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Post by: Ratbo on October 25, 2001, 11:18:00 AM
Hi All!!!

Wayne "Ratbo" Canino here. (formerly =B17= and NO - not the guy from the AW2 beta)

I'm still in shock about the impending death of AW. But when we finally come around and learn the games nuances, Dawn and I have a Ploesti scenario in the can just wating to be adapted.

For those clamoring for "more scenarios", remember something.  When AW was at it's *best* there were 2 perhaps 3 good scenarios a year - IF that.  It was part of the decline that saw the constant "scenarios till you barf" approach that cheapened the whole scenario mystique.

It's quality not quantity.     :)

-W
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Post by: Westy MOL on October 25, 2001, 11:32:00 AM
Wayne  :) ! <S>    You old tonnage manipulating master you  :)

<wonders if I should tell em which bunks I short-sheeted.... ;) >

  Westy
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Post by: Ratbo on October 25, 2001, 11:40:00 AM
KILL WESTY!!!

-W
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Post by: Vermillion on October 25, 2001, 12:58:00 PM
Ok Wayne, we MIGHT let you stay here  ;) Just as long as you promise to not wear that sheep costume to the CON.

Anybody know if Jordi is gonna make the conversion?
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Post by: hblair on October 25, 2001, 01:08:00 PM
Welcome abord, glad to have you man. Bring more fodder with ya.  :)
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Post by: Kratzer on October 25, 2001, 01:17:00 PM
Verm, I actually saw someone named Jordi in the MA last night who sounded like he had just arrived...  not that I know him, but anyhoo...
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Post by: CRASH on October 25, 2001, 01:35:00 PM
Former AWer here as well, and yeah, the scenario's we're the most fun you could have in AW but they had some pretty significant problems associated with 'em that really detracted from the experience.  
     They were very difficult to organize and participants spent a huge amount of time getting ready and waiting to take off...really turned alot of people away from them. I'd like to see them designed so that strategically, you werent rewarded for holding people on the ground.
     Aircraft choice was almost non-existent, you had to fly what was assigned and that was it, especially for walk-ons.  Most of the bomber force were frustrated fighter jocks.  
     In my view, having 2 or 3 a year is way too few.  I'd like to see at least one a month, and yes, I would gladly volenteer time to make that happen. If their were more of them then people wouldnt mind flyin the unpopular planes in one if they knew they'd get first crack at the next one.  
     In AH I'd like to see score carried over to the MA score and I'd like to see participants awarded with alot of perkies as a reward for supporting the effort even if ya dont get to fly your first choice.

CRASH

 
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Originally posted by Ratbo:
Hi All!!!

Wayne "Ratbo" Canino here. (formerly =B17= and NO - not the guy from the AW2 beta)

I'm still in shock about the impending death of AW. But when we finally come around and learn the games nuances, Dawn and I have a Ploesti scenario in the can just wating to be adapted.

For those clamoring for "more scenarios", remember something.  When AW was at it's *best* there were 2 perhaps 3 good scenarios a year - IF that.  It was part of the decline that saw the constant "scenarios till you barf" approach that cheapened the whole scenario mystique.

It's quality not quantity.       :)

-W

[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: CRASH ]
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Post by: AN on October 25, 2001, 02:14:00 PM
Ratbo:
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For those clamoring for "more scenarios", remember something.  When AW was at it's *best* there were 2 perhaps 3 good scenarios a year - IF that.  It was part of the decline that saw the constant "scenarios till you barf" approach that cheapened the whole scenario mystique.

It's quality not quantity.      :)
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Hey guy )

Just remember--

in '98 Scenarios didn't start until around June because of AW III just starting, then there was

Target Germany
Guadalcanal
Afrika '42
Kursk

in the last half of the year.

Then the next year was was a real influx of scenarios some of which I missed but included...

Battle of Britain
Sicily
Longbow (with three phases of six frames each, this was three scenarios in one)
Somme
Cartwheel (two phases of five frames each)
Pearl

Sounds like more than '2 or 3 a year, if that' to me.  During the 'decline' of 2000-2001 there were actully fewer scenarios.

anRky
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Post by: Karnak on October 25, 2001, 02:21:00 PM
Verm,

I saw a guy named Jordi on last night.  He was being greeted like an old friend by some other new guys and some older members too.
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Post by: Ratbo on October 25, 2001, 02:34:00 PM
To Crash and Anrky

1. The very nature of a scenario is "you fly what your assigned to fly" and if your a walk-on, it means you didn't sign up so's you take what you gets.

2. Of the second year of your list, only Longbow and Cartwheel were "mega-scenarios" the others were second string type. I flew in them all and was on Command Staff (in one capacity or another) for all but 1. In fact that's what lead to my semi-burnout and forray into EQ.

