. Wake up. Repeat. :cheers:
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: 100Coogn on June 26, 2015, 09:15:43 PM
I haven't had to pay for a pizza in a few years now. Fresh hot pizza, my way for free. :) Course, helps when your brother is an assistant manager of a Pizza Hut too. :D
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2015, 11:42:11 PM
I can get pizza from any of the franchises delivered to my house with no trouble. little ceasar's is just 1 block from my house too.
but when I want real pizza I go to petrillo's in san gabriel. it's like 35 bucks for a large pizza made with real cheese and lots of good stuff. takes me 45 minutes to get there one way. well worth the money.
semp
Little ceasars pizza is NOT real pizza. Same thing with Pizza hut.
My experience is the farther away you get from Little Italy NY or NJ the harder it is to find a decent pan pie. I understand the same holds true with Chicago pies
Pizza from Little Italy is the best. Seaside in NJ is next best (HUGE pies too) outside if that in NY NJ area they average from pretty decent to pretty good. No matter if you are in Little Italy, NY or NJ the best way to find a good pie is to look for the least fancy place. The more fancy the pizza joint looks the less likely you are going to get a really good pie.
Same thing holds true with food from Diners. The more like a dump the place looks. The more likely it is you are going to find great food. As well known as NJ is for having Diners. There are very few true Diners anymore. Most these days are restaurants that call themselves Diners. And they dont even know how to properly make decent home fries anymore.
True Diners hire cooks. Not chefs. And the cook usually goes by some rough sounding name like "Chuck" who is usually either ex military or an ex con..sometimes both. And if you dont like the food or want it a certain special way the cook is just as likely to tell you to pzz off or say "This aint burger king. You get it my way or not at all" (I actually saw that on a sign in a place once.. GREAT food though
And thats typically the story. They dont cook anything fancy or do special orders. But they dont need to because its just that good
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: JimmyC on June 29, 2015, 12:28:57 AM
We have a pizza place down here called Mellow Mushroom, which is pricey, but very good. But going cheap, I like Pizza Hut, though they've started skimping on ingredients, so I have to get extra cheese and extra toppings.
Went to the local one. Slow service, rude waitress, and expensive. Pizza was so damn good I'll go back though.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: mike8318 on June 29, 2015, 12:24:09 PM
We have a Mellow Mushroonm and Johnnys New York Style Pizza close by. Prefer Johnnys.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Dichotomy on June 29, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
I haven't had to pay for a pizza in a few years now. Fresh hot pizza, my way for free. :) Course, helps when your brother is an assistant manager of a Pizza Hut too. :D
one of my 'kids' is the manager at Papa Johns. I get an average of two free a week
edit. In the old recipe swap thread there's a recipe for really good deep dish style pizza. I make it a couple times a year and it's amazing
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Volron on June 29, 2015, 05:51:19 PM
one of my 'kids' is the manager at Papa Johns. I get an average of two free a week
edit. In the old recipe swap thread there's a recipe for really good deep dish style pizza. I make it a couple times a year and it's amazing
Got to love it. :D He'll bring one or two if I ask, but I don't eat as much pizza as one would think. Wish Pizza Hut had as many options as Papa Johns though. I would eat pizza more often if it did. :aok
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Zimme83 on June 29, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
If u cant decide if u want pizza or a burger, u can have both... (http://www.decorange.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/P4211085S.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: hgtonyvi on July 01, 2015, 01:14:38 AM
Best pizza place is about 15 minutes drive from where I live. It's called tommy's pizzeria. It's in NY, prolly the best pizza you will ever have. Just the plain cheese pie is good. I usually get 1 large regular cheese for $16 bucks and a large buffalo chicken pie for $22. I usually do that once a month.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Someguy63 on July 01, 2015, 01:36:23 AM
For some very odd reason I've always liked Dominos. One night I ordered a Pizza from them. 45 minutes later I called when it hadn't arrived yet. They said it would be here in 30 minutes. Thirty minutes later I ordered a second time on-line. 45 minutes later the driver arrived with the Pizza. After a two hour wait the driver had the gall to argue with me because I wasn't giving him a tip. They offered me no discount. Nothing.
A few days later I got a "We're sorry" discount coupon in the mail for a large pizza for $9.99. I logged onto their website and could order the same pizza for $7.99.
I haven't ordered from them again and never will. I'd take bad pizza over that experience.
This happened to me, they are 5 minutes from my home and it took them 45 minutes to reach me. I still like their pizza though it tops Pizza Hut in some ways.
