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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lerxst on August 03, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
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hello everyone!, just thinking about this last night while in LW, is there a reason the name of the guy who shoots you down needs to be shown,why can't it just be left at P 51 has shot you down,perhaps it would ease up on some of the constant fighting and name calling,and calling guys out during the game,i could see after you get back to base the text buffer showing "whoever" landed 5 kills in a P 51D.did anyone in real battle ever know who was gunning for them? I would think it would allow guys to just concentrate on playing the game not so much seeking revenge across a map to seek out one person and gang up on them,again just my humble opinion,cant wait for AH3! :airplane:
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What kills you, makes you stronger.
JGroth
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With respect, Sir, sometimes it's beneficial to know who shot you down so that you might communicate with them on a private channel and ask them how they shot you down. Aces High has a strong base of players who are willing to share their knowledge with you, and many of these players are willing to Wing with you to help you learn.
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hello everyone!, just thinking about this last night while in LW, is there a reason the name of the guy who shoots you down needs to be shown,why can't it just be left at P 51 has shot you down,perhaps it would ease up on some of the constant fighting and name calling,and calling guys out during the game,i could see after you get back to base the text buffer showing "whoever" landed 5 kills in a P 51D.did anyone in real battle ever know who was gunning for them? I would think it would allow guys to just concentrate on playing the game not so much seeking revenge across a map to seek out one person and gang up on them,again just my humble opinion,cant wait for AH3! :airplane:
Could even take it a step further and remove player names from the film viewer. Just have the type of planes only.
That would stop a lot of the b.s.
Coogan
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My personal experience is that knowing who shot me down results in way more positive interaction than negative.
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For revenge. :furious
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My personal experience is that knowing who shot me down results in way more positive interaction than negative.
Agreed. One time a month or so ago, KB and I got into a nice fight. Don't remember who turned out to win, but afterwards we held 4-5 more impromptu fights, after exchanging some PMs. I have to say, I've never had more fun in Aces High than the night KB and I fought for an hour 5 or 6 times. :airplane:
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With respect, Sir, sometimes it's beneficial to know who shot you down so that you might communicate with them on a private channel and ask them how they shot you down. Aces High has a strong base of players who are willing to share their knowledge with you, and many of these players are willing to Wing with you to help you learn.
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removing 200 would be a better idea.
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removing 200 would be a better idea.
Same as my last response. For me, 200 has resulted in more positive interaction than negative. I am also free to detune it. I would like to see more appropriate behavior on 200, but the only way to achieve that is turning up the moderation which can have effects worse than having to skim over the purse fights as they scroll by.
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For revenge. :furious
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My personal experience is that knowing who shot me down results in way more positive interaction than negative.
Same as my last response. For me, 200 has resulted in more positive interaction than negative. I am also free to detune it. I would like to see more appropriate behavior on 200, but the only way to achieve that is turning up the moderation which can have effects worse than having to skim over the purse fights as they scroll by.
So, having 200 removed would have no effect on you and you could still enjoy that personal experience of direct contact with whoever shot you down via PM.
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i totally understand the wanting to ask the shooter how they did it,and for the most part im answered with smartass answers,and stuff like you died cause you were easy,followed by the instant abuse by the guy on all channel or pm texts talking stupid trash for no reason other than they got a kill on you,so yes i'd love to walk through a scenario where if i get shot down,and i say to the person,do you mind explaining how you did that and to get a thoughtful explanation. :salute
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So, having 200 removed would have no effect on you and you could still enjoy that personal experience of direct contact with whoever shot you down via PM.
Maybe 1/4 - 1/2 of the positive interaction I have on 200 has to do with someone I'm fighting. Lots of it is just joking with other players, using it to find fights, etc.. I get that its often filled up with silly immature behavior and I realize that can have negative effects on the game. But for me, 200 is more good than bad.
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Some of you guys realize you can DETUNE 200, right? :noid
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I miss the days when the chat buffer would announce "player x shot down player Y" with their kill count behind it. :D
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No, knowing who the picking hi P51 or spawn camper is just fires you up more to go get em. Better still when you find some spawn camper with 20+ kills and then drop a bomb on his head and get that 200 whine or private message of outrage. I just live for that.
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I miss the days when the chat buffer would announce "player x shot down player Y" with their kill count behind it. :D
It was even better back in WBs when the buffer would announce who was logging in or out. It made the alt-f4 prank that much more fun. :aok
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So you know who to salute.
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Nothing will help the BS. It's human nature. Simply try not to be offended by bickering, garbage and drama. No need to recode anything, change settings or other reactive efforts. Just deal.
