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Title: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: swareiam on November 07, 2015, 06:14:33 AM
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AXIS Victory!!!
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: MachNix on November 07, 2015, 09:55:26 AM
Thanks for posting!  It is always nice to get the scores in a timely manner.
 :salute
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: WxMan on November 07, 2015, 12:15:46 PM
This may only be a preliminary tally, as destroyed aircraft was not included. However the outcome should not change.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Dantoo on November 07, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
All hail Makayla!   :aok  :)
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: swareiam on November 07, 2015, 06:25:50 PM
Sorry Gentlemen, in this series destroyed aircraft count for nothing. It is about stopping your opponent from scoring on ground targets. Focusing on effective fighter escort and pinpointed ground attacks create the victory here.

 :salute
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 07, 2015, 07:15:05 PM
Sorry Gentlemen, in this series destroyed aircraft count for nothing. It is about stopping your opponent from scoring on ground targets. Focusing on effective fighter escort and pinpointed ground attacks create the victory here.

 :salute

It does not say anything about this in the event write up, rules and scoring that I can find after reading it several times.... who , what, where, when and or why is "this series" not following the write up and rules and scoring as it is presented at the following link:

http://www.ahevents.org/fso-current-next-event.html

the scoring of this event write up says that they do count:

Quote
SCORING:

Aircraft Points:

Single Engine Fighter    1 point
 
Twin Engine Fighter      1 points
 
Twin Engine Bomber     2 points
 

Ground Target Points:

Vehicle Hangar           25 points

Fighter Hangar           25 points

Bomber Hangar          25 points
 
Barracks                      3 points
 
Radar                          3 points
 
AAA Gun                      3 points
 
Ammo Bunker              3 points
 
Bridge Span               20 points per complete span.  Zero pts. for less
 
Fuel Dump                  3 points
 
Ships                        CA (4 pts) DD (4 pts)
 

Other Point Scoring:

 
NO POINTS are awarded for:

•Destroyed Town Buildings or Non-Structure Buildings

•Destroying unassigned target objects

 

Frame close landing Bonus:

•  0.5 points awarded for a successful landing

 

Friendly Fire Penalty:

• -2 points assessed against offending side per occurrence


^^^
quote is from the write-up for this November's FSO event, that I linked to above......

just curious as to why you posted :

Sorry Gentlemen, in this series destroyed aircraft count for nothing. It is about stopping your opponent from scoring on ground targets. Focusing on effective fighter escort and pinpointed ground attacks create the victory here.

 :salute

that destroyed aircraft count for nothing? have no point value? or why it was left out?

this quoted reply seems a bit confusing with regards to the write-up, Sir

TC
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: USRanger on November 07, 2015, 11:57:07 PM
Well, that's about a crap sandwich surprise.  What is the reason for all the "oh yeah" changes this tour?  First with getting the objectives out per SOP, now this.  If it ain't broke...
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: swareiam on November 08, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
Gentlemen,

You are all correct. I thought that portion had bee written out. It will add these point to the score. My apologies to everyone.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Squire on November 08, 2015, 03:39:24 AM
Nice and close well fought all.  :salute
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: swareiam on November 08, 2015, 08:00:36 AM
Revised Score up...

Top of the page.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 08, 2015, 08:29:58 AM
Looks the same to me. Still not seeing any points for aircraft destroyed.

Bud, this is two weeks in a row you've fallen all over yourself trying to get this done quickly. That's appreciated by everyone to be sure. The idea here primarily is to get it right. If we had to wait a day or two (or three) is no big deal. The only time that would factor in would be if this frame's losses affect the next frame's setup. That's not the case here. Even if it were you'd still have until tonight to get that info out.

I'd suggest you pump the brakes and slow your roll. I also have little doubt the rest of the CM team just HAVE to be giving you similar advice as I'm sure they're keeping up with this. If you're not gonna listen to me how about listening to them? They have loads of experience you can draw from. Take advantage of that. If you can't do that then maybe it's just not for you.

I'm sure you'll do a better job of it next time.

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: MachNix on November 08, 2015, 08:35:16 AM
Swareiam,
Hang in there!  The learning-curve is a bit steep, and you are doing a great job.
:aok

Drano,
You may have to force a refresh of your browsers to see the updated scores.  The kill scores appears right after the Ace Pilot row.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 08, 2015, 08:38:56 AM



Drano,
You may have to force a refresh of your browsers to see the updated scores.  The kill scores appears right after the Ace Pilot row.


