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Title: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on October 28, 2015, 01:11:20 PM
So as some know, I am planning my transition from the Army late next month. Everyone of my brothers who got out before me told me to submit my VA claims ASAP because of the back log.

I submitted for 4 claims for disability compensation 2 months ago and got word back this week that they have assigned me a case manager. She sent me an email and needs a full copy of my medical transcript from the Army.

Why can't the VA pull my medical transcripts? They are all digital these days, this would definitely speed up the process.

Now I thought it would be easy just to go to the Troop Medical clinic and make a copy of my medical records....nope I was wrong.

I had to fill out a release form and they have to mail it to me, which the old retired 1SG told me takes 30 days normally.  So 30 days from now I have to upload them into my profile on EBenefits and then wait for my case manager to look at them again.

For anyone dealing with the VA who is still active, submit your medical records prior to submitting your claims to the VA, it will help your process go faster.

Overall, I'm not mad about my experience with the VA, just a few things that are frustrating and get the "Man if I would have known that" from me which are taking long.

How have your experiences been? What problems did you run into them? Any advice moving forward?

 :salute
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Kanth on October 28, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
I have only dealt with VA in terms of like getting copies of my DD214 (yep that's slow to arrive)

However I have a friend who's husband had submitted for disability and had a heck of a time so sadly it doesn't seem unusual.
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: USRanger on October 28, 2015, 04:38:59 PM
Welcome to the VA!  I hardly ever use them.  I prefer to use civi doctors in my hometown, because I'd rather get in this week, than six months from now.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on October 28, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
Welcome to the VA!  I hardly ever use them.  I prefer to use civi doctors in my hometown, because I'd rather get in this week, than six months from now.
Yea I will probably use them for when I'm going to school and then switch once I get into the work field again.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: WpnX on October 28, 2015, 11:23:28 PM
Junky,
They are completely incompetent and all these ahats getting out claiming PTSD and a bunch of other fake BS are overburdening the system that was set up to help guys like you. Always gets me goin when I see guys that never left the FOB getting 80-90% disability for doing nothing. Anyway, go to the DAV, they will help you. And don't claim anything that you don't deserve, keep your integrity... and pride, that's worth much more than a few bucks a month.
Good luck my friend.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on October 29, 2015, 01:15:21 AM
Junky,
They are completely incompetent and all these ahats getting out claiming PTSD and a bunch of other fake BS are overburdening the system that was set up to help guys like you. Always gets me goin when I see guys that never left the FOB getting 80-90% disability for doing nothing. Anyway, go to the DAV, they will help you. And don't claim anything that you don't deserve, keep your integrity... and pride, that's worth much more than a few bucks a month.
Good luck my friend.
Heck man, want to me more pissed off? We just had a non deployed Private get 90% RETIREMENT for behavioral health reasons....they are giving out money to anyone who asks...

My knee is what's going to pull a chunk of my final percentage, another guy just got 50% for the exact same injury but I have the bigger scars.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Randy1 on October 29, 2015, 07:36:32 AM
A veteran here bragged he got hearing aids from the VA with FM radio so he could watch a game on TV and listen to one on his hearing aids.  He could hear just fine without hearing aids.  He bragged a lot of veterans got them just for the radio feature.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Maverick on October 29, 2015, 10:12:01 AM
I'm sure you have already heard it but let me state the obvious. Make sure you have complete records before you ets. You should have a copy of ALL your medical records before you walk out the door. Yeah the VA has that nice saying about caring for the soldier yadda yadda, but the sad reality is that it is a bloated bureaucracy that is a sham instead of the proper help it should be. At the DR level parts of it are OK but it will be a long tedious job getting anything from them. Good luck.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: SlipKnt on October 29, 2015, 01:24:07 PM
They can pull the records.  If they do, plan on about a 3 to 4 year wait. Provide them yourself, and you stand a shot at resolution in about 18 months.