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Most of the reasons have been told, but you also wondered whether the real life pilots knew who might have shot them down. Well, it depended on the policy of the country the pilot flew for. If one was shot down by a P51, the pilot might have been anybody. If the shooter was a German plane, many of the aces had recognizable planes. Skill is not the only reason why the best US ace "only" had 40 kills while the best German ace had 352 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_flying_aces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_flying_aces))
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Lerxst, if you allow the poor sports to dictate how you conduct yourself then you will unfortunately become one of them. I know it's hard to ignore them because they are the most vociferous, but there are not more of them playing. If you want to be a good sport then follow the example of the many good sports here and simply ignore the poor sports.
When you do this, you will want to know who you killed and who killed you because it adds to the community of the game.
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removing 200 would be a better idea.
You do know that players have to tune to this channel? so if you don't like it don't tune to it. Get rid of 200 then it just changes channel number and away it goes again.
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In AW there wasn't a system message that told you who shot you down but that never stopped the mud slinging.
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i totally understand the wanting to ask the shooter how they did it,and for the most part im answered with smartass answers,and stuff like you died cause you were easy,followed by the instant abuse by the guy on all channel or pm texts talking stupid trash for no reason other than they got a kill on you,so yes i'd love to walk through a scenario where if i get shot down,and i say to the person,do you mind explaining how you did that and to get a thoughtful explanation. :salute
Not once have I had a smartass response to a post fight whisper to the other player, regardless of if he or I won the fight.
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If we didn't know who the other players were we would be unable to ridicule them when they lose or make excuses when the win. Also stalking would be much harder.
But seriously it makes it feel like I'm not playing against a computer, though some players make me feel that way anyway.
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No, knowing who the picking hi P51 or spawn camper is just fires you up more to go get em. Better still when you find some spawn camper with 20+ kills and then drop a bomb on his head and get that 200 whine or private message of outrage. I just live for that.
My personal favorite is from the mudhens trying to kill the TigerII when he finally gets far enough away to land his kills.
mudhen: "What? Your [sic] just gone?"
Chalenge: "Yeah, thanks for all the fish."
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I miss the days when the chat buffer would announce "player x shot down player Y" with their kill count behind it.
I miss that too, every kill was logged for all to see - it made figuring out the fights on 200 much easier, as you knew who had just killed whom.
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yeah make it more anonymous.. because anonymity is a great force for good behavior in games, and also encourages a strong community.. :rolleyes:
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removing 200 would be a better idea.
Could always go back to the default channel. Remember being on 200 is a choice.
Get rid if 200 and yanno what happens. Everyone tunes to 300 and we start this all over again
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For me 200 makes the game way more fun..the game was fun when I first started..then it went up a notch when I downloaded the sound pack..then when I discovered 200 it was a great platform for fun banter and I use it as a tool...most of the time..Lol as far as the in game id notification of a kill or being killed..when I see I've been shot down I want to know who it is they've earned it I salute most of the time, regardless how they killed me..(vulching, HO, pick, RUNWAY CAMPING MANO! Lol, spawn camped, bombed, proxys or just out flown or better shot) I want the credit when I kill and I want them geTting the credit when I die Imho <S>
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How many times on range do you hear " who was that " we all want to know.
If the game becomes wussified, it would just turn into Microsoft FSX.
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In AW there wasn't a system message that told you who shot you down but that never stopped the mud slinging.
However there was an arena system message stating that """goober" has been shot down" right next to the victors personnel text line showing " A kill has been recorded". Just incase there was any doubt this was usually followed by the victors kill macro.
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However there was an arena system message stating that """goober" has been shot down" right next to the victors personnel text line showing " A kill has been recorded". Just incase there was any doubt this was usually followed by the victors kill macro.
But it never showed who shot you down, to find that out you had to look at the AAR in the O'club.
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AH is a social game as much as it is a combat flight simulator. I would have been playing the same bloody game for 15 years had it been otherwise.
AH is a community of players - not 3 communities of chess pieces. The veteran players know each other regardless of the chess piece the currently happen to play for. Hopping countries to play together with players you like that happen to be online is common among the veterans. The opposite is also common where a player jumps country to attack his buddies and all in good humor.
Knowing who you play against allow you to start a conversation with them and get to know them. Then a short time after you find yourselves on the same side and it is fun to cooperate for a change. The kill message is both an introduction and an "I am here" message. Without it you will not get to know 2/3 of the players on your time zone.
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AH is a social game as much as it is a combat flight simulator. I would have been playing the same bloody game for 15 years had it been otherwise.
AH is a community of players - not 3 communities of chess pieces. The veteran players know each other regardless of the chess piece the currently happen to play for. Hopping countries to play together with players you like that happen to be online is common among the veterans. The opposite is also common where a player jumps country to attack his buddies and all in good humor.
