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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrKrabs on August 12, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
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Standard moan-fest...
People want jobs and don't want to work them...
People sit there and wonder why they get their hours cut or flat-out fired when any of the following...
A) Constantly Call-out
B) Constantly Demand Certain Days Off
C) Be A Living Decoration
But I have to thank them... I appreciate yet another 70-hour week and learning new names for new hires... I think I should just give people numbers and not learn names"
Crabbeh Crab Will Go Faceplant Into Pillow Now...
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Glad I work from home now. Ya I take an hour or two break during the day to relax my mind. I was also up at 4 am working on a project and just wrapped up for the day because I got a flash of inspiration when I went to Wally world for trash bags and beer and couldn't let it go until I got it on paper and the calculations run on it.
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I work at a steel mill. 30 bucks an hour. I can do all the jobs in the department but our planner decided that the best way for me to help the company was to pick up trash in one of the yards.
so I found me a nice place and took an 8 hour nap. I am not lazy, but if the planner wants me to earn my money by doing nothing then I'll do nothing.
semp
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Get one of those take a number things and for each new hire, pin the number on them. Easy peasy :)
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Get one of those take a number things and for each new hire, pin the number on them. Easy peasy :)
I'll just write it on their foreheads with a magic marker...
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Glad I work from home now. Ya I take an hour or two break during the day to relax my mind. I was also up at 4 am working on a project and just wrapped up for the day because I got a flash of inspiration when I went to Wally world for trash bags and beer and couldn't let it go until I got it on paper and the calculations run on it.
I work from home as well...my buddies bust my nuts saying how cushy it is.....I have to remind them that when they leave their job for the day they're done......me, I'm always at the office
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I work because its the best way to get what I want, in return.
It doesn't hurt that my job is totally awesome.
It also didn't hurt that I decided what I wanted to do at age 10, so I actually focused my childhood and early adult efforts into getting what I wanted, instead of into drugs and getting young women pregnant. Its not the only way to do this "life" thing, but a little focus and self control early in my life has paid off for me in a huge way. 8 years of effort (high school and college) has led to 21 years of an awesome job and a nice paycheck with some benefits.
Of course, its easier to be miserable and blame everyone else for every little impulse that isn't immediately satisfied, but I'll leave that to the 99%.
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It is kind of shocking how lazy the majority of the current generation is though. I have seen at least 2 new hires in the last 2 years get fired because they simply did not want to work. The last one would go in the bathroom and stay there for at least 15 minutes at least 10 times a day. I counted. If I'm going to screw off for an entire afternoon, I can think of alot better ways to do it than to sit in a 4 X 5 cinder block bathroom with no A/C when it's 100+ degrees outside.
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Well in America and probably Europe you really dont need to work. I know people who have never worked a day in their lives who live in a better house then me. Have a better car, certainly less stress. First there's welfare, then some SSI for the back pain. Theres law suite scams of various types. "Scams" of various types. Stuff like selling pirated CDs and DVDs, or, being the neighborhood "boot man".
Someone gets their car booted call the boot man before the tow truck gets there. He prys the boot off, gets paid, and then sells the metal boot for cash. Theres a million little scams like this. No SSN #, no taxes, all cash. With the sucker taxpayer paying all your housing, education, medical bills to boot.
Taxpayers like me...like you...are suckers. There is a better way. Hell even a bi-year donut beating from the Po-Po settlement is better then working full time. And they just hand it over, anything to avoid their own bad press and lawyer bills.
We even pay the bills for people who blow us up. Ask the family of those Boston marathon jerk-offs.
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I work from home as well...my buddies bust my nuts saying how cushy it is.....I have to remind them that when they leave their job for the day they're done......me, I'm always at the office
Yep.
Julie was busting my testicles today when I was taking a break from staring at a spreadsheet and designing light poles under the 2013 AASHTO code. My parents think 'well he works from home so we can call him any time'. Love them all but they don't get the whole 'hey I have an idea' moment when your subconscious kicks in and you really can't be interrupted. I 'work' from the moment I get up until I shut stuff down for the night and that's usually 4 am till 10 pm. I may not appear to be doing anything but my mind is always engaged in 'how can I make this better?'