It is a process.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Ramesis on October 29, 2015, 01:48:07 PM
I am a veteran as well (U.S. Navy) and have never used the VA because
until 7-8 years ago I was healthy and have private Insurance.
However, I am well familiar with the VA because I installed and
serviced CTs and MRIs for a living. I was servicing a CT at the VA hospital in
B'ham, Al ( sometime in the early '80s) when the techs shift was up before the next shift tech had arrived.
Despite this and that he still had a patient on the CT couch, he just
left for home leaving the patient (an elderly vet) in the CT bore moaning and groaning.
I hung around keeping an eye on the man until the replacement
tech arrived.
I swore then I would never rely on the VA for my health care even if it
were life or death!!
This is why I feel for all those vets out there with no private health
insurance,  do not trust obama care and want it repealed.
Osiris
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JVboob on October 31, 2015, 09:51:48 PM
I only did 6 years in the Air guard.
From what ive heard im screwed (i would love to truely exresss my feelings but mods would own me) in the claims i want to make.
I was always asked by my NCOs "are you dieing?" when I said no just hurts ect. and the responce was always "you'll be fine drink water take asprine/IB profine" only went to medical once so NOTHING is documented which is where im screwed.

I havent started with the VA (ETSd in Mar15) because I doubt anything will happen except maybe tenitious and hearing loss.

They never make sense with what they do from the stories ive heard.

Edit: My father 1970-74 active USAF 74-77 Army guard 77-97 Air guard just started his stuff and they have been pulling his files even the buried ones from nam that "dont exist/still classified". This 9month time frame in his record is whats taking 3+months now for them to get ahold of.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Ramesis on November 01, 2015, 03:05:08 PM
Sooo JunkyII... you are making a distinction between those veterans
that were in combat and those that were not?
It shouldn't matter! A veteran is a veteran and deserves
what they were promised regardless of the claim.
If it is shown to be true, it should be honored. Btw,
I was in the Navy from '70-'74 and then in Air national guard from
'74-'76. Does that make me less of a veteran than you?
Osiris

Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: FLS on November 01, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
Osiris check your messages.   :D
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on November 01, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
Sooo JunkyII... you are making a distinction between those veterans
that were in combat and those that were not?
It shouldn't matter! A veteran is a veteran and deserves
what they were promised regardless of the claim.
If it is shown to be true, it should be honored. Btw,
I was in the Navy from '70-'74 and then in Air national guard from
'74-'76. Does that make me less of a veteran than you?
Osiris
It absolutely should and it already does matter, when you submit a claim through the VA they ask if you have a combat tour and where to/how many months.

You don't want to defend the Soldier who I mentioned....just because they found him to be medically retired doesn't mean he deserved it....I literally called his PEBLO to tell her another Soldier told me he told them he was faking it just to get a paycheck.

Does it make you less of a Veteran? NO, never said that....but it should make you not entitled to certain things.

Some entitlements I think combat Veterans should get
o Priority Handling of Claims
o Priority on appointments at VA installations
o Reduced Taxes
o Doubled GI Bill (Which is able to be transferred to Dependants)

My opinion, you don't like it I honestly don't care....I still  :salute you for your service.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: rpm on November 01, 2015, 10:22:12 PM
You don't want to defend the Soldier who I mentioned....just because they found him to be medically retired doesn't mean he deserved it....I literally called his PEBLO to tell her another Soldier told me he told them he was faking it just to get a paycheck.
Well if that's not rock solid proof I don't know what is...  :huh
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 02, 2015, 10:58:28 AM

You don't want to defend the Soldier who I mentioned....just because they found him to be medically retired doesn't mean he deserved it....I literally called his PEBLO to tell her another Soldier told me he told them he was faking it just to get a paycheck.

My opinion, you don't like it I honestly don't care....I still  :salute you for your service.

Someone else who had an opinion shared it with you so this entitles you to drop dimes?  How is it your business?  Do you know for absolute certain that fraud is involved?  If not, you really screwed him.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Ramesis on November 02, 2015, 12:21:26 PM
So that is where innocent until proven guilty went.
It went to place where anyone can accuse anyone of anything
and is just assumed to be a fact!
No wonder the Justice system is sooooo screwed up!  :bhead
Osiris
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on November 02, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
Someone else who had an opinion shared it with you so this entitles you to drop dimes?  How is it your business?  Do you know for absolute certain that fraud is involved?  If not, you really screwed him.
A sworn statement isn't an opinion in the military...

So that is where innocent until proven guilty went.
It went to place where anyone can accuse anyone of anything
and is just assumed to be a fact!
No wonder the Justice system is sooooo screwed up!  :bhead
Osiris

Your Golly-geen right I'll say this guy was a faking POS...