Knowing who you play against allow you to start a conversation with them and get to know them. Then a short time after you find yourselves on the same side and it is fun to cooperate for a change. The kill message is both an introduction and an "I am here" message. Without it you will not get to know 2/3 of the players on your time zone.
experienced this Tonight when splash01 and lefty were bish..had a blast getting to know them .
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But it never showed who shot you down, to find that out you had to look at the AAR in the O'club.
There was an element of mystery... Excepting when your death was followed by the Kill Macro of the arbiter of your demise.
In AH this would lessen the impact of kill collecting without finishing folk off. It's clear that some pepper an opponent to be finished by others who only collect an assist.
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Agreed. One time a month or so ago, KB and I got into a nice fight. Don't remember who turned out to win, but afterwards we held 4-5 more impromptu fights, after exchanging some PMs. I have to say, I've never had more fun in Aces High than the night KB and I fought for an hour 5 or 6 times. :airplane:
This is true, very weird but beneficial 40 minutes of game time. We matched sticks between his 109 and my jug for a few goes, then I switched over to match his ride and we proceeded to duel in the LWMA. It was a great divergence from normal gameplay to learn a few strengths and weaknesses of aircraft. :salute Sir, was an enjoyable evening made possible by private messages and having seen who killed who... :airplane:
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With respect, Sir, sometimes it's beneficial to know who shot you down so that you might communicate with them on a private channel and ask them how they shot you down. Aces High has a strong base of players who are willing to share their knowledge with you, and many of these players are willing to Wing with you to help you learn.
Always been this way. Also keep your films and review them like you would your last football game and see where you messed up at, Its something I use to do. And quite honestly I need to start doing again my 1v1 has gotten terrible im an opportunistic killer my defence sucks bricks at the moment.
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If it makes you feel better I rarely care who I shot down or who shoots me down. I will try to learn from that experience though.
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Unfortunately, there are some who act the child because they got bested. Fortunately there are few in the game that act badly. I have seen many a good kill texted between two pilots after a fight to understand that for the most part its a positive environment here.
As someone suggested you can block anyone who acts like a dope, so where you might feel that its not realistic game play, its about generating a community environment of fun and cordial behavior, which for the most part exists here.
Most peeps say garbage because there is a pc between them and the other. Most say garbage because there is no upshot, most would choose different words if things were face to face, they might get B-slapped otherwise.
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Some of you guys realize you can DETUNE 200, right? :noid
I did just that!!! :aok smartest thing I did...
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I think it would pretty boring not to know who killed you and who you killed...it would be more like an arcade game that
you just shoot at things.
200 is pure entertainment...why would you want to detune? lol
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Unfortunately, there are some who act the child because they got bested. Fortunately there are few in the game that act badly. I have seen many a good kill texted between two pilots after a fight to understand that for the most part its a positive environment here.
As someone suggested you can block anyone who acts like a dope, so where you might feel that its not realistic game play, its about generating a community environment of fun and cordial behavior, which for the most part exists here.
Most peeps say garbage because there is a pc between them and the other. Most say garbage because there is no upshot, most would choose different words if things were face to face, they might get B-slapped otherwise.
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I think it's a side effect of the "not my fault" generation.
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Turn ur channel 200 off, will solve ur personal problem with name callings... :rolleyes:
hello everyone!, just thinking about this last night while in LW, is there a reason the name of the guy who shoots you down needs to be shown,why can't it just be left at P 51 has shot you down,perhaps it would ease up on some of the constant fighting and name calling,and calling guys out during the game,i could see after you get back to base the text buffer showing "whoever" landed 5 kills in a P 51D.did anyone in real battle ever know who was gunning for them? I would think it would allow guys to just concentrate on playing the game not so much seeking revenge across a map to seek out one person and gang up on them,again just my humble opinion,cant wait for AH3! :airplane:
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I think it's a side effect of the "not my fault" generation.
LOL this has been going on longer than our generation.
It is merely a side effect of the Online gaming persona. I can say anything over the intardnet and feel big and bad with my skillzz and no one knows who I really am.
P.S It would literally kill me inside if I didn't know who shot me down and a long entertaining fight, or something like that.
The key is, most people are going to talk chit. You just have to tell them they are dipchits and then squelch them.
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Turn ur channel 200 off, will solve ur personal problem with name callings... :rolleyes:
A long as there is cross country PM, the chance for nastiness is still there.
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so we can talk toejam
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Hitech has solved so many things with dot commands.
.WhoKiltMe
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I think it would pretty boring not to know who killed you and who you killed...it would be more like an arcade game that
you just shoot at things.
200 is pure entertainment...why would you want to detune? lol
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Oh, I know... I can tell you this, that chan is addictive as Hell! :evil: Almost as bad as 4Chan... :P