I thought of that and did but I'm still not seeing it. Just the landed bonus on that line. Maybe a Tapatalk thing?


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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: hcrana on November 08, 2015, 08:54:44 AM
Try force reload to override cache... shift-reload on most browsers.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: pops57 on November 08, 2015, 10:11:13 AM
Some harsh stuff in here Drano, what's with  " if you're not going to listen to me and maybe it's just not for you"? He fixed it! Was that really necessary? 
Looks the same to me. Still not seeing any points for aircraft destroyed.

Bud, this is two weeks in a row you've fallen all over yourself trying to get this done quickly. That's appreciated by everyone to be sure. The idea here primarily is to get it right. If we had to wait a day or two (or three) is no big deal. The only time that would factor in would be if this frame's losses affect the next frame's setup. That's not the case here. Even if it were you'd still have until tonight to get that info out.

I'd suggest you pump the brakes and slow your roll. I also have little doubt the rest of the CM team just HAVE to be giving you similar advice as I'm sure they're keeping up with this. If you're not gonna listen to me how about listening to them? They have loads of experience you can draw from. Take advantage of that. If you can't do that then maybe it's just not for you.

I'm sure you'll do a better job of it next time.

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 08, 2015, 10:29:45 AM
Pretty sure what I said was if he can't accept my sage advice (it is that) to accept the guidance of his team and if he can't do THAT.... then.

I'd be utterly shocked to hear the rest of the CMs have just cut him loose. I'm absolutely sure they're giving him plenty of help here. If he's ignoring them or giving them static about it, and I don't know that this is or isn't happening, then that choice would be theirs and theirs alone. It's a team after all.

I don't think I was harsh at all especially after last week's debacle where I didn't say anything until he came with the tude towards everyone that was trying to help him. I appreciate the effort and said as much. To slow his roll and use the time available to him to get it right the first time avoids all of this. Not hard. Pretty sure I said that last week too. Lost in translation I suppose.

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: pops57 on November 08, 2015, 12:22:58 PM
I see. I'm totally on the outside. My only involvement is in reading the interactions here in this thread. That is the context I had to glean meaning from. That being said, tude or no tude stating publicly --if you can't this! maybe not for you that! Still strike me as harsh (even now knowing some context) toward a struggling volunteer. The old two wrongs not making a right thing. Just my opinion.  :cheers:
Pretty sure what I said was if he can't accept my sage advice (it is that) to accept the guidance of his team and if he can't do THAT.... then.

I'd be utterly shocked to hear the rest of the CMs have just cut him loose. I'm absolutely sure they're giving him plenty of help here. If he's ignoring them or giving them static about it, and I don't know that this is or isn't happening, then that choice would be theirs and theirs alone. It's a team after all.

I don't think I was harsh at all especially after last week's debacle where I didn't say anything until he came with the tude towards everyone that was trying to help him. I appreciate the effort and said as much. To slow his roll and use the time available to him to get it right the first time avoids all of this. Not hard. Pretty sure I said that last week too. Lost in translation I suppose.

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 08, 2015, 02:41:15 PM
Perhaps context isn't your thing or you just don't read very well. Go back and read that ENTIRE paragraph where I said that slowly. Not just the last sentence. Makes more sense now doesn't it? The short of it is be smart enough to ask for help. It's absolutely positively there for him, of that I have zero doubt. Lots of good guys with loads of experience on the CM team. I never said don't listen to me or else. I said if you can't, listen to your team. I'll say it again harsh or not - - if he can't listen to THEM he's got a problem. Hell I get ignored plenty! I can take it!

I know from apprentices bud. The good ones - - the ones that stuck--were always the ones that listened. The ones that didn't? Well I couldn't tell ya what they're doing right now but I sure know what they aren't! And that applies to learning just about anything. Listen to the guys that know. They must might have done this a few times. There's no such thing as a stupid question--but ya gotta ask! Learn from your mistakes - - don't repeat them! Measure twice cut once.