Your military experience must have been a lot .....how do I put this.... softer...not as intense...if your trying to defend a Soldier who malingered.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: redcatcherb412 on November 02, 2015, 07:49:33 PM
So as some know, I am planning my transition from the Army late next month. Everyone of my brothers who got out before me told me to submit my VA claims ASAP because of the back log
As one who ran thru the mill a few times all I can suggest is patience, lots of it and a DAV rep helping you through. I had no problem in 1970 after discharge, the VA actually contacted me and asked why I hadn't come in for my exam.  I received a 60% rating.  But rest assured anything wrong from wounds or injuries will NOT improve as you age and further claims to update the disability percentages are a tough go. Good luck in your battle.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: branch37 on November 02, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
A veteran here bragged he got hearing aids from the VA with FM radio so he could watch a game on TV and listen to one on his hearing aids.  He could hear just fine without hearing aids.  He bragged a lot of veterans got them just for the radio feature.

And my grandfather gets %10 disability for hearing loss from engine noise in B-47s, you have to yell at the poor guy when he has the hearing aids in.  :bhead
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Vudu15 on November 02, 2015, 11:49:43 PM
Just before I got out a couple years ago other guys were telling to to claim all sorts of stuff, I was never deployed and I just made sure to get it documented for later. Didnt claim anything folks messed up way worse claimed just a little. It is sad to see folks abuse the system just because they can.....and if they do they should be punished for it just like anyone else.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: JunkyII on November 03, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
Just before I got out a couple years ago other guys were telling to to claim all sorts of stuff, I was never deployed and I just made sure to get it documented for later. Didnt claim anything folks messed up way worse claimed just a little. It is sad to see folks abuse the system just because they can.....and if they do they should be punished for it just like anyone else.
Exactly :aok
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: rpm on November 05, 2015, 11:28:18 AM
Had a VA medical appointment at my local clinic today. I was 30 min early and hadn't even finished checking in at the kiosk when they called my name. I've always received top notch care and service. Dallas VA has the same doctors you get at UTSW Medical Center, but sometimes you do have to wait. About 20 minutes is the longest I've had.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: branch37 on November 05, 2015, 08:16:48 PM
Had a VA medical appointment at my local clinic today. I was 30 min early and hadn't even finished checking in at the kiosk when they called my name. I've always received top notch care and service. Dallas VA has the same doctors you get at UTSW Medical Center, but sometimes you do have to wait. About 20 minutes is the longest I've had.

For all the crap the VA has been getting in the news lately, I find it hard to believe that every VA clinic/hospital sucks as bad as they are saying.  There's crappy institutions in every aspect of public service, not just the government funded ones.  There are also good ones. 
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Tumor on November 06, 2015, 09:29:19 AM
Junky,
They are completely incompetent and all these ahats getting out claiming PTSD and a bunch of other fake BS are overburdening the system that was set up to help guys like you.
There is a LOT of this roadkill going on.  Thing is, it's the VA's fault for falling down on the job so badly a few years ago.  Now, anyone who cries "oh my back" or whatever, gets a percentage because the VA is afraid of people crying foul.  I see SO many people pulling 100% that are total frauds... they function perfectly in every day life, but boy oh boy, turn on the boohoo's when they near a VA hospital.

I've been retired 8yrs.  The VA has done a pretty good job IMO.  I prefer using them over TriCare, because Humana South is one of the most ridiculously convoluted piles of steaming horse crap I've ever had to deal with.  Comparatively speaking, the "care" IS better on the civilian side, when TriCare isn't diddlying it up.  But the VA is so straight forward and easy to deal with, that's where I go.  But there again, my VA doc is a little clinic and the real problem is the "Nurse" he has handling everything.... ya know, she's dumber than dirt, but she's hot, so whatever right?

Allot of the "how good is the VA" depends on where you are.  That's about the best answer you're going to get.  It's cheaper too... but nobody on TriCare should ever cry about cost (Prime that is).

I almost forgot... if you decide on TriCare (you CAN use both) study up.  Prime is only available if your within 100mi of an MTF (AS THE CROW FLIES).  Thank you Congress for screwing the crap out of us vets yet again.  Standard is great, but if you have a problem, it will break your bank (if you're poor like me... the catastrophic cap isn't real real bad).  For me to use Prime, I have to drive 89mi to see a doc.  My VA clinic is 20mi.. so there ya go.

