New 2015 aluminum frame F150 40 mph crash test results-"Marginal" :eek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzxiTZcIyUE
A "marginal" rating is the most common.... One would expect better from a full-sized truck. However, the longer crew cab did get a "good" rating.
Heck, the Jeep Wrangler got a "good" rating. There is a caveat to that rating... If it was a base Wrangler, with the 15" wheels and 29" tires, it only got a "marginal" rating. It seems that the much bigger 17" and 18" optional wheels and much wider 32" tall tires make a significant difference, by absorbing more energy. This is a big help along with those snap-off plastic fenders that just tear away and don't transmit the crash shock to the vehicle.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 07, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Well... to their defense, they say it's built Ford tough so marginal is pretty close to the mark.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Masherbrum on September 07, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
The 40mph test has the majority of the vehicles being marginal. But the Ram and Silverado are no where near the F150. So it pretty much eliminates rabid's contribution to this thread.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ghi on September 07, 2015, 02:03:30 PM
Still the best selling vehicle in USA/Canada; 56,318 sold here in Canada in first half of 2015, over 300 units /day; but sales are going to drop here, many are used by oilfield contractors and the business is slow;
357,180 sold in US, same period first half of 2015; aprox 2000 sold/day :rock http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/08/july-2015-ytd-usa-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model.html
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 07, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
A "marginal" rating is the most common.... One would expect better from a full-sized truck. However, the longer crew cab did get a "good" rating.
Heck, the Jeep Wrangler got a "good" rating. There is a caveat to that rating... If it was a base Wrangler, with the 15" wheels and 29" tires, it only got a "marginal" rating. It seems that the much bigger 17" and 18" optional wheels and much wider 32" tall tires make a significant difference, by absorbing more energy. This is a big help along with those snap-off plastic fenders that just tear away and don't transmit the crash shock to the vehicle.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 07, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
By the way, older F-150's, fail, miserably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-JjIRWOBU
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 07, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
Added to my garage last week.
Brand new.
(http://pccamembers.com/images/truck.jpg)
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 07, 2015, 03:17:45 PM
You'll notice that test was done against a stationary hard object. Notice the metal bumper, now lets say some one in ...oh I don't know, a Prius perhaps, crosses the line and tags me. I'll side with the truck any day.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 07, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
You'll notice that test was done against a stationary hard object. Notice the metal bumper, now lets say some one in ...oh I don't know, a Prius perhaps, crosses the line and tags me. I'll side with the truck any day.
You're relatively new to NHTSA and IIHS tests aren't you? :O
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Spikes on September 07, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
Ford could've done a lot better in the aesthetics department. What an ugly front end.
Aesthetics of trucks are like women, a personal opinion of what beauty is. I think Dodge are the most gawd aweful front ends ever made but my boss (a 5'6" Irishman) would prefer to bang his Dodge rather than his wife. :devil
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Volron on September 07, 2015, 09:13:05 PM
Always 40MPH. Last I noted, the norm is AT LEAST 30MPH, not 20MPH. I guess a lot of these take place in school zones. :noid
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 07, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
So, what you're saying is that in the film, the Stationary Hard Object wasn't sitting still and the truck ran into it? From what my uneducated eyes saw, the truck drove into an object. Said object was sitting there (stationary) and didn't even dent (hard). :O
New to tests? Nope. Just attempting to make a humorous point about measured and controlled testing and standardized ratings against the real world condition of a truck vs prius. I can see how you missed that ;)
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 07, 2015, 09:23:14 PM
Yes indeed, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is the first Ford truck front end I've liked since they left that big flat nosed thing in 91. 2005 was nice but looked awfully soft for a truck. I like that they finally left the massive headlight assembly. It's still big but with the cut out, I think it just looks amazing. First year I've wanted a new truck in a long, long time. Don't like the Dodge line at all, Chevys just do not do it for me. This one just jumped out and said Yep, time for a new truck.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: icepac on September 07, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
So the trucks are getting heavier which imparts more energy in a crash to the other car involved.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 07, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
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So the trucks are getting heavier which imparts more energy in a crash to the other car involved.
700 pounds lighter, at least mine is. New aluminum body reduced the weight of the truck so much Ford was able to add additional support to the frame that they wanted to add in the past but the trucks were too heavy.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Dragon Tamer on September 07, 2015, 10:24:55 PM
New to tests? Nope. Just attempting to make a humorous point about measured and controlled testing and standardized ratings against the real world condition of a truck vs prius. I can see how you missed that ;)
Fair enough, however it is jumping from one extreme to another, sure it isn't every day that you auger into the corner of a brick building at 40mph, but the prius is just one car of many on the road. You could probably piss on a prius and it would fall apart. :D Fortunately for truck owners, it seems there are many more cars and crossovers on the road due to MPG than there are large SUV's and trucks.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: FESS67 on September 08, 2015, 08:35:41 AM
How about you guys just avoid the collision!! Then no one gets hurt right?
OOOOHHHH That's right, you are AH players and avoiding the collision is up to the other guy...better get ready by buying big!!!
Dumb F^%Ks.......OOOhhh did I say that out loud? BUT, the real question is, did you pick up on the issue that you think bigger protection is key. At no point did anyone mention accident prevention!!
See....."HE RAMMED ME!!!!"
<sigh> actually - you both went head to head - but you were stupid enough to think you were in your "insert large truck of choice here" and deserved to win the head on.
I know..preaching to the deaf...but some of them might read :P
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 08, 2015, 11:48:10 AM
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<sigh> actually - you both went head to head - but you were stupid enough to think you were in your "insert large truck of choice here" and deserved to win the head on.
If the prius comes across the line, like I described, you bet your butt I not only deserve to win but intend to. :) I've been driving since I was 16, I'm 52, not a single accident, speeding ticket, not so much as a parking ticket. Yep, I do prevention. I drive to prevent accidents, and prevent myself from getting hurt by someone less than effective at it. Stupid? Hmm. Guess we all have different ideas of what might be considered stupid.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 08, 2015, 08:27:18 PM
WTG, threw the "Prius" word out there and killed the thread, Roc. :O :police:
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: Karnak on September 08, 2015, 09:38:39 PM
I'll stick with Toyota, thank you.
Title: Re: Built Ford Tough?
Post by: ROC on September 08, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
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WTG, threw the "Prius" word out there and killed the thread, Roc. :O :police:
LOL Dude this was fun, I thought the Dodge/GM/Ford brawl was going to start bubbling :)