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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: ImADot on November 08, 2015, 03:31:45 PM
I think this conversation has run its course; the point has been made.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: USRanger on November 08, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
See Rule #7
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: pops57 on November 08, 2015, 09:08:32 PM
Wow Drano, just wow! I did not intend for this to get ugly so I'll just move on as suggested. Peace and tolerance. :cheers:
Perhaps context isn't your thing or you just don't read very well. Go back and read that ENTIRE paragraph where I said that slowly. Not just the last sentence. Makes more sense now doesn't it? The short of it is be smart enough to ask for help. It's absolutely positively there for him, of that I have zero doubt. Lots of good guys with loads of experience on the CM team. I never said don't listen to me or else. I said if you can't, listen to your team. I'll say it again harsh or not - - if he can't listen to THEM he's got a problem. Hell I get ignored plenty! I can take it!

I know from apprentices bud. The good ones - - the ones that stuck--were always the ones that listened. The ones that didn't? Well I couldn't tell ya what they're doing right now but I sure know what they aren't! And that applies to learning just about anything. Listen to the guys that know. They must might have done this a few times. There's no such thing as a stupid question--but ya gotta ask! Learn from your mistakes - - don't repeat them! Measure twice cut once.



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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Scca on November 09, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
Looks the same to me. Still not seeing any points for aircraft destroyed.

Bud, this is two weeks in a row you've fallen all over yourself trying to get this done quickly. That's appreciated by everyone to be sure. The idea here primarily is to get it right. If we had to wait a day or two (or three) is no big deal. The only time that would factor in would be if this frame's losses affect the next frame's setup. That's not the case here. Even if it were you'd still have until tonight to get that info out.

I'd suggest you pump the brakes and slow your roll. I also have little doubt the rest of the CM team just HAVE to be giving you similar advice as I'm sure they're keeping up with this. If you're not gonna listen to me how about listening to them? They have loads of experience you can draw from. Take advantage of that. If you can't do that then maybe it's just not for you.

I'm sure you'll do a better job of it next time.


Dude...  You sir are the one that need to "pump the brakes"...  There is an old saying "Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes."  Seeing as I don't see your name in this link http://www.ahevents.org/cm-team.html (http://www.ahevents.org/cm-team.html) you should start a pumping...

Being a CM is a huge time soak.  These people have lives, jobs and kids and do this for zero compensation beyond the satisfaction received in providing YOU some enjoyment. If you have an issue, present the problem and if you are correct, it will be addressed.  Insinuating that Warhwk isn't seeking counsel from the CM team is at the very least disrespectful and says more about your character than his. 

Thanks Warhwk for your efforts, and I am fully confident that any mistakes made will be handled accordingly.  Nice work  :salute
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 09, 2015, 11:32:21 AM
Did you even read the post you just quoted?

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Scca on November 09, 2015, 12:33:20 PM
Did you even read the post you just quoted?

  I have.  Perhaps you should reread what you wrote as if you didn't write it. 

You keep defending this post as if you said nothing inflammatory, and I don't know why. 
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Skuzzy on November 09, 2015, 12:55:14 PM
Just a side note.  The CM team DOES rule this forum as it is with all the Special Event forums.  If you have a problem with a CM, contact the lead CM.  If his/her answer is not to your liking, then contact me about it.

Just FYI.
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Drano on November 09, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
  I have.  Perhaps you should reread what you wrote as if you didn't write it. 

You keep defending this post as if you said nothing inflammatory, and I don't know why.
Tell ya what. I'll play along. I'll break that entire post down sentence by sentence if you like but you know there's an awful lot of what anybody else might call constructive criticism. There's nothing personal. Nothing untrue. Actually a lot of praise passed around to a lot of folks including him!

Save me the time and requote what you think is the most inflammatory part and I'll be glad to straighten you right out on it.

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Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: Squire on November 10, 2015, 12:12:03 AM
Ok fellas it was a glitch in the score tally and its been fixed. Perfectly reasonable to bring it up...anyways lets move on.

It was FUN yes?  :D

Cyas Friday.  :cheers:
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: USCH on November 14, 2015, 11:32:18 PM
All hail Makayla!   :aok  :)
I try :-)
Title: Re: D-DAY + 7 Frame 1 Score
Post by: captain1ma on November 19, 2015, 07:05:42 PM
geez drano, maybe you should join the CM team. I'm sure you could do a much better job. being a CM is hard enough, without getting beat up by general population. give it a try, they could always use some new blood.