Had a WTF moment today in fact that will make the proposal developers jobs pretty much cut and paste instead of having to think.
I've been working on that since since 3 pm.
Now it's time to mommy up to the pillow.
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I've pretty much always worked labouring, always loved it. But that's about to change. Just accepted a job on a skydiving dropzone in the south of Spain. Dream job, or at least, the doorway to my dream job. Starting that in about 2-3 weeks. Pretty happy and excited for the new chapter.
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People are rubbish :old:
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For most people work is a way of earning money. Not a lifestyle choice. When I started working as a naïve eighteen year old. I was naïve enough to think working hard and doing your best was the way forward. I soon learned the truth. One day in my first job after working flat out and missing breaks etc. I sat down for a moment only for the boss to appear and bawl me out for doing nothing. The total p**** didn't notice or care how hard I worked. I was a number to him. Too much BS and lousy pay.
My last 'job' was pretty much the same. The owner is a business psychopath. He doesn't understand why people who work for him don't share his dream. Maybe if he shared some of the profit we might. So I worked the hours, gave up holidays, missed family events and put up with his rants as he developed the business while working for the kind of money that no one could survive on. All in the hope that when everything came good. I would be appropriately rewarded. I was to be sorely disappointed. It was to be same for others who worked for him. The trail of bodies left in his wake is amazing and he never understood why everyone fought with him and left. One guy grabbed him by the throat and threatened to kill him.
So I stepped away eventually but now work for him on my own terms in my own time.
Lucky are those for whom life and work are the same thing. But most work to make a living no more no less.
My main job/life now is to look after my kids as a stay at home Dad. So far the lowest paid job I've ever had with the longest hours. But still the best I've ever had. I honestly don't think I could ever go back to a 'real' job. I've had too many idiot bosses in my resume.
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'well he works from home so we can call him any time', that is the mentality of most clock punchers and wage slaves.
Best move I ever made was closing the fancy suite in the high rent district, firing the employees and working from home, been pretty much like retirement for 28 years.
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I was working 9 and 10 days straight during swing shift by myself. that's when we get the most work. on weekends I also had to do the leader's position in addition to my regular work. it's hard to work outside at a steel mill when it's over 100 degrees. I didnt complain, I just did the work as best and fast as I could. I ended up getting so dehydrated I ended up having to go to the doctor on my day off. next day i missed work. I was wrote up for being the 3rd time I missed work in 6 months.
I told my boss, to take me off doing the extra work and I was gonna go back to my regular work. Now my regular job gets completed in about 15 or 20 minutes a day and I get to stay inside.
I like to work, but I am not gonna risk my job over it.
semp
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crabby you still love people never let go of that...
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Of course, its easier to be miserable and blame everyone else for every little impulse that isn't immediately satisfied, but I'll leave that to the 99%.
You still do that, you just focus it all on General Aviation pilots.
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Glad I work from home now. Ya I take an hour or two break during the day to relax my mind. I was also up at 4 am working on a project and just wrapped up for the day because I got a flash of inspiration when I went to Wally world for trash bags and beer and couldn't let it go until I got it on paper and the calculations run on it.
You and I have the same lifestyle. Same career maybe? PE? I wouldn't trade this for the world. :cheers:
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You still do that, you just focus it all on General Aviation pilots.
You're a whiny ignorant little baby aren't you? Twits like you who ignore people with 27 years of civilian and military aviation experience and who have had both formal safety investigation training and over 20 years of routine immersion in aviation safety culture, are the reason why so damn many stupid stuck-up ignorant and lazy pilots die every year in completely preventable accidents.
File a flight plan. Get a good weather briefing and back it up with your own resources online. Manually check your freaking fuel for quantity and contamination at EVERY stop. Turn your radio on and keep it tuned to a frequency where you might gain some awareness of what else is going on in the world around you. Turn your transponder on even when in uncontrolled airspace. Read the freaking chart and avoid high volume training areas, both civilian and military, unless you're participating in the training yourself. And for crying out loud take a little responsibility for your own life by actually ensuring you'll safely complete your flight, instead of merely complying with the minimum required by the rules and hoping it'll all turn out ok and the other guy will save your lazy butt.
