General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rpm on July 08, 2015, 01:38:03 AM
Title: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: rpm on July 08, 2015, 01:38:03 AM
Wish there was film of this miraculous achievement that just happened. Jump country, land 16 kills 9 minutes later. There's no way it can be done legitimately. If that's what it takes to pump your score to #1 it's pretty sad. :police: :police: :police:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Bruv119 on July 08, 2015, 02:02:41 AM
we need names or this is purely conjecture at this point. :D
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: FLOOB on July 08, 2015, 02:08:51 AM
I saw that. I was sitting in an I16 at 186 picking a cylinder with six security pins. Opened it several times before they captured 186. Lets see skyrr do that.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: vHACKv on July 08, 2015, 02:12:20 AM
I once got 10 kills in 16 minutes... In a B25-h :old:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Skyyr on July 08, 2015, 03:22:27 AM
It was actually 43 kills in ~60 minutes, which consisted of a 17 kill sortie, a 16 kill sortie, and two 5 kill sorties, all back-to-back.
For the "16 kills in 9 minutes" sortie and the sortie immediately after it, see here (it was actually a 17 minute sortie):
[Link for mobile users: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6FfzclUFY]
I just uploaded the video, so it might take a few minutes for it to finish rendering.
Good flying, all. Had a blast tonight!
-=S=-
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: captain1ma on July 08, 2015, 06:43:36 AM
Wish there was film of this miraculous achievement that just happened. Jump country, land 16 kills 9 minutes later. There's no way it can be done legitimately. If that's what it takes to pump your score to #1 it's pretty sad. :police: :police: :police:
years ago there were guys that would do that on a regular basis and they hated score so they never looked. its not an impossible task. JG54, once upon a time, had 3 guys that wouldn't land with less then 10 kills per sortie. they weren't padding their score, they just enjoyed pissing people off!
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Slade on July 08, 2015, 08:00:25 AM
Rearming is for non-males.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Kazaa on July 08, 2015, 08:20:23 AM
Re-arming increases natural testosterone.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Skyyr on July 08, 2015, 10:25:14 AM
I saw that. I was sitting in an I16 at 186 picking a cylinder with six security pins. Opened it several times before they captured 186. Lets see skyrr do that.
I got interested in locksmithing and lock-picking about three years ago. Unfortunately, my state (Tennessee) is one of the few in the US where picking a lock (even your own) without a license can be charged as a felony. Even simply possessing the tools (without using them whatsoever) can result in jail time.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Hetzer7 on July 08, 2015, 10:25:36 AM
That was awesome Skyyr <S>
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: DEECONX on July 08, 2015, 10:35:28 AM
I've probably died 16 times in under 10 minutes.... :neener:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: jimbo71 on July 08, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
Had a kill streak a few years ago was more humorous than brag-worthy. Was helping defend a white flagged town. Most other defenders were in gv's working their way out to the spawn point. They had gotten about 6 troops into the maproom. I was in a 110g2. As a last ditch effort to take the base they started upping Jeeps... a lot of jeeps. I killed 22 jeeps inside of 8-10 minutes. It felt like slaughtering a big group of otter. It was an otter slaughter lol!
JC
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Zimme83 on July 08, 2015, 12:14:40 PM
Flying anything with cannons should be concidered cheating.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Muzzy on July 08, 2015, 12:17:12 PM
Best I ever did was 11 kills with one rearm during a Friday Squad Ops frame. I don't usually rearm in the MA.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Zimme83 on July 08, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Dont think Ive gone past 5 in a sortie, almost never rearm dough. Hard to do 10+ in EW planes. Need to learn how to fly those über rides. I dont think ive killed anything in a LA-7 yet...
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: bangsbox on July 08, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
I've had 34 kills in 4 second :neener: some years back I caught a large b17 mission with escorts about to takeoff. I strafed them with a fully loaded 262 and 34 planes exploded on the runway. I was quickly PMed by more then a few of them saying: you F$%# and you lucky B. I landed safely and will never forget the absolute carnage a 262 can inflict in just one 500mph pass. It was felt better then my wife and she is amazing not to mention young and hot :devil
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: rpm on July 08, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
It was actually 43 kills in ~60 minutes, which consisted of a 17 kill sortie, a 16 kill sortie, and two 5 kill sorties, all back-to-back.
For the "16 kills in 9 minutes" sortie and the sortie immediately after it, see here (it was actually a 17 minute sortie):
[Link for mobile users: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6FfzclUFY]
I just uploaded the video, so it might take a few minutes for it to finish rendering.
Good flying, all. Had a blast tonight!
-=S=-
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: 49Dallas on July 08, 2015, 02:35:41 PM
years ago there were guys that would do that on a regular basis and they hated score so they never looked. its not an impossible task. JG54, once upon a time, had 3 guys that wouldn't land with less then 10 kills per sortie. they weren't padding their score, they just enjoyed pissing people off!