I'm going to New York on Friday and can't wait to get a pizza from there.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: guncrasher on July 01, 2015, 02:05:12 AM
Little ceasars pizza is NOT real pizza. Same thing with Pizza hut.
except you should ask yourself, what is real pizza? the answer my friend is blowing in the wind. pizza, pizza pie and real pizza is just something people use, to think they "eat better stuff" than others :).
When I was in high school, I used to work at the local 15 miles away Shakey's pizza parlor. When we could, we used to get a thick dough, let it soak in jalapeno juice, add refried beans, cheese, chorizo, and sausage. that was some really good pizza. we sometimes would bring bacon and deep fry it along with some mojo potatoes and add it on top. that was awesome.
Pizza is just like a hamburger or a hot dog. if it tastes good, then it's the real thing :rock :rock :rock
semp
semp
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on July 01, 2015, 05:53:57 AM
Best pizza I've ever eaten is the greek 4 cheese pizza. It's like crack in cheese form.
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Mar on July 01, 2015, 09:16:33 AM
:x PIZZA!!! :x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTY4-x9pvU
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: SilverZ06 on July 01, 2015, 01:32:23 PM
krabs what part of Florida? Name of the shop?
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 03, 2015, 12:09:15 AM
except you should ask yourself, what is real pizza? the answer my friend is blowing in the wind. pizza, pizza pie and real pizza is just something people use, to think they "eat better stuff" than others :).
When I was in high school, I used to work at the local 15 miles away Shakey's pizza parlor. When we could, we used to get a thick dough, let it soak in jalapeno juice, add refried beans, cheese, chorizo, and sausage. that was some really good pizza. we sometimes would bring bacon and deep fry it along with some mojo potatoes and add it on top. that was awesome.
Pizza is just like a hamburger or a hot dog. if it tastes good, then it's the real thing :rock :rock :rock
semp
semp
BS
Come to Jersey and I'll show you what real pizza tastes like. Comparing Pizza Hut or Little Ceasers to real pizza is like finding the cheapest watered down store brand soda water you can find,adding some food coloring to it and calling it Coke
And BTW. That conglomeration you just listed and called Pizza. Wouldnt evenlegally be allowed to be called pizza in Italy
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Groth on July 06, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Been 'on the skids' couple times..lived outta car few..one time was dishwasher at pizza place near Chicago. Had great oven, revolving triple shelves. Bottom cooked bottom faster, top cooked top faster, middle in between. Us peasants employed there got choice of small cheese pizza or small meatball sandwich. One day the all important pizza chefs didn't have time for my small cheese pizza..was told to make my own. I cooked the crust on bottom shelf, than cooked cheese on top shelf till oil baked out of cheese into red crust on top...from then on made my own. After week or so, boss asked for slice..made me pizza chef...whoo hooo... The waitress's would offer customers my 'especial' with extra top cooking, we'd split tips. Than I walked in on some weird prostitution thing in office and quit in big hurry. Gotta love Chicago. JGroth
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Mar on July 06, 2015, 09:49:30 PM
That's a cool story, but all those "than's" kept hitting me like a shovel to my grammar-nazi face. :furious
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: SysError on July 07, 2015, 10:16:17 AM
... In many cases the reason they come out of your oven crisped at the edge and wet in the center is you need to cook them at 385 and not 400 per the instructions on the carton. By cooking lower and slower the water that results from the thawing of the red sauce and toppings evaporates rather than sits in the center. You also get an even rising and baking of the crust. The crust will brown just fine because you are cooking above 325 along with your sausage slices getting some sizzle. ...
Just tried this the other day. Pizza came out great!
thanks for tip. :cheers:
Title: Re: Bad Pizza
Post by: Meatwad on July 07, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
Been 'on the skids' couple times..lived outta car few..one time was dishwasher at pizza place near Chicago. Had great oven, revolving triple shelves. Bottom cooked bottom faster, top cooked top faster, middle in between. Us peasants employed there got choice of small cheese pizza or small meatball sandwich. One day the all important pizza chefs didn't have time for my small cheese pizza..was told to make my own. I cooked the crust on bottom shelf, than cooked cheese on top shelf till oil baked out of cheese into red crust on top...from then on made my own. After week or so, boss asked for slice..made me pizza chef...whoo hooo... The waitress's would offer customers my 'especial' with extra top cooking, we'd split tips. Than I walked in on some weird prostitution thing in office and quit in big hurry. Gotta love Chicago. JGroth
Like he was pimping pizzas on the side? Or making erotic movies involving pizza toppings?