Or don't. Its your funeral, not mine.
Edit - most of this I learned before I logged a single minute in military aircraft, because I had 2 instructors who were GOOD and I learned to fly in San Diego, one of the most complicated airspace volumes I've ever flown in. I had no choice but to do things right otherwise I'd have been dead a hundred times over before I even got my license.
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I get the sense most of you don't have jobs, you have careers in which you work with people who have actual jobs.
As a line cook, I'm making about $12/hr. I close daily, which means I leave when everything is done. If we get some late table that sticks till 10:00, I don't get off till 11:00, which means I don't get home until midnight. Do I get overtime? Yeah, but you can bet your sweet arse it's only because our owner is legally required to give it to me. How do I know that? We're numbers to him. We've got guys that have worked there for 5 years, and he still doesn't know their names. We get $10 Walmart gift cards with our identical, typed, and (literally) rubber-stamped Christmas cards. He doesn't even come to the party he is nominally hosting.
Do I mind that much? No, I barely interact with the guy. What really pisses me off is that, when you really get down to it, it's my fault that I get sick and need to take a day off. F**k me for using our insurance. I should be perfectly happy to work on my girlfriend's birthday since it's just like any other day, but then I have to tell our bakery crew he wants a three layer cake for his own birthday, and they need to get it done, nevermind the wedding we're doing.
After all that, is it any wonder I really don't care if the guys I'm in charge of screw around a bit? Is it any wonder I milk my smoke breaks for everything they're worth? Of course, if one of the guys calls me up early, I'm flying up those stairs. We're all in it together, and we take care of each other. But I don't feel the slightest bit guilty for being payed to sit on my arse for a few minutes; he owes the entire kitchen staff a hell of a lot more than that.
None of us give a single damn about his profit margin, because he doesn't give a damn about us. I'm privy to some things I'm not officially supposed to know, but let me say we could triple the pay of every staff member, our GM included, and the guy could still buy another one of his fully original Thunderbirds every year with his spending money.
Bottom line, upper management makes no effort to make us care about how well the place does, does an insultingly trivial job of trying to make us feel appreciated, and really feels we exist solely to make their profit margin.
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I worked a factory job for almost 2 years. It was a joke. The place was a joke. The management was a joke. The insurance was a joke. The union was a joke. I'm 6'4" with scoliosis and there were so many times where I had to run punch presses that were too awkward for me to sit at and with very stiff pedals. For 10 hours. Tried seeing if a doctor would talk to them about it but the doctor just gave me bills.
I have no friends outside of my house. I don't know anyone, haven't known anyone, moved around with my family all my life, my back keeps me from lifting too much too long, so no one wants to hire me. Tried getting into college but there was no way I was going to afford it, especially without a job. Probably couldn't even with one.
A lot has happened since then and now I'm unemployed. My brother recently got a job at a Kwik Trip and they seem like great people to work with, unfortunately right now I'm the only one who can drive people around from home when they need to, so for now I planted my bellybutton at home to take care of my disabled wife who's on SSI.
Not much to complain about. I get to see my wife and play games pretty much all day every day. Sometimes I feel guilty about not working, but then I remember just taking care of my wife should be something to be proud of. Not to mention how hard it would be to get a decent job in the first place.
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I feel for you Mar. I have a disabled brother, and my parents aren't getting any younger.
I worry every day about what we're going to do for him when they pass away. Unless something changes, we won't have the money to take care of him, especially not if we ever want kids of our own, and for them to have any kind of future.
And I really don't want to put him in a group home. His disability means he's very particular, and easily upset if routine is broken, and sometimes violent. Not out of malevolence, or anger, mind. He just can't handle his emotions, and has temper tantrums. But in my nightmares, I see Of Mice and Men.
And he won't speak up if someone is mean to him. All we can get out of him is "nevermind. It's fine".