So what? They would crash if they had 9 but were missing half their plane?
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Skyyr on July 08, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
It's just gunnery. A one-half second burst in a D9 puts out about twelve 20mm rounds... and the same burst in an LA-7 puts out about twenty 20mm rounds. If you're ~15% accurate (functionally where my accuracy currently is), that's two or three 20mm impacting your opponent every time you pull the trigger. If you're steady with your aim, those rounds will usually hit the same component and cause it to fail. And that's just a half-second burst.
Factor in longer bursts, cockpit hits, the additional damage that the machine guns in the D9 cause, etc., and you can easily do 14-18 kills in a D9 in a single sortie without rearming (I have one or two 14 kill sorties uploaded to my YouTube channel). An LA-7 can usually get 12 if everything is done optimally (I had a 12 kill sortie the night before in the LA-7). Even a mid-war Spit IX can get 10-12.
Most of my D9 sorties are landed because of run out of fuel, not ammo (and I usually take 100% fuel).
Also, you realize I was flying as a Bishop during the sortie in question, right?
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Kazaa on July 08, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
(http://i.imgur.com/cU7rQB9.gif)
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: JOACH1M on July 08, 2015, 03:42:29 PM
It's just gunnery. A one-half second burst in a D9 puts out about twelve 20mm rounds... and the same burst in an LA-7 puts out about twenty 20mm rounds. If you're ~15% accurate (functionally where my accuracy currently is), that's two or three 20mm impacting your opponent every time you pull the trigger. If you're steady with your aim, those rounds will usually hit the same component and cause it to fail. And that's just a half-second burst.
Factor in longer bursts, cockpit hits, the additional damage that the machine guns in the D9 cause, etc., and you can easily do 14-18 kills in a D9 in a single sortie without rearming (I have one or two 14 kill sorties uploaded to my YouTube channel). An LA-7 can usually get 12 if everything is done optimally (I had a 12 kill sortie the night before in the LA-7). Even a mid-war Spit IX can get 10-12.
Most of my D9 sorties are landed because of run out of fuel, not ammo (and I usually take 100% fuel).
A 40 round burst with .50s is enough to rip the wing of a spitfire or kill a pilot and a Dora as an insane amount of ammo and firepower so i dont see it remarcable with 14 kills.
Have 5 kills with the Brew without reloading and then it have 1200 .50 rounds compare to 500 20mm + 950 .50:s for the dora....
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Canspec on July 08, 2015, 05:16:42 PM
Looked legit to me......a nice run or two with good team work.... :old:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Guppy35 on July 08, 2015, 06:18:37 PM
Ahh the return of RAGS. Just what AH needs......
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Someguy63 on July 08, 2015, 07:01:02 PM
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: The Fugitive on July 08, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
Sorry to say but when bish run there horde missions they are all very much into hitting there targets and have very little thought of defending themselves, or fighting. With a good aim and big cannons, this is very easy to do.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 08, 2015, 08:36:03 PM
The 190D has an extremely lethal gun package. 500 cannons with however many Mgs can wipeout huge heards of Buffalo. The cannons do the job well. One of my favorite gun packages/platforms other than the P38.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Scca on July 08, 2015, 08:36:44 PM
I still call BS. You are getting some phenomenal damage compared to what I see Bish guns do. 1 burst and planes explode. If my guns did that too, I might understand. Something ain't right.
Daddy says "It's a poor mechanic that blames his tools"
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 08, 2015, 08:57:04 PM
Dont think Ive gone past 5 in a sortie, almost never rearm dough. Hard to do 10+ in EW planes. Need to learn how to fly those über rides. I dont think ive killed anything in a LA-7 yet...
You don't need a late war plane like an La7 to get a large kill streak per sortie.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: captain1ma on July 08, 2015, 10:36:39 PM
Daddy says "It's a poor mechanic that blames his tools"
I fly with some pretty good sticks and none of them get damage results like that. It's pretty strange, but it's impossible to check the details on a Youtube vid vs an AH film.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Saito on July 09, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
I landed 10 kills in the I-16 in one run. :D
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Someguy63 on July 09, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
I fly with some pretty good sticks and none of them get damage results like that. It's pretty strange, but it's impossible to check the details on a Youtube vid vs an AH film.
Who are these good sticks?
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 09, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
I fly with some pretty good sticks and none of them get damage results like that. It's pretty strange, but it's impossible to check the details on a Youtube vid vs an AH film.
There is nothing out of the ordinary going on with his shooting. Someone with good gunnery skills in this game can achieve the same results, and with cannons it makes it easier for the skilled gunner. If you notice, the skilled gunners will aim for critical damage areas on the bandit that will most likely result in a single burst kill, especially with a cannon equipped fighter. I always aim for the wing root/cockpit area on fighters, knowing that a solid burst will usually result in a kill, regardless if I'm using my 4x .50s with or without my 20mm cannon.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: rpm on July 09, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
There is nothing out of the ordinary going on with his shooting. Someone with good gunnery skills in this game can achieve the same results, and with cannons it makes it easier for the skilled gunner. If you notice, the skilled gunners will aim for critical damage areas on the bandit that will most likely result in a single burst kill, especially with a cannon equipped fighter. I always aim for the wing root/cockpit area on fighters, knowing that a solid burst will usually result in a kill, regardless if I'm using my 4x .50s with or without my 20mm cannon.
