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General Forums => Open Beta Test => Topic started by: ink on September 04, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
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you took me saying it was archaic as an insult?
all that means.... it is old...an old viewing system....
not an insult in anyway...
I certainly did not mean it in a bad way...or even close to being insulting.
You took that entirely wrong.
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Your notion of what is a misunderstanding is archaic.
Even after reading your explanation I still take it as an insult.
HiTech
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Your notion of what is a misunderstanding is archaic.
Even after reading your explanation I still take it as an insult.
HiTech
I cant help that you took what I said as an insult....that is on you not me...that is from your own thoughts NOT mine....
I used the word Archaic as a way of saying it is an Old/ out of date......viewing system...
I am saying to YOU.... Dale...that I did not and was NOT insulting you or your game in any way....that is my WORD of Honor!!!!
I will go so far as to say I am sorry you took it that way....
all I was saying is a viewing system that allows the main point of view to be focused on the plane in the hanger...so when we zoom in... the plane is the main focal point...and then being able to rotate around the plane getting a much better view of plane.
that is all I was asking for.....
I friggen enjoy AH and have for 10 plus years....to think that you feel I was insulting you boggles my mind....
hell man there has been only one change to AH... that I don't personally like....
once again I will say I apologize you took what I said as an insult...it certainly wasn't meant that way.
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First I do not in any way believe the view system in the hanger is in any way old and out dated.
It's purpose is not to view the airplane, it's purpose is to show you what plane you selected, and be able to select items in the hanger.
I understand your wish to be able to view the planes. And that could be added with out any change to the very CURRENT view system who's PRIMARY purpose is to select ordinance, fuel, set convergences and select gun positions. And NOT to view the planes from every angle.
But you fail to understand in your request for a change you said that the current system is OLD should be change because there are newer and much better viewing system and hence used the word word archaic. You used this phrase to try give a reason for your request. There are not any methods that I have ever heard of that is "A newer view system" that would justify the word archaic.
Instead of simply asking could a way be found to view the plane in the hangar that centers on the plane.
HiTech
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First I do not in any way believe the view system in the hanger is in any way old and out dated.
It's purpose is not to view the airplane, it's purpose is to show you what plane you selected, and be able to select items in the hanger.
I understand your wish to be able to view the planes. And that could be added with out any change to the very CURRENT view system who's PRIMARY purpose is to select ordinance, fuel, set convergences and select gun positions. And NOT to view the planes from every angle.
But you fail to understand in your request for a change you said that the current system is OLD should be change because there are newer and much better viewing system and hence used the word word archaic. You used this phrase to try give a reason for your request. There are not any methods that I have ever heard of that is "A newer view system" that would justify the word archaic.
Instead of simply asking could a way be found to view the plane in the hangar that centers on the plane.
HiTech
thanx for the reply...
I am not very eloquent...and try to get the point across with as minimum words as possible....
I do accept your explanation of the viewing system in hanger.....it works as you want it to. :aok
yes I would like a way to view The plane in the hanger where the view is centered on the plane...while giving us the ability to zoom in and out to view the plane and the details....
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I can vouch for Ink, he's practically illiterate. :D
I'm sure he just meant to request a change and got carried away being persuasive. :aok
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For what it's worth, I learned a new word... archaic
Never heard it before... Then again, I don't get out much.
Coogan
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Sounds like Hitech got butt hurt over nothing.
But it is his sandbox so we have to roll in it
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AH is HiTech's baby. AH is pushing a new build and he and team are maybe on edge, working too many hours, pushing hard on a goal. its getting close and peeps are wanting changes already. this is like building things, which I do, at some point you get focused, things are coming together, you are dialed in................boom, dam pebble stubbed my toe................
I'm guilty as well of asking for chit, or wishing for watermelon out loud. this water is already under the bridge and down stream.........let it die........
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Sounds like Hitech got butt hurt over nothing.
But it is his sandbox so we have to roll in it
Apparently you also don't know the common usage of archaic. The careless insult was there, I don't believe Ink intended it.
No need to stir the pot.
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Still...
I think rotating aircraft in the hanger to look at all aspects of a skin has great 'cool points'.
It's a nice to have and peripherally enhances the environment of the hanger.
Let's not lose this and when we get to cool points after the primary work is complete, I hope it is up near the top of the list - right after any planned enhancements to the aircraft and cockpits.