He's not fit to work a job, and all that keeps him happy are his 10 year old video games, children's shows on YouTube and Netflix, and playing with the dog. It's not much, but it's really all he has. He doesn't have the coordination to play sports. He doesn't have the awareness to express it as such, but I think he's living vicariously through some of the characters. And it breaks my heart that if we're not very lucky, we won't even be able to give him that.
Alright, venting over. I'm going to go cry myself to sleep now.
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I work because I need to pay to live. An exchange of goods and services. Capitalism. I work, they pay, I live. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Many people today think they are entitled to get a job from someone else, and a job that's "meaningful" and "fulfilling". No one's entitled to anything.
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I "baby sit" grown men who were convicted of felanous crimes depending on the night its either 229 of them and me or 288 of them and me...you learn alot in prison lol
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You're a whiny ignorant little baby aren't you? Twits like you who ignore people with 27 years of civilian and military aviation experience and who have had both formal safety investigation training and over 20 years of routine immersion in aviation safety culture, are the reason why so damn many stupid stuck-up ignorant and lazy pilots die every year in completely preventable accidents.
File a flight plan. Get a good weather briefing and back it up with your own resources online. Manually check your freaking fuel for quantity and contamination at EVERY stop. Turn your radio on and keep it tuned to a frequency where you might gain some awareness of what else is going on in the world around you. Turn your transponder on even when in uncontrolled airspace. Read the freaking chart and avoid high volume training areas, both civilian and military, unless you're participating in the training yourself. And for crying out loud take a little responsibility for your own life by actually ensuring you'll safely complete your flight, instead of merely complying with the minimum required by the rules and hoping it'll all turn out ok and the other guy will save your lazy butt.
Or don't. Its your funeral, not mine.
Edit - most of this I learned before I logged a single minute in military aircraft, because I had 2 instructors who were GOOD and I learned to fly in San Diego, one of the most complicated airspace volumes I've ever flown in. I had no choice but to do things right otherwise I'd have been dead a hundred times over before I even got my license.
Are you supposed to be drinking that much on a weeknight? It threw up a red flag when three out of four of your posts referred to GA pilots as "idiots" in a certain thread.
Basically what I am trying to say is that your juvenile comments totally invalidated your (probably) valid points on aircraft traffic. Just like in this thread.
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What annoys me are people who manage to get a permanent sign off from work and live on benefits for their entire lives for no bloody good reason. Anyone with a physical impairment has a valid reason. A large number of mental impairments are valid too, however, in this country there are sooooooo many people on permanent benefits due to being 'bi-polar'. Now I know a couple of people who are actually bi-polar and it certainly can be a debilitating condition......but the great majority of those diagnosed with it are not really bi-polar, they're just bad tempered tossers who need a bloody good hiding every day like they should have gotten during childhood.
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You and I have the same lifestyle. Same career maybe? PE? I wouldn't trade this for the world. :cheers:
Designer and outside sales actually. I wish I had thought about being a PE when I was young. I've worked with the same PE off and on for over 20 years though. Getting a stamp on one of my designs is pretty much a formality these days.
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Grin,
I am finishing up twenty years in Tech Ops FAA. Thirty years over all Gov service, I have about six months left and am retiring to continue my writing carrier. (My wife and I write alternate history. Get paid pro rates for it grin.)
In my field (FV-2101 National Airways System Specialist) we are having a hard time finding enough personal candidates that have the skills need to do the job. The job spans running a four megawatt power plant, to installing new equipment, to rebuilding HVAC chillers and boilers, computers, industrial automation, communications, and much much more. No one coming into the job has it all and training can take years. Our current new hires are far behind the curve and are extending the time to certification even longer.
It would really help if the schools taught real skills in place of robot Lego wars....
Regards,
Kevin (Gunnss)
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It would really help if the schools taught real skills in place of robot Lego wars....
I'll have you know some people like robot Lego wars.
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I have no problem with robot Lego wars, it is just that such training will not keep the power on for the controllers, when some drunk has crashed in to the power pole.