I've never complained about your killing ability, but I've never seen you land 16 kills in 10 min, either. Been flying here for a long time. I recognise ACM vs gamey. His damage looks gamey to me or I wouldn't have brought it up.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: iKo on July 09, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
You see the film and there is nothing out of the ordinary at all. He did well but all I see was they guys that got killed did some really really bad flying, one even lawndarts. None could get a angle and just saddle up on his six, poor job by them not Skyyr. The buff hardly shoot at him at all and they got a lucky pw on him. All I know is that If it was me near buffs and field ack kill me every time no matter what and have no idea why. hell A ship auto ack takes me out when I can hardly see the cv lol.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: rpm on July 10, 2015, 01:54:13 AM
rpm, I don't blame you. I feel like I have an extreme case of rubber bullets myself. That's why I can't stand using 50 cals most of the time; put a 1 second burst into a planes canopy and do no damage, just irritating. I love the 50 cal fighters but I sometimes get put in a bad position when they simply don't die and I have to chase them longer. The 190D has a grand gun platform and during the right situation where cons are low and you have a fast track on all the planes around, it can result in a lot of kills if you can put planes down quickly with 1 or 2 passes. Sometimes you can even line up a group of planes on a friendlies 6 and get about 2-4 kills in a matter of seconds if you can take them down during the pass.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: JOACH1M on July 10, 2015, 07:26:14 AM
This whole thread makes my head hurt.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: MickDono on July 10, 2015, 09:26:42 AM
I'm not dragging anyone else into this. I've never complained about your killing ability, but I've never seen you land 16 kills in 10 min, either. Been flying here for a long time. I recognise ACM vs gamey. His damage looks gamey to me or I wouldn't have brought it up.
Again, it's just gunnery. Here's three kills in 90 seconds, 1v3 (one kill every 30 seconds).
Here's a 13 kill run, no re-arms (please forgive my poor flying, this was part of my first six months in the game).
It's quite normal.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: SkyRock on July 10, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
(please forgive my poor flying, this was part of my first six months in the game).
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Lizard on July 10, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
If you don't mind me asking Skyyr, what size monitor are you using? What size monitor are all you fellers using? :headscratch:
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Kazaa on July 10, 2015, 06:02:40 PM
I don't know what's more funny. The cheating claim or Skyyr feeling the need to post video evidence to prove his honor.
You know you've made it when people can't legitimately comprehend someone else's ability so the only rational choice left (for them) is to shroud the truth with an illusion.
I don't know what's more funny. The cheating claim or Skyyr feeling the need to post video evidence to prove his honor.
Proving my "honor" never even crossed my mind. I was just posting in an attempt to educate rpm as to what was possible. If you watch the chat in the original video, you'll notice rpm had been going on for quite some time. I had landed a 17 kill sortie immediately prior to the 16 kill sortie, and that was met with the same accusations. Apparently rpm and crew could not comprehend sorties with more than 4 kills.
That is all.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: 49Dallas on July 10, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
The 190D has an extremely lethal gun package. 500 cannons with however many Mgs can wipeout huge heards of Buffalo. The cannons do the job well. One of my favorite gun packages/platforms other than the P38.
500 20mm 2 guns on wings very close to cowling 1000~ 50cal 2 guns in cowel
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: waystin2 on July 10, 2015, 08:07:37 PM
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Getback on July 11, 2015, 07:28:14 AM
I got 8 kills once in about a second when I dropped on a VH spawn hanger. It looked like popcorn.
Nice Skyrr!
Dang those bombers let you come right up their tailpipe.
A couple of weeks ago a bunch of bish bombers all came in at about 4k. I was in a heavy p47d40 looking to drop on some gvs at a neighboring base. Let go of my bombs and rockets and it was a slaughter. Had 15kills with only one being a fighter. There other enemy fighters there but I had no idea what they were doing. I think it was about a half hour or a bit more. Not sure, maybe an hour.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: rpm on October 21, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Grapevine says he is making new friends over in DCS.
lol... he'll have big fun trying his bs "acm" over there.
Title: Re: 16 Kills in under 10 minutes
Post by: Delirium on October 22, 2015, 07:36:42 PM
I think Threeup said it best;
Quote from: Threeup
I think you’ll self-destruct given time which is a pity. I know that if I know you’re around I have to keep one eye back and up. Adds to the game. Co-alt, co-e you’re a non event, you either run or die quickly. Anyway congratulations on your BnZ ability – very impressive. The rest of the skillset needs work.