Tumor

Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Tumor on November 06, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
oops
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Traveler on November 08, 2015, 09:24:42 AM
I only did 6 years in the Air guard.
Thank you for your service.
From what ive heard im screwed (i would love to truely exresss my feelings but mods would own me) in the claims i want to make.
I was always asked by my NCOs "are you dieing?" when I said no just hurts ect. and the responce was always "you'll be fine drink water take asprine/IB profine" only went to medical once so NOTHING is documented which is where im screwed.
I havent started with the VA (ETSd in Mar15) because I doubt anything will happen except maybe tenitious and hearing loss.
They never make sense with what they do from the stories ive heard.
Edit: My father 1970-74 active USAF 74-77 Army guard 77-97 Air guard just started his stuff and they have been pulling his files even the buried ones from nam that "dont exist/still classified". This 9month time frame in his record is whats taking 3+months now for them to get ahold of.
Not ture, for either you or your father:  First the way a VA claim works is simple, you must show that your claim is related to your service.  Remember when you were drafted/ enlisted in a branch of the service?   They gave you a physical, a very detailed physical.   Do you remember when you were separated from active duty?  Remember as you were mustered out, they gave you another detailed physical.  They simply compare the records for the two medical physicals, Any changes or differences must have occurred while you were on active duty.  Those records are note classified and used as the basis of many, if not all medical claim decisions.  Frankly anyone claiming that files are buried from nam or classified is total BS.    The three classification of “classified”, “ secret” and “Top Secret”   used by the US Military  come with time periods associated with each level of classification and they are 10 years, 20 years and 30 years.  Viet Nam was 40 years ago, there isn’t to much left to be de-classified and a serviceman’s medical records were never classified.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: MiloMorai on November 11, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
Your VA must being doing something right as it gave out $142,000,000 in bonuses last year.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/11/va-reportedly-paid-142m-in-bonuses-last-year/?intcmp=hplnws
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: Traveler on November 12, 2015, 08:45:51 AM
Your VA must being doing something right as it gave out $142,000,000 in bonuses last year.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/11/va-reportedly-paid-142m-in-bonuses-last-year/?intcmp=hplnws

It would be nice if everyone had their own VA but I have the same one as everyone else.  It's messed up, I fought with the VA for over 20 years and finally the government admitted that "yes, agent orange is bad for you and continuing to kill Vets long after they left the battle field".  The VA is what you get with the government in charge of your health care.  A private doctor that I saw last week because I gave up trying at the VA,  described the VA system of medical care as being at the level of the early 1950's medical care.

You also have to remember two things: one, VA claims for compensation is totally separate from requests for medical care and two, you may request and be granted medical care through the VA system long before that same medical system grants you any type of compensation for a service related injury.

I'm what is referred to as a 100% now, sounds great, right, well each of the chronic disease that I have directly relate to my exposure to Agent Orange.  Both my children died within weeks of their birth as a result of multiple birth defects.   I developed type two diabetes  at the age of 26,  I was 6’3” 200lbs, not overweight, I’m now 214lbs, well within my BMI.   I lost motor skills in many muscle groups.  I had developed something called  “incomplete paralyses “  directly related to Agent Orange,  I have a very difficult  time swallowing, because not all the muscle groups work properly when I try to swallow.  I have a major issue walking up stairs as I tend to drag my  right foot.   All the compensation in the world will not make up for what I lost.

What I did in dealing with the VA once they agreed to the relevance  of Agent Orange.  Was to present evidence using the Army physical at entry and discharge, copies of Morning Reports and After Action reports that detailed where I was in country for the 18 month tour I did in November 67 through May 69.  Some of the after action reports were classified and redacted as to where in country we were at, but gave enough information that verified my being there.  It's not easy dealing with the VA and it takes a lot of homework on the part of the Vet to move his/her case along the way, however, it can be done if you work at it.
 
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: MiloMorai on November 12, 2015, 01:33:08 PM
Traveler, I was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Experiences with Veterans Affairs.
Post by: WWhiskey on November 12, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
Sitting waiting oN an appointment now at the va