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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: KaK3 on October 25, 2001, 03:29:00 PM
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I have gotten support for the idea of everyone gettng 5 or even 3 free perk rides/month. THis will enable everyone to enjoy usage of perk rides in MA, meaning, the newbies, or part time players who fly infrequently and would need months to get the points for a 262 or chog. PLease dont respond that this will have an arena with all 262's. MOst of them will be destroyed with the first usage. New players and lesser skilled players will not effect the arena in a chog or 262 and they wont have them the whole month as they will lose them fast. The benefits are you will see missions with perk rides, more incentive to fly together and everyone will be able to at least fly choice rides once a month. I would like to at least see this done one month on trial basis.
I hesitated to post this, as the last time i posted something the response from those against it were personal and insulting with no respect or courtesy. Others have received the same response be a select rude few that keeps usage of this board lower than what could be.
<S> To All, KaK3
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Good idea. Five Uber planes a month for everyone, but dump the perks.
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You mean this topics where you came out slinging "it" from the hip?
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008057 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008057)
Anyway, as for your idea here? Presented much better :) I'm personally all for it. I don't need em but I know it would be nice for others who do or would like to for them to have them.
Westy
[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]
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I think this is a good idea. I also would like to be able to "give" some perk points to a squaddie in order to fly a "perk mission" from time to time.
<edit> 3 free rides is lots<edit>
[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: skernsk ]
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This isn't a new idea ;) But I still like it. 3 a month is plenty. It would probably be better to just give everyone a certain amount of points a month...say 100 and they can use them how they wish. Give everyone 3 rides and you'll never see a Tempest or 152 again.
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i say no. i like the perk system . it encourages diversity. oftentimes i will feel like taking up a 109g10, but i will take a g6 since i earn perks/time much faster in it.
want perks? fly less used planes and get kills. cant earn perks cuz you spend all your time in a n1k or a spit? too bad. assuming the same kills per time you will earn perks 16 times faster in a c.205 than in a n1k so consider that.
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I would support up to 2 or 3 free perk tickets per month but with the follwing restrictions.
1. You only fly 1 sortie per free perk ticket. This means once you land thats it, no reupping or refueling without incuring the full perk cost.
2. The perk tickets expire every month. No stocking up month after month. If you wanna fly perks all time go earn them.
3. Only 1 free perk flight per week.
4. No perk points earned at all on free ticket rides.
Or HTC could just make a free perk day once a while. This would also be an excellent solution to this legit unfair issue.
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Perks should be earned, plain and simple. Otherwise its a welfare program.
NO FREE PERKS!
Olgzr
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Anyone with more than 50-100 perk points should not be allowed a "free" perk plane.
-SW
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nah
just give everyone who has less than 200 perk points in fighter category additional perk points to bring their total up to 200 in the fighter category at the beggining of each tour.
those who have 200 perk points get none.
so then the newbie has 1 262 to fly or if they choose they have enough to loose several chogs or ta152s, or a few f4u4s, or a couple temps
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p.s.
I have lost 3000 perk points flying the me262 (well flying it poorly) so I am not too worried about new people loosing these perk points each month to various reasons
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no free lunch earn umm and lose umm like the rest of us
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I think 5 is too many.............. (1000 points! or 50 points?)
1 free ride in each perked plane would be more like it.
Chog is hardly perked its points are so low.
(no I aint saying raise them)
ability to gift perks would be cool
Tilt
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I like the idea but I would rather it be a free day where no perks are earned if you ride in the perk. Being one of the types who is not able to fly 60-100+ hours a month like some of our community members it is tough to get up there. But then I don't want to fly that much as it means I have no life.... :D
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I Think Fester said it best - top up each account at the begining of each tour to a minimum of 200 Perkies.
After all, elementary school's free....
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200/5 = 25
That equals 25 chances for newbies to up in the CHog before the tours over remember the chog problem a while back? I think the 200 perk thingie should not cover the Chog due to how low it is perked. As a matter of fact I would rather have no free rides or no free perk givings. If you want a 262 earn it. Take up a 109G2/G6 or a 205. Not a spit and you'll have your 262 shortly. Hell i once flew the 109G6 and other planes with a ENY value over 30 and targeted spits La7s and Nikis exclusivly and got over 100 perkies in 2 days.
As Wotan said, earn and loose like the rest of us (thinks back about when i hit a tree in a 262)
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You all do of course remember that the entire point to perking planes is to keep them rare and only so a handful of pilots would fly them at any one time?
You don't have to be some kind of super uber pilot, I got something like 700perk points in the 190A5-- if you got problems getting perk points to get a plane, it's time to crawl out of those overly used ones that you are flying and get into something that will benefit you with a good number of perk points.