In the "Golden Age" of AW - scenarios were a "much anticipated" thing - not fly off the shelf events....

IMHO - too many people started running scenarios in AW3 - and it diluted the events.

-W

PS to Verm : Of course the sheep suit comes with me. But reading the boards I see people here "kill" sheep. They need to be taught the finer points of animal husbandry.  :)
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Post by: AN on October 25, 2001, 02:52:00 PM
Ratbo:
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2. Of the second year of your list, only Longbow and Cartwheel were "mega-scenarios" the others were second string type. I flew in them all and was on Command Staff (in one capacity or another) for all but 1. In fact that's what lead to my semi-burnout and forray into EQ.
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Yeah, Longbow and Cartwheel were 'mega-scenarios'

Sicily was I think 5 frames.  BoB was 6.  Somme was WWI, and I think 4 frames, maybe 6.  Pearl was 6.  Not really second string stuff--full blown scenarios if you ask me.

I attended them all, too, except for the one or two I couldn't remember the names (I think one was Midway, a RR scenario)  Even did some walkon herding to help out that year, too.

And, yes, I did get burned out, too.  I was one of the first to scream at DOSE, "ENOUGH!" when he started posting about getting even more going.  But does this mean we should only have one scenario a year here?

anRky
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Post by: Westy MOL on October 25, 2001, 02:58:00 PM
...animal husbandry...

 It's called animal wifery here   :D

 Just ask Nuttz  ;)

   Westy
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Post by: john9001 on October 25, 2001, 03:41:00 PM
Longbow was incredible

my sqd was to fly high cover in p38's, we were to meetup with the b17's over the channel. as we neared the rondy point i saw low dots at 9 o'c, more and more dots, when we were over them i rolled my wing to get a better look, 4k below me was a bomber stream of 50 or 60 b17's all in sqd formations, you could see small groups of escorts at the edges............it looked like something you'd see on the history channel

44MAG
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Post by: MrLars on October 25, 2001, 04:25:00 PM
Please announce your location on open channel at all times Wayne...I gotta get some buff kills on ya befor you figure out how to use them laser cannons  :D
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Post by: Ratbo on October 25, 2001, 05:57:00 PM
LOL  - first I need some TIME to sit down and read the DOCs.

Sheesh! For $15 a month you'd think Dale would send them purty wimmins to my house to teach me the game!  

-W
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Post by: Seeker on October 25, 2001, 07:17:00 PM
Get in line, Lars, get in line.....

Now we just need Hanky!
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Post by: Dago on October 25, 2001, 11:43:00 PM
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 LOL - first I need some TIME to sit down and read the DOCs.

Already you may be my hero!  It seems 99% of the new players never read the manual, they just go online and ask 40 questions an hour.

A new player who actually read the help files is a welcome addition to be sure.

Glad to have ya aboard
dago
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Post by: Vermillion on October 26, 2001, 07:02:00 AM
Heheh anyone got any of those old AW CON pics of the "fluffy" suit?  :D

 
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PS to Verm : Of course the sheep suit comes with me. But reading the boards I see people here "kill" sheep. They need to be taught the finer points of animal husbandry.

Muhahahaha you just missed this years AH CON. For the "Evil CON Mission" this year, ooops wait Dale wanted it to be the "Friendly CON Mission"  :p , the sheep finally got their revenge.....

Night of the Killer Commando Ninja Sheep !

It was really fun driving a sheep that could do 90mph, turn on a dime, be ninja stealthy (no icons), and was armed with twin hyper ROF's .50's, and a ton of ammo.

Seeing those little white dots zippping around an enemy base, vulching planes on takeoff and landing, and then when they drew fire, do a quick stop and "hide" in the herds of the domestic sheep (the normal ground clutter).

CLASSIC !  :)
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Post by: texter on October 26, 2001, 11:05:00 AM
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Originally posted by john9001:
Longbow was incredible

better look, 4k below me was a bomber stream of 50 or 60 b17's all in sqd formations,

44MAG

Wish I could remember what the icons were set to but I doubt you saw 50-60. Would that we could have. It MAY have been set to 48 but I think that's high.

Tex
don't suppose Rex reads here?

oh yeah

UBB SUCKS PURPLE MONKEY BALLS!
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Post by: SB on October 26, 2001, 11:15:00 AM
Damn Tex,

You think that wine swilling, brat chasing, poor excuse for an FW driver can read?

You've been hitting the wacky weed again!
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Post by: texter on October 26, 2001, 11:20:00 AM
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Originally posted by SB:
Damn Tex,

You think that wine swilling, brat chasing, poor excuse for an FW driver can read?

You've been hitting the wacky weed again!

DoH!

What was I thinking?

Tex
don't answer that

UBB SUCKS PURPLE MONKEY BALLS!