I have engine generators that need cat walks on them to reach the controls, my main power bus is 480 volts at 10,000 amps, the whole system is a DRT equipment. Dead right there, it will kill you if you let your attention wander.
Real skills, we need them.
Regards,
Kevin (Gunnss)
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I'll bet no one here's had as varied a rollercoaster ride as I've had in my working career. Hold on to your hats:
Seed Salesman - When I was very young I sold flower and vegetable seeds door to door from a catalog company for prizes. Mom bought most of them and I'm not sure I remember ever winning a prize.
City Labor - Teenage outdoor summer work to earn a few bucks.
Bass Guitarist - In a band all through high school. Three piece core with periodic additions. Guitarist/Lead singer's father/accountant ran the business and we got monthly balance sheets and P&L's. Free beer for under-aged members playing the bar/sorority/fraternity circuit.
Forest Service Labor - Work study leading to college. They'd fly us into the Boundary Waters canoe area via Beaver float planes on Monday morning and fly us home from a different lake on Friday afternoons for the weekend. During the week our three man crew built and maintained campsites and portages, canoed white water, fished, camped and relaxed. Best job ever for $4.50/hour.
Janitor - I left for college and needed money. It took two hours to do the job and I got paid for four and could do it any time as long as it was done once a day. Perfect college job.
Janitor - Not sure how/why I ended up in this one but it was taking care of a Sears store. I left for lunch at noon my first day and never went back.
Junk Mail Delivery Guy - Paid by the piece door to door. You could make decent money with a good route (closely packed homes) but those bags were heavy loaded up. I, of course, got the route through the most expensive, most widely spaced homes in the city on occasion.
Record Store employee leading to Record Store Manager - I left college for this job. My best friend hired me. It was destiny. I left after a heart to heart with the owner. There was no where left for me to go and I wanted more.
Record Store employee - Got an opportunity with a multi-location shop with a chance to grow until my old boss bought them out.
Warehouse Employee leading to VP of Sales and Marketing plus Director of IT and overseeing manufacturing and shipping (and anything else that needed to be done) - Music and computer software distribution company. I was on a role; big bucks, stock options, executive suites. I married my secretary and exited the company.
Owner, Record Label and Entertainment Marketing Company - Well, company is a misnomer. It was just me. I made good money in marketing but spent it on the label. My wife made me go back to work after two years to actually make money.
Sr Marketing Manager - Moved to NY and ran the internet unit for a major retailer. Maybe the most fun job I've ever had. Back to big money, stock options, meetings at Goldman Sachs, private planes, etc., etc.
VP Business Development = Great concept company trying to intertwine TV with the Internet. I was primarily a liaison with the entertainment industry. Investors pulled the plug after distribution wasn't secured. Most pure money I've ever made but the fun was fading.
Sr Operations Manager - Multi-location boat and RV dealership. I was a fish out of water from both an economic scale and an industry background perspective and didn't last long.
Sales Manager - Consumer computer and golf show promoter. I'd moved from NY to MN in the midst of a divorce with no where to live and no job so had to take the first thing that came along. This was a cash business preying on the lowest common denominator in terms of both attendees and vendors. It made me feel dirty.
Sales - This was with an company that drummed up leads for Fortune 500 companies. I learned a lot about a lot of different industries but the owner was raping the clients and it all ended with the great recession.
Sales - After over a year off I went to work for a Fortune 500 financial services firm doing sales. The work is satisfying and I like to think I'm helping people but the pay and the atmosphere are crummy.
I may have forgotten a few along the way. I'm also not sure why I keep getting these sales jobs because I'm really not that good at it. Mom? Marketing yes, operations maybe, sales; not so much.
I've moved around a lot. Done a lot of different things. Been a laborer and an executive. Made money and not made money. I see the benefits of a steady course in a more stable line of work but life's a journey. Embrace today for what it is. Tomorrow will happen tomorrow but, a word to those in their 30's and 40's; you're likely in the peak earning years of your career. Save now because you don't know what tomorrow will bring.