It's all good.
:salute
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The wishlist forum is a good place for suggested improvements to Aces High.
For example, the ability to admire the various skins from all angles. :D
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I can vouch for Ink, he's practically illiterate. :D
I'm sure he just meant to request a change and got carried away being persuasive. :aok
:rofl :rofl :aok
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The wishlist forum is a good place for suggested improvements to Aces High.
For example, the ability to admire the various skins from all angles. :D
On second thought, if my wife read this she might not understand. ;)
:salute
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Apparently you also don't know the common usage of archaic. The careless insult was there, I don't believe Ink intended it.
No need to stir the pot.
Where in my comment is it apparent that I don't know the common usage of the word archaic? Stirring the pot I may have been but jumping to unfounded conclusions I was not.
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Where in my comment is it apparent that I don't know the common usage of the word archaic? Stirring the pot I may have been but jumping to unfounded conclusions I was not.
You have a PM. :D
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HT, he only wanted to give an advice to make your product better.
Your reaction is just not what i would expect.
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I don't see someone calling my hanger view system archaic as simply wanting to make the game better
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I don't see someone calling my hanger view system archaic as simply wanting to make the game better
can you admit you may have been wrong in your assumption?
I absolutely believe if we can view the plane up close in the Hanger...as a player and not a skinner(I really hate that word) IE not having to use the Skin viewer....
people would enjoy that...I certainly would.
it takes nothing away from the game but adds to it....
so yes I was asking to make the game better....
you chose to take it as an insult.
I am a stickler when it comes to respect and Honor....they fall right below Truth and Love as being the most important things to me....
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Ink since I stuck up for you let me disagree. You chose a word that I found insulting. Obviously I didn't take it personally, I didn't choose that interpretation, it's what the word means in common usage. When you insult somebody inadvertently it's not their fault for feeling insulted. I'm not talking about micro aggression BS. Hitech didn't assume and react, he simply told you he was insulted. This created an opportunity for you to apologize. Instead you prate about honor and respect. It's disappointing.
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Perhaps there should be two separate areas; Hangar View, like current view to select planes and loadouts, and a new Plane View, where you can choose a paint job and have full 360 view with zoom.
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Ink since I stuck up for you let me disagree. You chose a word that I found insulting. Obviously I didn't take it personally, I didn't choose that interpretation, it's what the word means in common usage. When you insult somebody inadvertently it's not their fault for feeling insulted. I'm not talking about micro aggression BS. Hitech didn't assume and react, he simply told you he was insulted. This created an opportunity for you to apologize. Instead you prate about honor and respect. It's disappointing.
I did apologize for him taking it wrong.
I absolutely disagree with you on this..... "When you insult somebody inadvertently it's not their fault for feeling insulted"
of course it is their fault for feeling insulted....wow man..
'Prate about Honor and respect"
really one sentence I am prating?????
if I wanted to insult him I would not do out the side of my neck..hidden in certainly NOT common words.. I would just insult him clear and precise.
that was my point about Honor...I would not hide an insult in words...I call that "talking out the side of your neck" and that is something I do not do.
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Perhaps there should be two separate areas; Hangar View, like current view to select planes and loadouts, and a new Plane View, where you can choose a paint job and have full 360 view with zoom.
more for no point...the Hanger is a perfect place for it...
click on the plane it becomes the focal point...click on fuel it does...click on ammo it does...or something along those lines.
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I did apologize for him taking it wrong.
I saw where you said he took it wrong. I missed the apology.
I absolutely disagree with you on this..... "When you insult somebody inadvertently it's not their fault for feeling insulted"
of course it is their fault for feeling insulted....wow man..
I think it's clear that you don't control how you feel. No point arguing about it.
We'll just prove the point. :D
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I think it's clear that you don't control how you feel. No point arguing about it.
We'll just prove the point. :D
what?????
I blame no one for what I feel.... if I am insulted by what someone "says"...that's on me not them...especially if it is an assumed insult and not an actual insult....
I am archaic....because I just don't understand how people can be offended by what one says (unless that person is someone they love)....and then to blame THAT person for your feelings....
FLS you have it backwards...your thoughts... your feelings.....your actions..... are yours and yours alone....
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what?????