Step out of the D9, La7, N1K2, SpitIX, F4U-1D, P51D and get into a plane with something higher than an ENY of 18...
Hell, the La5FN has an ENY of 30- it's just a slower La7, but it will dominate over just about every plane in the arena. THe ones it can't turn with, it can run from.
Explore the other crates for more than 3 flights before you give up and go back to the overly used and least valuable planes.
I've already gotten back 100 perk points in 2 weeks (a total of roughly 10 hours of flying) by using high ENY value planes.
-SW
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I say ern um, no free ride.
Howeaver a free perk plane night every month for everyone might be fun.
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Zigs hillarios..
Half the time hes is adding up his kills from a mission as he flies back to base to see if he can fly the 262 again...
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Originally posted by skernsk:
I think this is a good idea. I also would like to be able to "give" some perk points to a squaddie in order to fly a "perk mission" from time to time.
<edit> 3 free rides is lots<edit>
[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: skernsk ]
Yes skernsk!! Transferrable perk points. :D
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Without the perk system, we'd never see the early war rides as much as we do now.
I have no problems with it.
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I like the 200 perks at start idea.
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Originally posted by Soviet:
[QB]200/5 = 25
lol, who said elementary school was free?
200/5= 40
lowest cost perkie is chog (8)
200/8 = 25
reading, 'riting and 'rithmatic
;)
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Definetly agree with Fester, bump up perkies to 200 ant start of tour and 'gift' perkies would be cool too. Also give new accounts Maybe 200 - 300 perkies to start with. Otherwise earn your ride.
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[ 10-26-2001: Message edited by: Gremlin ]
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One or two free perk plane nights per tour and dump the perk system.
lazs
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nothing for free.
no one is at a disadvantage because they "can't" fly a perk plane.
My squaddie brady got 50 perks in 1 sortie last night no rearm. My personal best was 32. While these represent the extreme I ordinarily can get an average of 8-10 per sortie.
You want free perks? get in a plane with an eny value of 30 and go get kills. There should be no perk "offset" for those who fly planes with a low eny value. One of the good things about perks (as we get more early war planes this will be even more true) is that it should add an incentive to fly a more variety of planes in the main.
Perk planes are supposed to be rare in the main. It makes no sense to have a perk system then to give away perks. While a 262 at 200 perks is a lot well so what. the rest 8-80 are well within the reach of even newbies.
Discos ctds suck maybe there should be some redress but my connections have always been solid so I could care less.
No free lunch
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flying a perk plane is a free lunch.
lazs
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It would be nice to be able to give perks to another player. A group of guys meeting for a mission could ensure everyone's got enough for the ride. Could even double as a wagering mechanism for duels and such.
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what would be cool is if the guy making the mission could use his perks to purchase perk aircraft for the mission.
Also there should be some perk structure related to mission only.
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I'd like a pound of Viagra....
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Originally posted by KaK3:
I have gotten support for the idea of everyone gettng 5 or even 3 free perk rides/month. THis will enable everyone to enjoy usage of perk rides in MA, meaning, the newbies, or part time players who fly infrequently and would need months to get the points for a 262 or chog.
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<S> To All, KaK3
As someone who sees the 262 as a completely destabilizing force
in the arena I would have to say "NO!" to this
proposal. In fact, I would rather see such uber-planes perked at 2X or 3X their current
cost.
I don't care if someone is only gonna get 1 or 2 or 3 a month. If it's EVERYONE that gets
those quantities it's way-to-freaking-many whether they lose them on the first flight or
not.
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Originally posted by Shane:
Originally posted by Soviet:
[QB]200/5 = 25
lol, who said elementary school was free?
200/5= 40
lowest cost perkie is chog (8)
200/8 = 25
reading, 'riting and 'rithmatic
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Lol shane, i meant 200/8, that's what happens when you sit and post messages at 1AM :D
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As has popped up several times in this thread, I like the idea of a free perk ride day maybe once a month. 262 wars every now and then would be a blast.
Regards,
Rogue out
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Keep it as it is. You want 'um? Earn 'um.
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Wotan..Wicked idea!
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Keep a perk system but flush everyone's perks at the end of the tour. I have 2500 perk points which I don't deserve. Give everyone enough perks at the beggining of the next tour to have one of each of the the most expensive perk fighters/vehicles/bombers. Everything else has to be earned. Have every kill streak of 15 double your perks. Lower the cost of perk planes so you can earn a Me-262 ride in say 30 typical fighter missions with a KD of 1.5:1.
But the current perk system needs to be changed, it is very clunky.
ra