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My goal is a stable retirement. With what I currently do (OK D.O.C) I fall under a 20year retirement plan. If I do my first 5 years in uniform (officer) then I can change career paths and maintain my 20 year plan and also gain experience in another career field. I will retire from working for the state at the age of 44. I can still start a second career at that age and by 65 be rolling in dough. Or land a job with great paychecks but cruddy retirement and just have fun with the big bucks and do that till im burnt out and am ready to truely retire.
Start planning young keep your options open and have something to fall back on. As a youngster I was always told this. Any of these old farts will agree with me on this.
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I started working at the ripe old age of 7 shoveling horse manure. I have driven truck,driven a forklift, worked as a dept manager , was a chef for twelve years and finished my career as a shipping manager.. I say finished because I came down with Diabetic nerve pain so bad that I cannot walk . I have Guilliam Barre Syndrome, Arthritis in both knees and severe back problems .. Just last week my doctor told me it is not if I am going to lose my feet it is when I am going to.. I have been on disability for five years now and it sucks. I was always working . Working hard every day. I was a good employee, at least I thought I was. I would rather work right now than anything else . I can not afford real food and am unable to take care of my family like I want.
So with all that said, Please be thankful for every lousy job you all have. You never know what is in store and I really hate to see any of you end up like me. My life is not what I expected but I am making the best of it . That is all I can do.
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I worked a factory job for almost 2 years. It was a joke. The place was a joke. The management was a joke. The insurance was a joke. The union was a joke. I'm 6'4" with scoliosis and there were so many times where I had to run punch presses that were too awkward for me to sit at and with very stiff pedals. For 10 hours. Tried seeing if a doctor would talk to them about it but the doctor just gave me bills.
I have no friends outside of my house. I don't know anyone, haven't known anyone, moved around with my family all my life, my back keeps me from lifting too much too long, so no one wants to hire me. Tried getting into college but there was no way I was going to afford it, especially without a job. Probably couldn't even with one.
A lot has happened since then and now I'm unemployed. My brother recently got a job at a Kwik Trip and they seem like great people to work with, unfortunately right now I'm the only one who can drive people around from home when they need to, so for now I planted my bellybutton at home to take care of my disabled wife who's on SSI.
Not much to complain about. I get to see my wife and play games pretty much all day every day. Sometimes I feel guilty about not working, but then I remember just taking care of my wife should be something to be proud of. Not to mention how hard it would be to get a decent job in the first place.
Similar kind of thing as you Mar, I had a decent job with good pay and lots of overtime but stopped doing that so that I could spend more time with my disabled wife. The worst thing for me was I started working part time retail, the first position I had did have insurance for part time workers but when I found a position with my present employer they didn't, so when a full time position became available I had to take that to be able to get treatment for diabetes and other ailments I have.
So now I'm working almost as many hours that I used to work but in a job that doesn't pay anywhere near as well, being well over fifty now though it's almost impossible to get a better job in this area so I try to make the best of it. The Manager I work for is very good at giving me time off for my wife's Doctors visits which are quite frequent over the last few years( on top of her disability she was also diagnosed with breast cancer), we also like to travel doing "Bucket List" trips so I can't complain about the job too much and it was self induced that I took the step down.
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I started working at the ripe old age of 7 shoveling horse manure. I have driven truck,driven a forklift, worked as a dept manager , was a chef for twelve years and finished my career as a shipping manager.. I say finished because I came down with Diabetic nerve pain so bad that I cannot walk . I have Guilliam Barre Syndrome, Arthritis in both knees and severe back problems .. Just last week my doctor told me it is not if I am going to lose my feet it is when I am going to.. I have been on disability for five years now and it sucks. I was always working . Working hard every day. I was a good employee, at least I thought I was. I would rather work right now than anything else . I can not afford real food and am unable to take care of my family like I want.
So with all that said, Please be thankful for every lousy job you all have. You never know what is in store and I really hate to see any of you end up like me. My life is not what I expected but I am making the best of it . That is all I can do.
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I work at a Gas Station, 4 nights a week... 12a-8a... After being out of work for a extended amount of time, I took it because being unemployed, sucks!
Been there 13 years. I could write a Book. Would I take back anything by working at this place? Not on your life. :)