I blame no one for what I feel.... if I am insulted by what someone "says"...that's on me not them...especially if it is an assumed insult and not an actual insult....
I am archaic....because I just don't understand how people can be offended by what one says (unless that person is someone they love)....and then to blame THAT person for your feelings....
FLS you have it backwards...your thoughts... your feelings.....your actions..... are yours and yours alone....
I have no idea where you are getting blame from. Feelings come from chemicals in your brain as a result of some stimulation. I don't think we're exactly communicating here. :D
I agree that you choose how you act. If the insult seems intended you might point it out to find out if it was intentional. The feeling of insult would not be chosen, just the verbal response that an insult was perceived is chosen.
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get back, Loretta! Your mommy's waiting for you
Y'all should consider dropping this.... :bolt:
TC
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get back, Loretta! Your mommy's waiting for you
Y'all should consider dropping this.... :bolt:
TC
Ink sometimes agrees with me when he gets what I'm trying to say. But it can take a while. :D
The point of discussion is to understand each other not to agree with everything. :aok
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I have no idea where you are getting blame from. Feelings come from chemicals in your brain as a result of some stimulation. I don't think we're exactly communicating here. :D
I agree that you choose how you act. If the insult seems intended you might point it out to find out if it was intentional. The feeling of insult would not be chosen, just the verbal response that an insult was perceived is chosen.
"blame" I guess I am saying if you are insulted by what someone says... you are blaming them for your being insulted... :headscratch: :rofl
I believe... I/we choose to be insulted or not....
Ink sometimes agrees with me when he gets what I'm trying to say. But it can take a while. :D
The point of discussion is to understand each other not to agree with everything. :aok
if I see I am wrong I will be the first to say it...and I can certainly change my mind about certain things...but there are aspects that are hard coded in who I am and that will never change.
but yes I will admit if I am wrong...I have no problem with that... :aok
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I believe... I/we choose to be insulted or not....
And what is it that causes us to make that choice?
Is it a feeeeeeling? :D
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And what is it that causes us to make that choice?
Is it a feeeeeeling? :D
:rofl
well in that sense everything we feel is from "feelings"... :neener:
except it is my intelligence.... that allows me....to not be insulted by what people say. :cheers:
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But there is a reason you aren't constantly deciding if you were insulted or not. Feelings are a signal for our attention. Feeling insulted is the signal to examine the circumstances and make the choice of how to take it. Without the unintentional emotional reaction there is no chain that leads to you making a choice. :cheers:
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Can we all move on before someone gets whacked with a hammer? :cry
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Can we all move on before someone gets whacked with a hammer? :cry
There has never been a problem with reasonable discussion. They are sort of the point of the BB.
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But there is a reason you aren't constantly deciding if you were insulted or not. Feelings are a signal for our attention. Feeling insulted is the signal to examine the circumstances and make the choice of how to take it. Without the unintentional emotional reaction there is no chain that leads to you making a choice. :cheers:
I am more of a live and let live type of guy...I truly don't think about things that most people do...
my thoughts 90% are on the creator...
I made a choice a long time ago not to care what people think or say about me..or to care what someone does or says period...up until there ACTIONS effect me....
that was a choice...based on experience....not feelings.
your feelings will bring you down a bad road...they will deceive you....
in my mind this world is too damn concerned with being "politically correct"...about "offending" someone....and worrying about what others do in their life and say...
to the OT
all I am saying is Hitech...in my mind..... should have known... I was not insulting him...I have always been straight forward on these boards...
Can we all move on before someone gets whacked with a hammer? :cry
no reason for that :o I would hope not
FLS and I are actually having a stimulating conversation...without it turning to insults :uhoh and mayhem... :bolt:
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There has never been a problem with reasonable discussion. They are sort of the point of the BB.
"It's a fighter pilot game. Bring your ego just don't let it drive."
:t
ego = feelings
not letting it drive = Intellegence
drops the mic...as my 12 year old would say.
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I don't understand how you don't understand......
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Everyone drop your shovels
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Oh,OH,oh : :x :x :x :x ......I dropped my shovel........it landed on my arthritic toe! That's arthritic not archaic you bunch of land lubbers - hurry get me in the air! :banana: :banana: :banana: :O :O :O
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Lets get in the air, and enjoy the ride we have. All is well! :banana: :banana: :banana: Ohhhhh to much to dream last night!