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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Randy1 on October 15, 2015, 06:39:27 AM
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Is there an increase in small plane crashes this year? Seems like it is just about one a day. Has the FAA lightened up on their control or is their just more home builts? I have read on this forum almost a caviler attitude on real plane owners plane mechanical and electrical problems.
Just a couple of weeks ago a cv-10 crashed on takeoff killing 5. The pilot was not licensed but was the builder. You would guess an overloaded plane.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/17/small-plane-crashes-investigation/10717427/
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Is there an increase in small plane crashes this year? Seems like it is just about one a day. Has the FAA lightened up on their control or is their just more home builts? I have read on this forum almost a caviler attitude on real plane owners plane mechanical and electrical problems.
Just a couple of weeks ago a cv-10 crashed on takeoff killing 5. The pilot was not licensed but was the builder. You would guess an overloaded plane.
Natural selection
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Natural selection
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Coogan
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A young guy took some of my American family members for a hop in a small plane in Alaska 2 months ago, and got my nephew absolutely hooked on flying, as he let him handle the controls a bit. I believe the pilot was only in his early 20s. Found out 2 days ago that he was killed last Thursday in a light aircraft crash in Alaska, near Anchorage
He was the 26th person killed this year in just Alaska alone in a small plane crash.
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A plane crash blog http://www.kathrynsreport.com/ (http://www.kathrynsreport.com/)
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Is there an increase in small plane crashes this year? Seems like it is just about one a day. Has the FAA lightened up on their control or is their just more home builts? I have read on this forum almost a caviler attitude on real plane owners plane mechanical and electrical problems.
Just a couple of weeks ago a cv-10 crashed on takeoff killing 5. The pilot was not licensed but was the builder. You would guess an overloaded plane.
:airplane: Randy, I to have noticed an increase in the number of small aircraft accidents, but when I research them, its usually someone flying into instrument conditions and they were not instrument rated! I know mechanical failures do occur from time to time, but the real problem is people flying in weather conditions they have no business in.
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:airplane: Randy, I to have noticed an increase in the number of small aircraft accidents, but when I research them, its usually someone flying into instrument conditions and they were not instrument rated! I know mechanical failures do occur from time to time, but the real problem is people flying in weather conditions they have no business in.
Worth posting again:
http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live?watch=%7BCCA30EA1-A94D-4E45-ABCD-3AD4074403E0%7D
Seeing that film probably saved me and two of my kids about a month later.
- oldman
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Is there an increase in small plane crashes this year?
I don't know about this year specifically. But he overall 20+ yr trend in general aviation accidents is downward, mostly due to better training and awareness. Groups like AOPA, EAA and the FAA FAASTeam are focused on reducing accidents and it is working.
Has the FAA lightened up on their control
No, the last major change in FAA regs regarding GA was creating the LSA, ELSA, SLSA categories. Doing so has allowed many people to fly who otherwise wouldn't be eligible for a full PPL, and seems to have not effected the overall trend of better safety.
or is their just more home builts?
Home builts are inherently no more, or less safe then certified aircraft. It almost always comes down to human factors, be they pilot or mechanic related. I've worked on experimentals and I've worked on certified. I can tell you I've seen a lot more certified aircraft suffering from neglected maintenance then experimentals.
I have read on this forum almost a caviler attitude on real plane owners plane mechanical and electrical problems.
I never try to gauge people attitude from text in an online forum. It's far to easy to project your own expectations onto others.
Just a couple of weeks ago a cv-10 crashed on takeoff killing 5. The pilot was not licensed but was the builder. You would guess an overloaded plane.
I've never heard of a CV-10. Have a link?
Lastly I'll add, that where I live (Alaska) there are a higher percentage of GA accidents and deaths unfortunately. Because there is simply a lot more people flying up here. Almost always it turns out that the cause of the accident was a chain of small bad decisions, or one really big one. Many such accidents are people from the lower 48 who decide to come up on a once in a lifetime trip and "fly" Alaska. Often times they get in over their heads, or simply don't plan ahead. (ie. there are a LOT of airstrips on AK sectionals where you ARE NOT going to land a Bonanza, Cirrus or even a 182.) But the lure of that "once in a lifetime" flying opportunity can often override their good sense leading to poor decisions.
However the EAA chapters up here have been very active in trying to reduce accidents, and it has been working. Even in Alaska the overall accident trend is downward.
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It was an RV-10 and it had 5 people onboard and it was at 3 in the morning.
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Worth posting again:
http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live?watch=%7BCCA30EA1-A94D-4E45-ABCD-3AD4074403E0%7D
Seeing that film probably saved me and two of my kids about a month later.
- oldman
:airplane: Good video! I have known two people in the 7 years in which I was a full time flight instructor, who killed not only themselves, but their nice wife's also. Both were doctors, one a heart surgeon and one a Neosugeon. The first one had a Cherokee 180, which I taught him how to fly on and he had about 160 hours if I remember correctly and wanted to get his instrument ticket! He had "flunked" the PPL flight exam twice, but he convinced me that he wanted the IFR ticket, so that he would be comfortable flying at night. OK, I said, but instrument flying is not something to "fool" with, unless you fly enough to remain proficiency in flying on the gauges! Oh, no problem said he and off we went into the training curriculum, but after 10 hours of mostly unusual attitude recovery procedures, I still did not have enough confidence in his ability to keep the aircraft right side up while executing instrument procedures and approaches. So I sat him down and tried to explain to him, you are going to have life saving decisions to make in instrument conditions and I just don't think at this point in your flying career, that you need to be in IFR conditions. Get a couple of hundred more hours and come back and we will continue working on your ticket! OK, he said, I agree!
Two weeks later, he shows up with a new Cherokee "Six" and said he would like to continue working on his ticket. I went to the man who owned the flight school I was working for and explained my concerns and ask that he put another flight instructor with him. OK the boss said, I will give him his instrument instructions from now on! Two months later, he was sent up for a check ride with a designated examiner and after two failures, finally passed the ride.
Three months after that, he was going into Gainesville Fla, IFR, with no thunder storms around, just low ceilings. The floor of the overcast was 1500 feet AGL, with tops at 9,000. Witnesses on the ground reported seeing the aircraft coming down out of the clouds with no wings. Need I explain further?
The second guy was just as bad, but he insisted on a Cessna 310, now instead of one engine to handle, now has two and he was having difficulty just flying the aircraft VFR, but as soon as one engine was idled back simulating single engine flight, a lot of bad things begin to happen for him, as he just couldn't handle the aircraft in a safe manner on one engine. So again, I sat him down and told him I didn't think he needed to be trying to get a instrument ticket until he had a couple of hundred or more hours in the aircraft. He left that day in a "huff", muttering something about a young smart aleck flight instructor who didn't know how to teach.
About 3 months later, he was on a approach to Valdosta Ga and landed about a 100 yds short of the active runway, the only problem was, he was inverted when he hit the ground.
I don't want to knock doctors in general, but they seem to have a "utopia" about death, its always going to happen to the other guy, not them!
there "old pilots" and there are "bold pilots", but no "old bold pilots"!
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I really don't follow aviation closely since I moved down to Charlotte about 6 years ago, but I
do have a couple theories. One, the average age of the GA fleet is growing. Two, as the economy
gets better more folks have the opportunity to fly...law of averages applies IMO.